This is from last Saturday. It is on the small butte just east of Randy's Turn Track.

If anyone knows George, Renae, Shelbe, JoJo, Peewee, Dan, Cathy, or D.H.S., please tell them to come get their F*&^#@! trash out of our desert! :mad3:

It is not cute. It is not funny. It is an eyesore. Someone else is going to have to work very hard to remove it...

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Why didn't u take it??? If u see it and leave it ur just as bad as the people that left it there in the 1st place. If no one has picked up by thanksgiving ill dispose of it

Why didn't u take it??? If u see it and leave it ur just as bad as the people that left it there in the 1st place. If no one has picked up by thanksgiving ill dispose of it

WHAT? You can't be serious.

I pick up A LOT of trash every time I go out. This is a little larger and heavier than a beer can or an old tire. At the time I had an old sleeping bag half filled with trash in the back of the 4Runner. I just didn't have room for a BOAT. :shaking: I was by myself, in my 4Runner, on a day trip.

If you pick it up over Thanksgiving, thank you, and I guess you are a better person than me...

From what I saw in the pics there were other people on the lake bed if u asked them I'm sure they would have been more then happy to help u get it off the lakebed, if not you could of atleast hooked up a strap and towed it to the road and called hwy patrol and they would have had it picked up

From what I saw in the pics there were other people on the lake bed if u asked them I'm sure they would have been more then happy to help u get it off the lakebed

I did not think of that... probably because it would have been WAY too much to ask of someone I do not know.

if not you could of atleast hooked up a strap and towed it to the road and called hwy patrol and they would have had it picked up

So you think it would have been a good idea to drag something that heavy, leaving a huge scar across the desert, to Boone Road, then tear up Boone Road by dragging it all the way to Hwy 247?

That is a really good plan. You are not only a better person than me, but obviously much wiser.

Don't lie Turtle Truck, you dragged it out there for the Hammertown jet boat races in February.

and called hwy patrol and they would have had it picked up

No, they wouldn't have.

Mark, if its not gone when we head out for recon in December, we will get a group and a trailer and I will get a dumptag from BLM so we can get rid of it.

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You would think desert hot springs could dump their junk in palm springs.... I bet the white party white party goers could use a boat to ride the white water.


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:confused:What the hell is so hard about a few gas soaked rags and a match?

:confused:What the hell is so hard about a few gas soaked rags and a match?

That would leave a burn scar that would last a decade or more. Not good.

You would think desert hot springs could dump their junk in palm springs.... I bet the white party white party goers could use a boat to ride the white water.

Yeah, it didn't hit me until after I posted this that D.H.S. is probably Desert Hot Springs, just down the road. There can't be too may people who spell their name "Renae" there. It would be sweet justice if George and Renae got a nice big fine from the BLM.

:confused:What the hell is so hard about a few gas soaked rags and a match?

Painfull:shaking:

When we were down in October a Local driving a red beat to shit Toyota was making his laps dumping trash into a crater and burning it. I tried to talk to the guy but he was always in and out so fast. Once I saw him up semi close I dont think I wanted to talk to him anyways. If you see a crater with a bunch of half burnt crap and a spring matteress that the one. If you see a beat to shit mid 90s toyota hauling ass on Boone, throw a gernade in his front window.

How long is this thing? If its still there in a few weeks and people want to go grab it I can take my trailer out there and im sure we can get it out...... Im right up the road in Apple valley. Then where should we put it? Anyone know?

No, they wouldn't have.

Mark, if its not gone when we head out for recon in December, we will get a group and a trailer and I will get a dumptag from BLM so we can get rid of it.

How long is this thing? If its still there in a few weeks and people want to go grab it I can take my trailer out there and im sure we can get it out...... Im right up the road in Apple valley. Then where should we put it? Anyone know?

I think that if we get it to Boone Road and notify BLM, it will be picked up via the "dumptag" Dave mentions. We have had abandoned cars picked up in a similar manner.

