: How to search for Humvees???
406 YJ 09-29-2011, 08:51 PM Humvee owners. What are the best websites to look for H1's for sale (used) ? Every google search I pull up has me looking at GM hummers.
Not looking for one of these.
http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae9/ConnieBhoo/Cars/hummer_de06.jpg
Would like to find a site that lots of people list H1's like this for sale.....
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss218/equal-life/humvee.jpg
speedy 09-29-2011, 09:28 PM ebay!!
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=H1&_sacat=6001&_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&_odkw=&_osacat=6001&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313
Make sure you brush up on the differences between a Humvee, a Hummer and an H1.
ron b 09-29-2011, 10:23 PM brush up on what to look for here:
http://www.lynchhummer.com/Changes/h1.changes/h1changes.index.html
and here:
http://flashoffroad.com/humdefault.htm
you can ask questions and do more research here:
http://www.hummernetworkforums.com/
HummerNewbie 09-30-2011, 01:44 PM Make sure you brush up on the differences between a Humvee, a Hummer and an H1.
You beat me too it :laughing:
Ron has provided some good links though.
backcountryislife 09-30-2011, 05:28 PM http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae9/ConnieBhoo/Cars/hummer_de06.jpg
You got any details on that build??? That's EXACTLY what I was hoping to do with mine!!!:shaking::shaking::shaking:
406 YJ 10-02-2011, 08:48 PM :laughing:That's funny
I do not. I posted up pictures that I found in a quick photobucket search. If I were not a country boy who has to have something 4wd to make it to my place when it snows or rains too much I mihgt have some kind of a rig on bags just for the hell of it. But I don't have the time to wash a car all day every day so I stick to the stuff that I can get all dirty and not have to think twice about it.
You got any details on that build??? That's EXACTLY what I was hoping to do with mine!!!:shaking::shaking::shaking:
Munchies 10-08-2011, 09:26 AM You can get a hmmwv for about 20-28K... Steelsoldiers is one. Check the hmmwv forum, lots of info on who has em for sale
ron b 10-09-2011, 01:27 PM or forget the humvee and get something you can register for a little bit more.
http://www.bluehummer.com/1994hmc4.html
Esqueci 10-09-2011, 01:43 PM There are a couple of sites around for finding M998's and H1's. I was looking at the following while working in Iraq last year and dreaming about how to spend my money. I ended up staying with my H3 but here are some that I found, they may or may not be still any good as businesses and inventory come and go.
http://www.affluentauto.com/live/template.php?page=available_autos
http://www.xhumvee.com/
http://www.hummermarketplace.com/viewforum.php?f=55
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_mvg_private.php3
406 YJ 10-09-2011, 02:51 PM or forget the humvee and get something you can register for a little bit more.
http://www.bluehummer.com/1994hmc4.html
Ya.... that's more what I am looking for. Not a show queen. Something I can hammer on.
406 YJ 10-10-2011, 07:30 PM Keep in mind I am new to this. Did some of them come with rear steer or was that added? I've never seen that before.:smokin:
or forget the humvee and get something you can register for a little bit more.
http://www.bluehummer.com/1994hmc4.html
ron b 10-10-2011, 08:03 PM it's a very cool aftermarket mod -- very few trucks have it. This truck's owner designed the 4wheel steer system it uses. Being that the hummer is 4 wheel independent it's not a complicated mod. This is a very nicely outfitted truck.
Humminnboatin 10-13-2011, 08:33 AM I have seen this truck in action. It was well maintained but its a 94. And 94 sucked. No turbo. Also this truck is usless for highway driving. Its gearing is very low and again NO TURBO. NO TURBO lol. Top speed is like 55mph at best.
HUMVEE.NET is the best place for H1 anything. Check it out
Really in choosing an H1 what are you going to use it for? Are you actually going to use it as a truck and drive it? Or is is going to be specifically a trail toy? Charlie's truck is great for a trail toy. But if you want to run to home depot or go on hunting trips or tow the boat its not good at all.
Really if you want to drive the truck on the road or ever want to go a long distance or live at higher elevations you need a TURBO.
I have a 1998 Turbo HMCO. 1998 is the most sought after year.
406 YJ 10-13-2011, 09:38 AM Good info! What makes a 98' better than ones newer than it? What I am looking for would be more for road use. To be able to drive at highway speeds is a must. I am looking for something to use for marketing our products, yet something that could tow an enclosed trailer with product (to take to events). Something the wife and kids can ride in. Sure the I would wheel it but nothing like I do in the u4 car. I would like to thank you guys for your feedback as I have already learned a lot from you.
I have seen this truck in action. It was well maintained but its a 94. And 94 sucked. No turbo. Also this truck is usless for highway driving. Its gearing is very low and again NO TURBO. NO TURBO lol. Top speed is like 55mph at best.
