The rig is tall enough now that trying to get the thing on stands tall enough that the axle can droop all the way is a pain in the ass. What are you guys using?

jack stands on top of cynder blocks, jack stands welded to wheels/rims...jack stands on wood..., as long as it has a good base and is strong anything could work.

You could always chain the axle to the frame to limit the drop.

Big-ass jackstands are cheapest at harbor freight.

When I did my SAS, we used some old 4x4 1/4" wall box that was laying around and burned it to some 1/4" plate to make a wider, more stable base. Since it would be easy to "rock" the vehicle sideways off of these, we actually lifed and held it with a big engine hoist, and these were there under frame and crossmember to catch it, in case the jack failed and dropped the truck. I imagine if you made the base ~12-16" wide, you could make a nice, tall DIY jackstand...

http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/sas/sas10.jpg

i have a set of wheels with no tires on that I'll put on the jeep instead of the 36"s if the jackstands arent tall enough. brings the frame rails down far enough that I have plenty of room to work with

Originally posted by jdjanda
You could always chain the axle to the frame to limit the drop.

If I did that it wouldn't do me any good, I would just put the stands under the axle. I need the droop so I can screw with the springs etc.

:D

I like the jackstands inside a set of rims, that gives me another 6-8" right there. The rims I've been using have a bit flat center so they are really stable.

My old man picks on me anymore, joking we've got to lower the jeep to work on it and to put it on the jack stands that's really the case:D

bottom right corner is on of the jacks/rims we were using...
http://www.cj7jeep.com/temp_images/rear2.jpg

i use a large block of wood and the stands on top of them. Cinder blocks are too brittle in my book. i have seen a few break

Drew

I use this base.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp2l.gif

With this head.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp5l.gif

I got mine at the local welding supply. They hold about 2000lbs each and you can fine adjust with the screw lever. THey work good for me.

No cinder blocks, they do break.
I go for custom stands. Just build for overkill.

Originally posted by orbitcat
I use this base.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp2l.gif

With this head.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp5l.gif

I got mine at the local welding supply. They hold about 2000lbs each and you can fine adjust with the screw lever. THey work good for me.

I got the same ones at air gas in concord, CA they were about $100 ea.

I used some left over roll bar tubing and made some very similar to the one's mentioned above the go from 28" tall to 42" tall. I've not run out of heighth yet and have about 2 hours and no money invested, it was all scrap peices to short to do anything with

i use a chain hoist for my rig and harbor freight jack stands for my axels

go to any job sight were thay are building houses and get a cut off frum a garage header some are 5 1/2" or you can find them biger at a comerssal job.thay work great.get the glue lamb or the para lamb that don't crack or split

I guess I'm lucky I take my rig to where I work and use the two post 9,000 vehicle lift.:D

:flipoff2:

2 Cinder blocks with a mobile home pad on top (16"x16"x4ish" cement block available from HD for about 2 bucks) works great!

Those are great! You can also get them at marinas & Boat yards - in Fact, you could probably find some that are f'd up and get them for cheap - they hold 60-70 footers w/ those things in the boatyard....


Originally posted by orbitcat
I use this base.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp2l.gif

With this head.
http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/gfx/large/8732tp5l.gif

I got mine at the local welding supply. They hold about 2000lbs each and you can fine adjust with the screw lever. THey work good for me.

Depending on whether or not the forklift will start- it's cold blooded- we use the floor jack with up to 2 ft extensions where the swivel pad goes or the cherry picker. The 'picker will lift up to 2500 lbs on the short setting which is usually high enough.
For support while working on stuff we bent up some sawhorses out of 1 1/4 sch. 10 pipe (it's cheap) with one side of the horse's legs straighter up than the other side for more clearance to work on axles, etc.
I'll see if I can dig up a pic.

Cinder blocks = DEATH.
All it takes is a bolt, pebble, corner of a jack stand to reduce them to rubble. I WILL NEVER get under a vehicle sitting on cinder blocks.
I use a set of 6 ton jack stands from Northern. Problem is my truck has more droop than I have stands I need to build a set of taller stands. I am thinking of going with something like they use in WRC where they have a hole they just slide into. For the hole I'll use my Clevis holes in my bumpers. Then jut make the heads changeable so it will work on the bottom of a frame rail. Yeah I know going to the end of the vehicle is sort of a pain and if I pull a axle I would have to drag it out sideways but the way my truck (K5) is built the frame doesn't give a good point to go to. I don't like lifting these trucks with a two post. Muffler shop had the arms spread as far as they could because of the frame shape and just about dumped it on it's nose.
I have a asphault drive so I will put a plate base on them. Right now I have some 4 inch brick mold I put under the stands to give them a good base on the asphault.

these are gonna be my next set of stands:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34924
never use cinder blocks!

currently, front of my jeep is held up with a unistrut (actually mixed in some doublestrut) sawhorse. ran a piece of strut through the front tube frame. pretty damn sturdy

I cut up a railroad tie into sections about 14in. ea for jackstand pads. Very cost effective and safe.

Okay, ya'll have these tall jackstands, but what are you using (other than a forklift or loader) to get the rig up that high to account for axle droop?

These are the shortys- don't have pics of the tall ones

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP


I got the same ones at air gas in concord, CA they were about $100 ea.

Damn - I got mine on sale at Fresno Oxygen for $98 a PAIR!:eek:

Originally posted by Pavemen
Okay, ya'll have these tall jackstands, but what are you using (other than a forklift or loader) to get the rig up that high to account for axle droop?

Cherry picker. I kid you not. Gets it as high as you need it.

