: Coilover mounting suggestions
TPIJeep 12-08-2002, 06:03 PM I am working on a 4 link with Coilovers on my CJ-7. Has anybody mounted a coilover within the rear fenderwells of a CJ without cutting thru the top of the fenderwell?
My rollcage rear supports bolt thru the top of the fenderwell at the rear I was thinking I could bolt to the cage mounts to the C/O bracket to give more support without a cross link.
Pictures, suggestions.... lemme have em'.
Thanks
lets see some pics of the 4 link. Nice web site. I am Just starting to try a 4 link on my Cj-7. I am looking for ideas. I Thought I was going to go threw the rear fenders and mount the coilovers to the rool cage also.
TPIJeep 12-09-2002, 07:28 AM I wish a could show you some pics but this is the design phase... wish I was that far along..
still got 4 ugly leaf springs under her now!
keep me in mind when you get it done. Or moving along. Are you going to do front and rear? I just want to do the rear.
Originally posted by TPIJeep
My rollcage rear supports bolt thru the top of the fenderwell at the rear I was thinking I could bolt to the cage mounts to the C/O bracket to give more support without a cross link.
This may be your best bet. If you are wanting to not hack into the tub because of the back seat you may want to think about cutting up underneath the seat while still having it. Kepp in mind, high tech shocks allow lots of options. If they are mounted like this / \ (back view), you can adjust the valving (make it heavier) so that you retain the bitch'in ride these shocks can give. The same goes for the springs. You just have compersate for angle correction factor.
TPIJeep 12-09-2002, 09:01 AM Due to a small problem the FRAME I cannot mount them at a / \ angle in the rear, even with almost fullwidth axles I risk contact with the frame, the best I can hope for is a | | setup with maybe a 1" wider mount at the axle end.
Now up front due to the size of the knuckle assembly I will have to deal with a \ / setup there to clear the frame. I am waiting on my red star to renew and I will post the picture to describe what I am dealing with.
I want to make damn sure this setup will work before I shell out the coin to buy the parts.
Thanks guys...
4x4extreme 12-09-2002, 09:16 AM I am putting coilovers on my cj-5 and on the rear I am going to cut the frame out because the shocks will hit
TPIJeep 12-09-2002, 09:18 AM The red star has returned.. here is a little CAD work for ya..
Guess I gotta get this math thing figured out as far as the angles to set the links at. The biggest problem is one post says do it one way and the next says the oppsite....go figure.... I am still in the learning stage of my swap. I would like to do it right the first time for once!
bigdude 12-09-2002, 09:53 AM Originally posted by gna
The biggest problem is one post says do it one way and the next says the oppsite....go figure....
Then find someone who has done it in a rig that works well and talk to them about doing it the same or similar.
I wouldn't build a linked coilover suspension based on what you read on the internet :eek:
Originally posted by bigdude
Then find someone who has done it in a rig that works well and talk to them about doing it the same or similar.
I wouldn't build a linked coilover suspension based on what you read on the internet :eek:
There is good info on the interweb, just most of it here gets fawked up with hearsay and new laws of physics.:D
I do ahve few people local that are going to give me a hand with it,but it is nice to see what is outhere. You just have to read threw the crap and kinda get a feel about who know there shit and who it full of it.
Tuffjarhed 12-09-2002, 12:49 PM We have a dude in our group who just put coilovers i a YJ with TJ 44's-he had to notch the frame to put them in!!!:eek: I have been thinking about doing a coilover set up, but think that if I do it, I will run coilovers or 1/4 elliptic in the rear with leaves or 3/4 elliptic up front. My only reason being that there are 2 TJ's, 2 XJ's, and 1 ZJ in my group with coils and longarms, and the ride of a fully coiled rig feels too funkie for me. I like to feel the trail a little bit more. Just me .02
CJ Lagos 12-09-2002, 03:14 PM I highly don't recommend mounting the rear shocks like this: / \.
It just creates too many handling quirks. Been There.
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj/finished/P1010008.JPG
The rear wheel wells in the back are square. I would put a piece of tube from the main hoop back to your rear of the cage, assuming the rear piece is mounted to the frame. Then drop the brackets down through the top of the wheel well.
CJ
Cj Lagos lets see some others pics. of that there Jeep............
4Bangler 12-09-2002, 03:37 PM Ha...I don't think "THAT" Jeep exists anymore, well, maybe some bits and pieces, but I think the rest is quite different from that picture.
CJ Lagos 12-09-2002, 07:05 PM Originally posted by 4Bangler
Ha...I don't think "THAT" Jeep exists anymore, well, maybe some bits and pieces, but I think the rest is quite different from that picture.
Sad to say but true. It is cooler now though :)
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org
Originally posted by CJ Lagos
I highly don't recommend mounting the rear shocks like this: / \.
CJ
Got the time to elaborate?
Originally posted by CJ Lagos
I highly don't recommend mounting the rear shocks like this: / \.
It just creates too many handling quirks. Been There.
CJ
hmmm...mine are mounted like that / \ and they seem to work fine...of course I only have 14,000 miles on the rig in that set-up, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about...
if your having handling quirks it's most likely your link goemetry
Originally posted by 333J
hmmm...mine are mounted like that / \ and they seem to work fine...of course I only have 14,000 miles on the rig in that set-up, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about...
if your having handling quirks it's most likely your link goemetry
CJ generally has some good input on link crap so I am interested to hear what his thoughts are on that. All I can think of are valving and spring rate issues, but that is dependent on how extreme the mounting angle is.
:confused:
Supergper 12-11-2002, 03:29 PM Originally posted by LAME
Got the time to elaborate?
The only time I have seen this setup being a problem is if the tops were too close together and it couldn't control body roll...the Factory Tubular comp rig is a prime example of this(unless they have changed it for the new season)
bizlax 12-11-2002, 03:42 PM Maybe this will help...
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/elliots-tj/75.jpg
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/elliots-tj/76.jpg
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/elliots-tj/77.jpg
http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/elliots-tj/rockcrawler3_001.jpg
TPIJeep 12-11-2002, 05:28 PM Thanks bizlax, sorta what I am looking for.
But some pictures of a stock frame, stock body Jeep with coilovers would help a bit more..
Thanks
bizlax 12-11-2002, 05:29 PM I'll keep my eyes open for ya...
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