HUMVEE.NET is the best place for H1 anything. Check it out
Really in choosing an H1 what are you going to use it for? Are you actually going to use it as a truck and drive it? Or is is going to be specifically a trail toy? Charlie's truck is great for a trail toy. But if you want to run to home depot or go on hunting trips or tow the boat its not good at all.
Really if you want to drive the truck on the road or ever want to go a long distance or live at higher elevations you need a TURBO.
I have a 1998 Turbo HMCO. 1998 is the most sought after year.
BigKofJustice 10-13-2011, 11:14 AM I wouldn't dismiss the non-turbo trucks, there's advantages to both setups.
With the Turbo you move into more complicated electronics, failure prone PMD's and depending on the model year, the #8 cylinder crack which will force you to buy a new engine.
The non turbo trucks are fine, these things aren't corvettes, you'll be stuck at 55/65 depending on the transmission [3 speed turbo or 4L80E], and the acceleration on the turbo diesel isn't that hot on the highway, once you are past 2nd gear there's no guts.
If I had my time back I would have went with a 6.5 NA with the 4L80E, tune that up and put marine injectors on it, and have roll up windows and everything simple and mechanical and easy/cheap to fix. Plus the trucks are usually a little cheaper.
The turbo diesels have better highway manners if that's important but it's nothing like a modern diesel pickup, that's why you see a bunch of owners swap out the 6.5 TD with a Cummins or Duramax swap.
I go wheeling with a guy who sold his 2006 Alpha and picked up 2 older H1's to go wheeling with. A 1992 stock truck will perform the same off road as a 2006 Alpha although you'll have to BTM vs using the Alphas lockers.
For non turbo trucks I'd look at any truck that has the 4 speeed trans, and the 6.5 ideally. For turbo trucks the 1998 model years are popular due to it being the last year offered before they added ABS brakes and the horrible TT4 traction control system.
It all depends on your planned vehicle usage.
406 YJ 10-13-2011, 12:02 PM Any guess at what year this one would be? I like the lines of this one, it's clean looking yet simple. I took this picture off of a photobucket search so there wasn't any info with it. The wheels are all kinds of :rainbow: but that would be an easy fix.
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss218/equal-life/humvee.jpg
BigKofJustice 10-13-2011, 02:01 PM That's a 1997 or 1998 turbodiesel truck [it has the badges and the side air intake scoop that was introduced in 1997] it has the shitty one piece steel wheels with the runflats [these were so bad AM General dumped them later and went back with the military 12 bolt steels and introduced alloy wheels shortly after that].
However,
That body style is the HMC4, which as mostly offered from 1992 to 2000/2001 before it was discontinued. [The majority of H1's were either the wagon configuration or soft top, with the 4 door hard tops and 2 door pickup models being the rare variants].
The only thing I'd really look out for with a HMC4 is checking for rust around the C-pillar areas on the interior and exterior, these are prone to rusting.
HMMWV's and H1's use aircraft aluminum for the bodywork. The doors are steel and the hard roof models are steel and have a poor paint application from the factory, sometimes the gaskets wear and you'll get dis-similar metal contact and rust.
Here's a deal with all the H1 model year info laid out on a page, you can poke through this and look at model year changes and what models were produced in what year.
http://www.lynchhummer.com/changes/h1.changes/h1changes.index.html
intheclouds1977 10-13-2011, 02:11 PM Search for M998 and HMMWV to find goverment Hummers.
Check the government auctions at DRMO:
www.Govliquidation.com
ron b 10-14-2011, 11:50 AM as Kurt mentioned, don't dismiss the NA 6.5. Much simpler set-up and very common reliable engine. Mike Sabarese (a name you will want to know if you get one -- master AMG tech here in So Cal) once told me that the VAST majority of hummers that are flat-bedded into his shop are having some computer/electronic related issue.
These trucks aren't meant for speed. If they were they's be shaped and geared differently. When I see hummers on the freeway going 80 mph it makes me cringe...and stay away! I really don't get why anyone would buy one of these trucks and not wheel it as much as possible. It is good on the road...at/below the speed limit -- I know several who use one as their daily driver. That being said, think of it as a hand built exotic car with a limited production run.
406 YJ 10-14-2011, 04:49 PM This is all great info. I am a little let down. After reading over the amout of them made it adds up now. As to why I couldn't find that many for sale. I'd guess they made more Geo Metro's in their worse year then H1's were made in their prime. That part is a let down. I had hopes there were more of them out there which would give on a chance to have more to pick from. I am also let down to hear that they do not do well at highway speeds. They score a 100 on the cool factor. I thought what better than to find something that I could use for a marketing tool for my business yet be able to pull my buggy and get a small trailer to take to events that are not far away when I do not feel like taking the freightliner and monster trailer. I guess I will need to do more research to see if it is a fit and if it is what year would be the best fit for my program. I can tell you this much. If I had the coin back in 2006 to buy 100 of them I should have. The KBB on the 2006's is higher than what they sold for. Where does that happen with any car, the value goes up? It is a catch 22. The newer ones are much more fam. friendly inside. They are set up more like a car, have the better motor and the extra gear in the trans. But who can buy one of those just to have as a toy at that price? The older ones while more simple are just that, older and I am not sure I would trust throwing my fam. in one and driving 800 miles to go wheel somewhere cool. I now have more to think about than ever. I want to thank everyone for their time. I will own one, I am now thinking it might be later than sooner as my hopes of them doing better on the highway have been shot :(
ron b 10-14-2011, 05:07 PM find some local owners and drive their trucks. They are fine on the hwy as I said. As far as the Alpha being more car like in the interior...the '04 has the same int, and it's really not too different from the older interiors (just a little updating). Many prefer the older seats for example. You just need to drive/ride in a few different trucks to see what you like best and if the truck's for you.
As far as an older truck being less reliable than a newer one...maybe a little (like any vehicle) but if it is properly maintained there will be few if any issues (again, like any vehicle).
redpitbull44 10-14-2011, 05:13 PM There IS another option...
http://www.4x4bodies.com/
and then use AIM portals on a KP D60 and whatever rear axle you want.
ron b 10-15-2011, 08:05 AM If it's only the body "style" (lack thereof really) he's interested in then by all means. I think he wants the real deal. If hummers really were $100k then I can see why people would do this, but now that nice trucks are below $40k, and you can still find decent ones at/below $30k I really don't see the point of a knock-off.
redpitbull44 10-15-2011, 12:16 PM If it's only the body "style" (lack thereof really) he's interested in then by all means. I think he wants the real deal. If hummers really were $100k then I can see why people would do this, but now that nice trucks are below $40k, and you can still find decent ones at/below $30k I really don't see the point of a knock-off.
Yeah. If I were gonna spend money on one, I'd want an H1 Alpha.
So, for someone that already has a cummins/Allison pkg looking for a home, is it realistic to think one might find a "good deal" on a non running unit that can actually be registered?
laproscopic 11-10-2011, 10:28 AM i love mine. 93 hmmwv. motor in a 6.2 non turbo. plenty of power in this light truck. acceleration is fine. the 3 speed is the limitation. i can cruise the hwy at 60mph for hours (i do) but a 4th gear would let me cruise at 70
ron b 11-13-2011, 07:10 AM i love mine. 93 hmmwv. motor in a 6.2 non turbo. plenty of power in this light truck. acceleration is fine. the 3 speed is the limitation. i can cruise the hwy at 60mph for hours (i do) but a 4th gear would let me cruise at 70
I love the early year hummers and all humvees. That truck of yours will go forever! Little to no electronics/computers to strand you!
Someday I will grow a pair and pull all that shiite out of mine.
Soup Man 12-02-2011, 09:55 PM Well, being the looker for 3 years for an H1, I have some advice.
Stay away from anything in the south east for sale. I am not sure why, but I always found the ones for sale int he 25-55,000$ range were garbage. They were all 6.5 T and everyone of the ones I looked at were as close to stock as possible.
They were the ones owned by the guys that thought they had money, but forgot to spend some to maintain them. They had weird rust issues and some had electrical issues that I could never figure out. Maybe its a bermuda triangle thing, but I looked at 8 or 9 of them, paid to have them looked over and found the same quirks. again, maybe just me.
The ones for sale in Cali were a bit better, some had the proverbial door electrical issues, windows and locks and some dash bezzel lighting issues. All of them had the heater issue, what ever the hell caused that.
Most of the wagons I looked at had rust past the point of buffing out starting under the rear doors, most of the hood hinges were either so squeaky it hurt your ears, or they were lose from shit tons of rust and lots of WD 40.
They had shitty motors and trannies and really after looking at a solid 15 over the last few years, it was actually cheaper to get one with a blown motor/tranny and buy a re-man Dmax/allison and make it work. The cummins has been beat to death in them and is a pretty easy swap, you need to clear the rad and firewall, but it's really not that hard as long as you can get the body off. D max and allison looked to be the same, mostly...
Newer engine swaps are not for the lighthearted, but neither is a pile of crap 6.5T.
You can put pretty nice seats in, stereos and a paint job. But if the motor and tranny are a pile of discarded parts from old trucks, then whats the point.
Kinda like the fight of a carbed 350 swap in a jeep VS and LS. Why would you go with old, dilapidated crap.
Good luck, thats all I can say. Hope you have thick skin.
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