Close up of the 3 legged stand. Adjustable feet for levelling when building frames, etc.

oops. heres the pic

I had 4 empty beer Kegs at my house that worked great.

I only have one empty keg now.
Good thing I haven't needed extra tall jackstands lately:D

Scored 8 jackstands on an auction in my town (company went bancrupt) 4 pretty big 5-ton. And 4 _FAT_ 10-tons :) -The company used to overhaul large constructiong equipment. Anyway i Payed 10 bucks for the lot :)

I feel pretty safe nowadays.

I got some pieces of ash 30 or so inches around about 40" long.
I can set the whole truck on them. I feel alot safer under it than with jack stands.

Originally posted by orbitcat


Damn - I got mine on sale at Fresno Oxygen for $98 a PAIR!:eek:

They want a 102.00/pr now! ;) :D

12 ton orange jack stands at Harbor Freight ~$100 for the pair

I had the same problem and couldn't find any tall enough so I just made some.

2" well pipe inside 2.5" well pipe 42" long. Drilled some holes and use a 9/16 grade 5 bolt for a pin. Used 16" 4" (1 16" and 2 6" pieces for each) channel for the bases and 4" 4" channel for the top.

My frame is sitting 39" off the floor right now.

Pretty stable.

Cost was $31 at the used steel place for all four.


NEVER USE CINDER/CONCRETE BLOCK!

Originally posted by Old Scout


They want a 102.00/pr now! ;) :D

I did good then. That's about 4 drafts at Happy Hour!

Originally posted by Pavemen
Okay, ya'll have these tall jackstands, but what are you using (other than a forklift or loader) to get the rig up that high to account for axle droop?

I jack mine up by the axle and then put the stands under the frame. Then I take the tires off and the axle droops all the way.

haha.. meant to post this one. 3ton chain hoist.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=2211

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/02200-02299/02211.gif

I get a few buddies and jack up the pumpkin nice and high....position the buddies on the 4 corners...a quick "here, hold this" and bingo.....jeep's lifted....

:D

I just picked up some HF 6-ton stands. They extend to 24 inches and were only 30 bucks. I also use railroad ties if I need more height. I don't think I could work under a truck on anything sketchy(i.e. cinder blocks), its not worth it.

Jeep Jacks of course..

Made them with 1" allthread, so I can crank them up and down if needed with a load on them...

I use the 12 ton diesel truck ones...they go like 30-32" at max height. I also have some jack stands welded to some old 16" drag race rims (18" wide with lots of offset--like 3.5" backspacing) so I get alot of lift and its super stable.

Jason :)

Oh yeah...I have two hydralic jacks that go around 31" up also. But one needs rebuilding:( --need a place that rebuilds them for cheap. I saw a place in Santa Clara just off Montague (or San Tomas) that I may try. And I've also used the high lift on stacked tires and or wheels or a hydralic jack on top of stacked tires or wheels--if I have to lift a lot (or on soft ground) I use my diamond plate trailer ramps so the jack can move under the truck as it goes near full lift.

Jason :)

cinder blocks :flipoff2:

house bricks :flipoff2:

Another vote for the pipestands.

http://users.superford.org/ylobronc/lift/shackleflip/jackstandsfront.jpg

Got my pair from an auction for $75

Take your existing jack stands and make them taller. Weld some 2"x2" angle iron to the legs to extend them. Add some strap around the bottom to tie the four legs together and to stabilize them.

Originally posted by Wheelr
I just picked up some HF 6-ton stands. They extend to 24 inches and were only 30 bucks. I also use railroad ties if I need more height. I don't think I could work under a truck on anything sketchy(i.e. cinder blocks), its not worth it.

i just got some of these for $18 on sale:D .

I just posted this a couple of days ago but these are my home made stands that are adjustable to 4' tall. they have been the most conveinant thing I have ever made. I use them all the time, more than I ever thought I would. I have used them alot for painting. I also use the cherry picker for lifting everything including my rig.

I've used the Harbor Freight 6-ton 24" jack stands for years w/o problems. They go on sale for $20/pair pretty regularly.
I put them on scrap 6x12 wood blocks when I need them to go higher. Some of the BEST money I've ever spent.

I also recently just bought a set of the 12 ton (30") ones too. :) Those were about $80.

Fuck the cinder blocks. I've used them before (as "correctly" as you can get, with wood on top and bottom, etc.), and had them disentegrate too. :eek: Fortunately I wasn't under there.

For those of you using cinder blocks and such...

Can I have your stuff when your truck falls on you:D

Cory

Damn I must be a hick. I have several sets. first ones are for the family rig they consist of old steel wheel welded together like junk yard stands. For the Jeep I have stacked 2x6 sections all nailed together in huge block. and also I have shit load of short pieces of 6x6 posts about 24 inchs long that I stack in a crib pattern to get the height I want.

all i have to say is "The Gods Must Be Crazy" ;)

How much adjustability do you need?

Buy the cheapo 3 ton stands that go from 10-18" tall or so, and about 20 feet of angle iron.

Add about 2 feet to each leg, along with some stringers in between, and bang, bigger fucking jackstands, for cheap.

The only reason I use the more expensive 6 ton stands is that they are more adjustable, since I work on so many different rigs.

The wimpy model stands that are only rated for 3 tons will still support the curb weight of most any vehicle on 2 of them, the 4 that it takes to actually keep it in the air are more than strong enough.

I picked up a set of 12ton stands from Harbor Freight on Friday. They are huge and do the job perfect. I was going to build my own but then I realized that I'm lazy. :flipoff2: