I am in the market for a new powertank. The cheapest price I have found for a PT10 is $255.00 with free shipping. Has anyone got theirs cheaper than that? If so, where?

Thanks in advance,

Matt

Try your welding supply for this item!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: It may not be a power tank, but it will work. :flipoff2:

Matt,

225.00 is cheap. Where did you find that ?

thanks,

tony k

I got that price from http://www.adventurous4x4.com/. It is not on their website but if you call and ask that is what they want. They will beat the lowest price on anything so I am looking for a cheaper place so that I can get them to beat it. Their # is 301-791-6869 if you want one too.

Matt

i doubt you'll find it cheaper anywhere , if they beat that price they wont be in business long

good luck

Just buy a Co2 tank off of E-bay and a regulator from a welding shop or Home brew shop . It will run you less than a 100.


just a few of over a 100
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1923658861
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1977811726
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1924231621

so just use any co2 tank? i found a 5lb deal to run my arb for 30 bucks on e bay. should i get it?

Drew

Originally posted by Pavement Pounder83
so just use any co2 tank?

Drew

Thats all a power tank is!

nice well it looks like i am goin to pic up the one on e bay :D

Drew

I've used the home made and the Power Tanks and here is what I found.

The home made unit works best if you get the pre set valve. And get about 100 lbs max. I got the 150 and it freezes the valve all the time.

The tank for Harris or any welding shop is easy to swap vs. dropping off your black or polished tank to get it filled.

The regulator that Power Tanks offers when you buy it in the kit with the hose and everything is still the best value. It just works better and does not ice up like all the other valves I tried.

The bracket kicks ass. That part is a must.

tony k

Here you go, the best price around...

I have the 20 gallon and really like it, have purchased the 10 gallon for raffle prizes, great size.

Regulators: $15.25 *** 150 lbs. will be standard ***
10# Aluminum tank: $73 *** BRAND NEW TANK with handle ***
20# Aluminum tank: $91 *** BRAND NEW TANK with handle ***
Shipping is $15 for a 10# tank and regulator, and $21 for a 20# tank and regulator.
So, you can get a NEW 10# aluminum tank and regulator for $88.25 + $15 for
shipping = $103.25. And those of you that want 20# tanks, your price is
$106.25 + $21 for shipping = $127.25. Not too shabby.

The regulators are 150 PSI Hi Flow CO2 regulators (will not freeze) and have permanent O ring.

Cramer/Decker industries, 1.800.752.4579
or e-mail Paul Cramer at paulcramer@cramerdecker.com
Mention TLCA pricing.

I went here for the truck mounting bracket...
http://www.lhrservices.com/fire_fig...er_brackets.htm

Thanks to Jody Potter for finding.


this is not mine, i got it from someone on the board. speak up and you shall be acknowledge.

Hey mobil1syn...

are those 150 psi regulators good for not freezing you stems?
I am going to use the tank for tires only. I have read where the home brew systems can freeze stems, just checkin...thanks

Karl
TLCA 3215

Use adive tank. They hold 80 cu. ft @ 3000 psi. Dont use CO2, use compressed air. Anyone here play paintball ? Doesnt take long for CO2 to freeze stuff, and a dive tank holds a shitload of air, more than a powertank, look at the specs. :D

Originally posted by Titanium
Use adive tank. They hold 80 cu. ft @ 3000 psi. Dont use CO2, use compressed air. Anyone here play paintball ? Doesnt take long for CO2 to freeze stuff, and a dive tank holds a shitload of air, more than a powertank, look at the specs. :D

What is the PSI on a CO2 tank? 3000PSI That sounds like a bomb!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by KMAN
Hey mobil1syn...

are those 150 psi regulators good for not freezing you stems?
I am going to use the tank for tires only. I have read where the home brew systems can freeze stems, just checkin...thanks

Karl
TLCA 3215

Between my buddies and i we have 4 home brew set ups and have never had a problem freezing the stems.We use ours for tires only too.I run 38s and have filled mine and my buddies 37 one after the other with no prob;)

Originally posted by bigjeepinYJ


What is the PSI on a CO2 tank? 3000PSI That sounds like a bomb!:flipoff2:

I believe the powertank is 2600 psi but smaller than 80 cu. ft. Its only compressed air, no worse than a powertank so whats the diff ?

Originally posted by bigjeepinYJ


What is the PSI on a CO2 tank? 3000PSI That sounds like a bomb!:flipoff2:

The max pressure of a CO2 tank is 3000 PSI this is what they are tested at.Co2 turns liquid at around 800 PSI When you buy CO2 you buy by the # not by the PSI The pressure of a full tank can vary depending on temp.and altitude.This is why you have 5,10,15,and 20 (even larger)Lb tanks.A full tank sits right around 800 psi.

Originally posted by Titanium
Use adive tank. They hold 80 cu. ft @ 3000 psi. Dont use CO2, use compressed air. Anyone here play paintball ? Doesnt take long for CO2 to freeze stuff, and a dive tank holds a shitload of air, more than a powertank, look at the specs. :D

No, no, no.....back to science class.

And a CO2 tank is not a bomb either....

Jay

Originally posted by ROKTOY


No, no, no.....back to science class.

And a CO2 tank is not a bomb either....

Jay

Just a Joke guys..... You dont use CO2 for your camp grill?

Originally posted by TONY K
The bracket kicks ass. That part is a must.

tony k

Unless you mean the rollbar mount (which does look pretty slick..need to figure that out) than the regular vehicle mount bracket is nothing more than a fire extinguisher mount. I bought mine at a local fire extinguisher place for about $20

Originally posted by bigjeepinYJ


Just a Joke guys..... You dont use CO2 for your camp grill?

Hmmmmm.....now let's see..... :D :D

Jay

I picked up an old SCBA tank for almost nothing. I had it pressure tested (hydro test) for like 8 bucks, at a fire extinguisher place. while there I picked up a used CO2 fire extinguisher tank for 10 dollars and had it filled for 4 dollars.

So I now have both a compressed air tank and a Co2 tank for 22.00 bucks.

I have my SCBA tank filled at te local fire station for free. They fill to 2200 pounds.

I use a lower psi regulator without any problems. I fill my tires with the regulator set to around 50-60psi if in a hurry, (takes 10min for all four) and 32-35psi if I'm not in a hurry.

I even use a cheapie hose (coiler) with no issues. It did work better with a regular shop hose.

j

Obviously, opinions vary on this one. I use an adjustable high pressure regulator (can get them for about $50 from local fire extinguisher shop- this is all that the Power Tank regulator is) - I run it wide open (unless running good air tools) and can air up a 35" SX from 6psi to 25 psi in less than a minute - have been using it for tires and to run air tools for over a year with no problems freezing tire stems or tools. The reason that you want to use CO2 vs compressed air is that you can carry lots more equilvilent volume by carrying CO2 - you carry it as a liquid and use it as a gas - For instance, a 5 gallon air tank pressurized to 125 psi will fill about two 33" tires from 10 to 20 psi - a 10lb co2 tank will do about 40. I don't know how many tires you could fill with a scuba tank, but don't see how it could come close to co2.

Jackie

I've used both. I SCUBA dive and homebrew so I already had the equipment.

Pros/Cons:

20# CO2
Smaller than the SCUBA tank, cheaper initial cost (tank, regulator), cheaper and easier to maintain (inspections, tests, etc)
You can swap at just about any welding supply... Moab Utah for instance... don't think they have a SCUBA shop... get it? Regulators are easier to adapt to air tool fittings etc.
Tend to freeze up sometimes... never had mine completely freeze up... but does slow down the flow some.

SCUBA
Dive shops require certification cards to purchase, fill, maintain etc. I believe a 20# co2 tank will give you more volume than the SCUBA. Must have inspected annually (visual) by a dive shop to keep in spec and have it filled. Regs and tanks are more expensive and less durable... not intended for the dusty dirty conditions of offroad. Not every location has SCUBA facilities. Regulators have have multiple ports at different pressure settings and will need to be adapted to run standard air tool fittings. (not too big a deal)

I have a dual guage setup for CO2 on my beer but it's kinda fragile as are those power tank doo-dads... I used a company out of CA called SEAL's Compressed Gas... they make the oring screw on fixed pressure non-guage regulators to your specifications... $35 or so??? can't rember.

As for bombs... both are designed to withstand extremely high impact... there's alot more on the Jeep that might potentially harm me before the tank... go figure.

Originally posted by KMAN
Hey mobil1syn...

are those 150 psi regulators good for not freezing you stems?
I am going to use the tank for tires only. I have read where the home brew systems can freeze stems, just checkin...thanks

Karl
TLCA 3215

i havent had the cash to get a setup yet. like i said earlier that was info someone posted in reference to a homebrew co2 system due to the cost of a powertank. so i dont know.

my previously posted info came from TRT2 at post http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84702

The Ptank regulator is a good deal, all in all. It's made to flow @8CFM all day long without freezing. You can get the regulators remanned directly from Advanced Air for cheap but you have to call, it's not on the website.

And his cust service is second to none.

Bryan

I picked up a new 20lb tank for free so I spent my "tank money" on an adjustable reg (0-300psi) from http://www.trail-air.com (site down right now) for $90 and a 30ft coil hose with pigtails and fittings (150psi working) for $30.

I have used it at 145psi to air up 6 35" tires from 12psi to 28psi and while the hose and reg started to freeze, I never noticed any flow issues.

http://www.pavementsucks.com/miscimages/co2tank1.jpg

Check with your local Coca-Cola or Pepsi distributor. You can usually get one from them pretty cheap and they're aluminum. It might help if you know someone. :D

As for bombs... both are designed to withstand extremely high impact...

Oh my god, that is SOOOOO wrong and down-right dangerous!

A SCBA tank IS NOT in any way designed for high impact, and when filled with 2000psi or more of compressed air it is extremely dangerous, and should always be treated with the utmost respect.

I have been a certified Rescue Diver and SCUBA instructor for 20 years, and I have seen firsthand the damage when a SCUBA tank fell over and knocked the valve off. It shot through a cinderblock wall, across a street, and imbeded itself in a tree :eek: :eek:

Christ - we used to hammer on our students if we ever used to see them leave a tank standing up unattended!

I'm sorry - but if you want to strap one into your rig and go offroading, I think that is stupid and dangerous - and you would too if you understood them.

Not to mention - the liquid CO2 contains way more "energy" per tank, as well as the Compresssed air being more dangerous, expensive, difficult to fill, etc.

Please do not use a high pressure SCBA tank in your trail rig.

Look around first for good deals and make your own. I have made 2 of them myself. I have a 20 lb luxfer aluminum tank with adjustable regulator and 25' coil hose with quick disconnect fittings and a heavy duty bracket. This setup cost me about $70 for everything I needed. Recently I made a 5lb tank. I got the aluminum luxfer tank and a regulator from an estate sale for $10 for both. I had to have it hydroed and filled for about $25. The hose I had and I bought some more quick disconnects. Have about $45 in the 5lb tank setup.

I say chuck it and go OBA.

Costs less and no hassles refilling, inspecting, etc.

I'd go for a 15#+ tank if you fill up big meats. My buddy has a 5lb tank and it runs out really quick. I've been happy with my 15lb'er....but when I have time to do a york then I'm scrappin' my tank. Getting the tank filled can be a PITA (sometimes).

Originally posted by Mike_Lib
but when I have time to do a york then I'm scrappin' my tank. Getting the tank filled can be a PITA (sometimes).

There's no reason not to have both, they both have their plusses and minusses.

Bryan

Filling a tank is a pain?
Just drop it off and pick it up the next day or trade it for another....real tuff stuff :(
A CO2 tank will discharge at around 800psi with no regulator. Sorta like a fire extinguisher.
Here's a link to my home brew tank.
My tank (http://www.trailhed.com/powercylinder.htm)

Originally posted by Oxjockey


There's no reason not to have both, they both have their plusses and minusses.

Bryan

Agreed.

Originally posted by jeeplvr
Filling a tank is a pain?
Just drop it off and pick it up the next day or trade it for another....real tuff stuff :(

If I was a normal person then it wouldn't be a pain :flipoff2:

1) I bought a :rainbow: fancy powertank and I haven't found anyone that will fill it on the spot. I could just trade it in for a regular dull tank....but I'm kind of latching on to my shiny one :flipoff2:

2) I store my Jeep in Utah and fly in to town to go to Moab (don't ask but it's cheaper that way). I typically fly in on a Friday night and leave on a Sunday night. There's not a whole lot of places open on a Friday night to fill tanks :flipoff2:

Again...for a few of us it can be a PITA to fill it (sometimes) :D

Originally posted by BillaVista


Oh my god, that is SOOOOO wrong and down-right dangerous!

A SCBA tank IS NOT in any way designed for high impact, and when filled with 2000psi or more of compressed air it is extremely dangerous, and should always be treated with the utmost respect.

I have been a certified Rescue Diver and SCUBA instructor for 20 years, and I have seen firsthand the damage when a SCUBA tank fell over and knocked the valve off. It shot through a cinderblock wall, across a street, and imbeded itself in a tree :eek: :eek:

Christ - we used to hammer on our students if we ever used to see them leave a tank standing up unattended!

I'm sorry - but if you want to strap one into your rig and go offroading, I think that is stupid and dangerous - and you would too if you understood them.



During my commercial diving training instructor's with 40+ experience in diving threw cilinders down from the bridge on deck wich was about 2 metres down.
I'm not saying this is safe practise at all but, but a scuba cilinder is pretty damn strong and if the reg breaks off just because the tank fell over, it either was a manufacturing flaw or it was an old piece of untested/unchecked shit!

Originally posted by Mike_Lib
1) I bought a :rainbow: fancy powertank and I haven't found anyone that will fill it on the spot. I could just trade it in for a regular dull tank....but I'm kind of latching on to my shiny one :flipoff2:

My place fills it on the spot, don't forget the beer folks have CO2 cannisters that they use the same way so ask around. Oddly, I get a different price everytime. :D

Bryan

During my commercial diving training instructor's with 40+ experience in diving threw cilinders down from the bridge on deck wich was about 2 metres down.

Stupid and dangerous. See "Darwin Awards" for more examples.

I have a system that I bought from http://www.bigairsystems.com. If you want a great CO2 system that isn't as expensive as a powertank and has great standard features without building your own, this is the setup to purchase. The 10 lb kit (which I have) was $225, with free shipping (I got the kit in 5 days, but the company is in the EAST .. so if you are in the west, shipping would be longer, I guess.)

If you want to build your own, you can buy the 150 PSI regulator from them OR the regulator hose/inflator kit very inexpensively.

I am not sure what I'd do without my kit. Airs tires VERY quickly, runs power tools, including an impact wrench to remove/replace lug nuts ... I even cleared out my girlfriend's window washers with the system and aired up my snow blower tires.

CO2 kicks A$$.

They're not hard to fill:
connect hose to big tank from welder
Turn big tank upside down
Open valves
shut valves when scale says you're full.

Kinks in the plan:
Big tank from welder, you'll need to have one
Hose, you'll need to have this too. I'm not sure where to get all the fittings but it's not rocket science. Obviously it needs to be able to stand up do some serious pressure so we're talking braided line or stronger. Mine came from my dad, hope I don't have to replace it.

Having a pressure difference helps, like putting the big tank in the sun or some other way to warm it. Or this time of year it works good to leave the small tank outside in the butt cold air while the big tank is inside where it's kind of warm.

Originally posted by Kasper
I am in the market for a new powertank. The cheapest price I have found for a PT10 is $255.00 with free shipping. Has anyone got theirs cheaper than that? If so, where?

Thanks in advance,

Matt


http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/983000-obair.jpg

thats what i did.