It is not too long. It would fit on any 16' to 20' car hauler trailer.

Cool if its not gone by the end of the month I can come move it with a little help.

Yeah, it didn't hit me until after I posted this that D.H.S. is probably Desert Hot Springs, just down the road. There can't be too may people who spell their name "Renae" there. It would be sweet justice if George and Renae got a nice big fine from the BLM.

There probably isn't anyone named Renae or George..... But there will be 500+ Jorge's and Rosa's with a DHS address. :laughing:

Looks like a big desert wasteland, what harm is some burnt sand/dirt going to do? For that matter what harm is the boat sitting there doing? I think it's kind of funny, boat in the middle of the desert.

That would leave a burn scar that would last a decade or more. Not good.

Looks like a big desert wasteland, what harm is some burnt sand/dirt going to do? For that matter what harm is the boat sitting there doing? I think it's kind of funny, boat in the middle of the desert.
Maybe we should dump a bunch of our shit in your backyard, just a bunch of snow, what's the harm?:flipoff2:

That would leave a burn scar that would last a decade or more. Not good.

Really? Your concerned about a burn scar? I've seen some pretty large "camp" fires down there before with no long lasting enviro effects.

Really? Your concerned about a burn scar? I've seen some pretty large "camp" fires down there before with no long lasting enviro effects.

Yes REALLY. Anyone who thinks that just burning this in place is a good idea just doesn't get the ethic of preserving and protecting our beautiful desert lands.

Several New Year's ago a toy hauler burned on the road north of Means toward Clawhammer. Even though it burned on a road that sees a lot of traffic, you can still see the burn scar today.

I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not. :shaking:

Yes REALLY. Anyone who thinks that just burning this in place is a good idea just doesn't get the ethic of preserving and protecting our beautiful desert lands.

Several New Year's ago a toy hauler burned on the road north of Means toward Clawhammer. Even though it burned on a road that sees a lot of traffic, you can still see the burn scar today.

I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not. :shaking:

I'm concerned with trash. The only burn marks I'm worried about are the fire rings with nails. Luckily it sounds like a few people are planning on removing it

Yes REALLY. Anyone who thinks that just burning this in place is a good idea just doesn't get the ethic of preserving and protecting our beautiful desert lands.

Several New Year's ago a toy hauler burned on the road north of Means toward Clawhammer. Even though it burned on a road that sees a lot of traffic, you can still see the burn scar today.

I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not. :shaking:

That toy hauler was alot more than fiberglass and wood. It was sad to see it burn.

It was still there as of yesterday, Sunday 11-20-11.

I'm concerned with trash. The only burn marks I'm worried about are the fire rings with nails. Luckily it sounds like a few people are planning on removing it

Do you think that there are some screws and/or nails in that boat?

Another reason not to burn it in place is the air pollution from the burning fiberglass and plywood chemicals and glue. No matter if you care about that or not, the California Air Quality Management District (AQMD) does, and so do environmentalists who would love to use something like that as more ammunition to shut down our OHV areas.

Please people, do not give ammunition to our opponents.

No, they wouldn't have.

Mark, if its not gone when we head out for recon in December, we will get a group and a trailer and I will get a dumptag from BLM so we can get rid of it.

Raises hand. For both.:D

"I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not". Says Mark. How about some concern about all the nails from the fire pits.

Just an opinion from across the country...


but why are you people actually spending time yapping about this? Does it really require that much effort for one of you who wants it gone to load it up and drag it out of there? :confused:

I just don't see what the big deal is - just DO IT already :shaking:

"I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not". Says Mark. How about some concern about all the nails from the fire pits.


lol..... i can't count the number of 5 gallon buckets of nails and metal i've seen pulled out of the lakebed over the years.......

to say there's no concern for that would indicate that we don't clean those up or try to abide by the no burning of pallets out there already.

since koh started, there's prolly less nails on the lakebed now than there were 5 years ago....

Just an opinion from across the country...


but why are you people actually spending time yapping about this? Does it really require that much effort for one of you who wants it gone to load it up and drag it out of there? :confused:

I just don't see what the big deal is - just DO IT already :shaking:

well, i personally don't have any place to haul a 20' fiberglass boat.... much less the ability to dispose of it properly.

however, if someone does this weekend, i'll gladly figure out a way to get it on their trailer.

"I am concerned about everything out there. Every piece of trash, every computer monitor that someone brought out, shot up, and left, every careless act. What amazes me is that you are not". Says Mark. How about some concern about all the nails from the fire pits.

How about you wake the fuck up and learn a little reading comprehension. What he said is the truth, he cares about all that shit including the nails, and so do I. Just because idiots burn pallets in camp and leave nails does not mean it's ok, or that we are ok with it. :shaking:

It will be removed, if not this weekend, then in due course.

I have lost interest in defending myself here.

I just hope that the trash is properly disposed of.

It will be removed, if not this weekend, then in due course.

I have lost interest in defending myself here.

I just hope that the trash is properly disposed of.

No defense necessary Mark. You outed some idiots, they know who they are.
Now the people that always clean up the messes will clean this one up too.

Making it public is all that was necessary.

Thanks!!

I will haul my trailer out there and get rid of it properly if I can get people to load it for me (I cant lift anything due to surgery) this week!! PM me if you and some friends are willing to load it.

Let me know what day. There will be enough of us out there from Thursday - Sunday to get it loaded. PM'd you my number.
Ben

Let me know what day. There will be enough of us out there from Thursday - Sunday to get it loaded. PM'd you my number.
Ben
PM sent Thanks for stepping up Ill be there Friday for it

I will call BLM in the morning for a dump tag. Im sorta out of town.

D

PBB at its best! Way to step up!!

Sent from my smartass phone

Full stringer bubble deck, set up for a Jacuzzi WJ12 pump, probably a Southwind/Eliminator/Hallett splash, seen boats way worse condition come back to life. good project for a berkeley intake/set-back pump and about 500 hp...

Daniel
Mash on it

I will call BLM in the morning for a dump tag. Im sorta out of town.

D
Thanks Dave that would be cool if you can get a tag if not I'll just pay the dump fee
Tony

looks like the bow ring is there---- drag it out to the road----- it won't hurt the road anymore than any 'drag' would--- it has a flat bottom and would even help the road !!

but i can think of NO EXCUSE for it being dropped off out there !!!!!:mad3:

BLM has asked that we leave it where its at. They will pick it up next week.

Send the cans in for DNA testing

BLM has asked that we leave it where its at. They will pick it up next week.

Will do Thanks Dave

The boat is gone, as of 0900 Sunday. I have no further info. BLM need not respond.

How about you wake the fuck up and learn a little reading comprehension. What he said is the truth, he cares about all that shit including the nails, and so do I. Just because idiots burn pallets in camp and leave nails does not mean it's ok, or that we are ok with it. :shaking:

I gess what I said sounded like I though Mark dident care about nails. Not so, I want us to care about all the junk. We pulled over 70 pounds of trash out of JV this weekend and hulled home. And yes, the nails from fire pits are way down from the time I ran the first KOH race.

I gess what I said sounded like I though Mark dident care about nails. Not so, I want us to care about all the junk. We pulled over 70 pounds of trash out of JV this weekend and hulled home. And yes, the nails from fire pits are way down from the time I ran the first KOH race.

I moved east several years ago after spending my youth with dirt bikes and 4x4s in the desert. After being gone for twenty years, I was saddened by the condition of what I saw when I returned. I am glad to see you guys taking action.

People using motor vehicles for recreation are often confused with assholes who toss trash like people who love nature are often confused with those extreme liberal views. I think most seasoned off-roaders are responsible and see the value of maintaining our assets.