: OK, here's a few updated pics


DSI
12-19-2002, 12:41 PM
did you REALLY think i was going to post a full body shot?? puhleeeze!

overnight storage between shops :D

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:43 PM
a shot of the clean electrical install done by none other than Crash! why would anyone settle for second rate electrical work, the man is a perfectionist :D

even got it setup to have the scan tool plug, when i find the plug...

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:44 PM
a shot of what we re-used the factory relay's for :D

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:46 PM
the new location of the air temp sensor :D

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:48 PM
the engine harness going into/through the firewall... completly unplug's with just the three plugs :D

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:49 PM
and the gauges just roughly set into the dash, unfortunatly with teh angle the dash follow's the tach has to be turned like that to see under 2500 from the drives seat :(

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:51 PM
and ok... i'll add this pic, just so you don't call me an asshole or anything...




























































like you guy's don't anyhow... :flipoff2:

TTURokToy
12-19-2002, 12:52 PM
What's the big secret? It is no different than every other rockbuggy out there.

BTW, sweet wiring.

DSI
12-19-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by TTURokToy
What's the big secret? It is no different than every other rockbuggy out there.

BTW, sweet wiring.


there's really no secret at all... i just get PM's and thing's asking for update's so i'm just giving lame ones :D

Azrckcrawler
12-19-2002, 01:21 PM
More wiring shots! I am cleaning up my 16v wiring harness right now. I stripped all the wiring for the lights and cruise control out, going to work on the transmission stuff tonight. Looks like I can ditch all the relays except the one for the factory fuel pump. Any other pointers? BTW kick@ss wiring job. I have something to shoot for now :eek:

Amanda G
12-19-2002, 01:29 PM
Good job on not getting your wires crossed brother. :p

When does Sis get to driveeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! :flipoff2:

DemoMike
12-19-2002, 01:30 PM
DSI and AZ, you guys doing your own 16V wiring?

yager
12-19-2002, 01:31 PM
WTF ? I think its great !!! Doing a clean wiring job is not somthing eveyone is capable of. And to reuse stock/existing stuff take patience.... Nice Job...!

I'd rather look at this stuff all day then read ass hole newbie posts about door handles..... Comments like that keep people from sharing when they "DO" actually have somthing cool....

Post away !!!!

-yag

Azrckcrawler
12-19-2002, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by DemoMike
DSI and AZ, you guys doing your own 16V wiring?

I am attempting it. I searched all the big Suzuki boards for info on this (spent 2 days on ORC reading thru posts) and found almost nothing. Seems everyone pays to have the harness modified. There are a few who have done it but nobody has done a write up or how-to. When I get done I'll do a write up on what I did (if it works :D ). Since I just want the motor to run, I believe I need to keep everything that goes into the ECU minus the transmission wires. I'll use my existing harness on my steering column for lights, starter, etc. DSI's setup confirms my plan, looks like he eneded up with a few connectors which go to the motor.

High5
12-19-2002, 02:30 PM
damn i would be tempted to have crash do the wiring going into my rig if he wasn't so far from here. i watched the redo of his rig on the toy board and now yours is equally as sweet!i guess i should just muster up the patience and take my time. there is nothing wrong with my harness now but it is not routed nearly as neatly as his jobs! anyway the whole buggy is looking sweet!

Originally posted by DSI
and the gauges just roughly set into the dash, unfortunatly with teh angle the dash follow's the tach has to be turned like that to see under 2500 from the drives seat :(

i know what you mean. i run auto meter guages and the bezels are deep. if the guages are not infront of you or pointed at you the faces can sometimes be hard to see. autometer makes angle rings for the smaller guages so you can angle them towards you. this doesn't help with the tach's though.

High5
12-19-2002, 02:39 PM
here is a pic of the autometer angle rings i am/will be using. i just set up the dash on my cruiser/buggy that i am in the process of building and i used them on the three guages in the center of the dash. i know it looks crappy now but i just set up the dash and drilled all of the holes before i tear it down again for paint. anyway you can kinda see the rings on the three guages. they are like $6 for 3 from summit if i remember right.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1096804

TNToy
12-19-2002, 03:51 PM
Crash scares me. No one should be this good with electricals...
http://www.pnw4x4.net/crash/thetoy/4-3swap/43swap22.jpg
http://www.pnw4x4.net/crash/thetoy/4-3swap/43swap79.jpg
http://www.pnw4x4.net/crash/thetoy/4-3swap/43swap87.jpg

If you all get bored and want to read another 6 page rig buildup, here's the post:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37952

UZI 9mm
12-19-2002, 04:02 PM
:rolleyes: pfffft. nice try DSI. no normal human can do wiring that nicely. You must've had some captured alien do it, it's way to good a job.




psssst does this alien hire out at reasonable rates? :D

Pappa Smurf
12-19-2002, 05:23 PM
hell thats better than most factory wiring :eek:

godzuki
12-19-2002, 07:07 PM
Yall keep bragin and he might start charging:flipoff2:

DougO
12-19-2002, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Azrckcrawler


I am attempting it. but nobody has done a write up or how-to.

There was something posted on the Topica mail list about doing the 16V conversion, but that was around 18-20 months ago. It had the breakdown of all the wires, and I believe what to use and how too hook it up to the stock(sami) wiring. I had printed it out, but have moved 2 times since then so I dont know where it is to get the web addy off it ... but there was a post on it

DSI
12-19-2002, 08:49 PM
AZ, thanks for the kind words :D it didn't actually take him that long to do it considering he's only got 1 arm at the moment, the other's casted from just below his shoulder all the way down :eek: he used a factory service manual for the electronic's and the most tiem consuming part i saw was shortening the harness, it's not fully done, as i intend to put everything in taped loom, and silicone the rubber boot into the firewall (reused stock innerfender gromet) :D he also cut out alot of systems on it, EGR, gone, and the two sensors @ the front of the intake are also gone, started first try, and runs perfect, as soon as i can find the plug for a scan tool we will see how many codes it throws not having the VSS, EGR, and other circuits :D

and he was equally as careful and clean about having the line lock's, winch, and start button in a center console, along with wiring the tail/stop lamp in and having the wires run for the headlights/rocklight :D

crash
12-19-2002, 09:08 PM
But I'm stil pissed about that one flippin wire I forgot!!!!

DSI
12-19-2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by crash
But I'm stil pissed about that one flippin wire I forgot!!!!



he he he he :D i wasn't gonna tell :D i knew you'd rat yourself out :D

AMJ
12-19-2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by crash
But I'm stil pissed about that one flippin wire I forgot!!!!


With only one good arm and the short amount of time you had into. I think we can let it pass this one time.. :flipoff2:

crash
12-19-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by DSI




he he he he :D i wasn't gonna tell :D i knew you'd rat yourself out :D

:D :D :D :D
I would be egotistic to say I did nutin wrong,lol...
But its the end result that matters...

DSI
12-19-2002, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by AMJ



With only one good arm and the short amount of time you had into. I think we can let it pass this one time.. :flipoff2:

my thought's exactly... now for the day of repainting from his cast scratching the paint off everything it touched ;)

Azrckcrawler
12-20-2002, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by DougO


There was something posted on the Topica mail list about doing the 16V conversion, but that was around 18-20 months ago. It had the breakdown of all the wires, and I believe what to use and how too hook it up to the stock(sami) wiring. I had printed it out, but have moved 2 times since then so I dont know where it is to get the web addy off it ... but there was a post on it

I searched back thru 99, didn't see anything technical on the conversion (something along the lines of you need x,x,and x wires). Such a beast exists for the 1.6 8v.

crash
12-21-2002, 10:09 AM
Oh, and that little black box hooked to the dist with the little ant, ignore it :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

DSI
12-21-2002, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by crash
Oh, and that little black box hooked to the dist with the little ant, ignore it :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


i was wondering what that thingy was... just figured you installed a remote kill switch to shut off at the worst possible time :flipoff2:

bobaki
12-21-2002, 03:52 PM
the one I saw is http:www.yankeetoys.org/mini4x/efiswap.htm and it was about 8v swap.............................................. ..:D

T1H5_TA3
12-23-2002, 11:17 AM
so, what was the one wire that you forgot?


for those of you that havent figured it ut, crash isnt just good or great.... he's FAWKN ANAL! you shuld see the valve cover he spent like 80 hours polishing!

dave and mike.. looks good, now wheres the pasangers seat?:flipoff2:

DSI
12-23-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by T1H5_TA3
so, what was the one wire that you forgot?


for those of you that havent figured it ut, crash isnt just good or great.... he's FAWKN ANAL! you shuld see the valve cover he spent like 80 hours polishing!

dave and mike.. looks good, now wheres the pasangers seat?:flipoff2:


he forgot the crank sensor wire? i'm pretty sure that's the one he said...


the passenger's seat is sitting in teh driver's seat on the floor next to the rig ;) rhino lining comes first ;)

T1H5_TA3
12-23-2002, 04:15 PM
so ya guna have it ready for hangover run? if so ill be the winch bitch... if all go's well i wouldnt ever have to get outa my seat..

crash
12-23-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by T1H5_TA3
so, what was the one wire that you forgot?


for those of you that havent figured it ut, crash isnt just good or great.... he's FAWKN ANAL! you shuld see the valve cover he spent like 80 hours polishing!

dave and mike.. looks good, now wheres the pasangers seat?:flipoff2:

lol, well, i didn't forget it per say, didn't find anyplace where it was truely needed. I guess the pcm is unable to reconize ignition feed/crank sensor input/cam sensor inputs to relize it was indeed cranking,lol..

DSI
12-23-2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by crash


lol, well, i didn't forget it per say, didn't find anyplace where it was truely needed. I guess the pcm is unable to reconize ignition feed/crank sensor input/cam sensor inputs to relize it was indeed cranking,lol..


so technically you didn't fawk up :flipoff2:


Brian, the front end goes together thursday, so it's down to steering... and i even got my coils for the rear coming... hell it might be done by then!

izooki13
12-23-2002, 09:55 PM
man, last winter i tried strippin my own wiring harness(like all that carb-feedback crap, for instance) and took me forever to get everything working again...routing wasn't a problem for me, it was making everything "accesable"; which didn't turn out too bad....good job on the wiring, Crash, that's sumthin i could never make look good like yers did.
-justin

Desert Jeepin
12-24-2002, 08:51 AM
Wow, the wiring is pretty nice!

Glad to see you go function over form, I think. :flipoff2:

crash
12-24-2002, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Desert Jeepin
Wow, the wiring is pretty nice!

Glad to see you go function over form, I think. :flipoff2:

I always go for both :D