: Pinion yoke tolerances on 14FF


charlo
01-02-2003, 08:34 PM
I have under 1000 miles on my blazer since I put the 14FF under her with a new drive shaft/u-joints. When the caps on the u-joint sit in the pinion yoke on the 14bolt they leave about 1/8 inch of play between the caps and the tabs on the pinion yoke that hold them in place. You can imagine the kinda vibration im getting. So is the u-joint shot or do I need to replace the pinion yoke? It might have spread the yoke when I pinched the straps the other day.

If I redneck it by tack welding a quarter in there you think that will last another 500 miles?

Charlo

KWTMECH
01-02-2003, 09:31 PM
That's the problem with a strap style yoke, the straps stretch and allow the driveline to walk back and forth, need a new yoke, just had to replace a yoke on my d70 for the same reason, but at least I didn't have to deal with a crush sleeve!

charlo
01-03-2003, 01:49 AM
Well the straps themselves are brand new. The straps are holding the caps down fine but the u-joint can walk back and forth in the caps. I fear that when the d shaft pinched the straps it spread the eyes of the yoke apart far enough they didnt recover. Are we talking about the same thing here?

I will take a c-clamp to the yoke and see if I can compensate for it.




Charlo

KWTMECH
01-03-2003, 07:58 AM
If the drivelline moves back and forth with the straps tight I don't think you can ''C-Clamp it'' to get it tight, more than likely your looking at a yoke AND strap replacement. It sounds like the straps got stretched when you tightened it down crooked, and the yoke was worn out before and you didn't notice.

charlo
01-03-2003, 07:33 PM
If the drivelline moves back and forth with the straps tight I don't think you can ''C-Clamp it'' to get it tight, more than likely your looking at a yoke AND strap replacement.
The straps hold the caps tight until I wheel on them hard. The straps were pinched by the yoke on the d-shaft when the rearend articulated to far(landing 3 feet of air). The straps were fawked so I replace them. The pinion yoke leaves about 1/8th inch play between the u-joint caps and the retaining tabs on the pinion yoke now. Is that normal or is it something that happened when I pinched the straps?

Charlo

KWTMECH
01-03-2003, 07:42 PM
If the driveline pinches when at full articulation then you may have turn the pinion up or go to a 1410 u-joint that will allow more flex. When you install the driveline to the yoke the u-joint needs to fit tight between the tabs, that is what centers the driveline to the pinion center. Every time the axle goes to flex and 'pinches' the straps are going to stretch and allow the u-joint to come loose. I wonder if anybody has tried to convert to a u-bolt?

Shaker
01-04-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by charlo

The straps hold the caps tight until I wheel on them hard. The straps were pinched by the yoke on the d-shaft when the rearend articulated to far(landing 3 feet of air). The straps were fawked so I replace them. The pinion yoke leaves about 1/8th inch play between the u-joint caps and the retaining tabs on the pinion yoke now. Is that normal or is it something that happened when I pinched the straps?

Charlo

Get ahold of jesse at HIGH ANGLE....and get either a 1350 U-BOLT STYLE or 1410 yoke and put it on....that strap u-joint shit is JUNK.......If you are binding.....tilt the rear pumpkin up.....:D

Shaker
01-04-2003, 12:15 PM
here is what his 1350 D44 yoke looked like when I got it....now I'm running 1410 series.........

KWTMECH
01-04-2003, 06:15 PM
What I said:rolleyes: :rolleyes: By the way what does a d44 yoke have to do with a 14bolt?:confused:

Shaker
01-04-2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by KWTMECH
What I said:rolleyes: :rolleyes: By the way what does a d44 yoke have to do with a 14bolt?:confused:

showing him what his 1350 with U-bolts yoke would look like.........FNG:flipoff2:

KWTMECH
01-04-2003, 07:41 PM
Nobody makes a 1350 or a 1410 u-bolt for a 14bolt thats why I asked if anyone has converted or tried to!

Shaker
01-04-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by KWTMECH
Nobody makes a 1350 or a 1410 u-bolt for a 14bolt thats why I asked if anyone has converted or tried to!

Jesse does www.highangledriveline.com (530) 877-2875 He supplies me with all of mine......over 1/2 the ARCA guys run his stuff.....killer guy to do business with...:D

KWTMECH
01-04-2003, 08:19 PM
Went through his website----didn't see anything related to yokes or anything really tech, do you have a p.n. and/or price or do I have to call him on monday?

Shaker
01-05-2003, 09:03 AM
Call him....he's got them......I found a pic of my 1410 yoke I got from him...tell him SHAKER says hello....look at the quarter in the yoke......MAJOR BEEFY

mj
01-05-2003, 11:47 AM
so to fix a worn yoke you are having him replace his entire driveshaft and yoke?:rolleyes:

just go get a replacement yoke in the size that matched your driveshaft/ujoint.
nothing wrong with the strap style

KWTMECH
01-05-2003, 12:53 PM
Who said anything about a driveshaft replacement? :confused: :confused: Why don't you go back to the top of the post and read the whole thread from the beginning, then try to make an intelligent comment.

mj
01-05-2003, 01:00 PM
KWT,
do you know of another way to run 1410 joints?
pretty hard to screw a 1410 into a 1350 driveshaft.

email notification is on, but be quick I gotta go outa town, and would love to hear an intelligent answer to that that will still retain the benis of the big joint.

KWTMECH
01-05-2003, 01:10 PM
Like I said read the post, he may have to roll his pinion up to keep from 'pinching' the straps and/or convert to u-bolts.

mj
01-05-2003, 01:13 PM
and it was Shaker that was advocating changing to 1410.:flipoff2:
which WOULD require a new driveshaft to replace the less then 1 yo one in the truck now.

still waiting to hear your 'intelligent' answer.....

I am guessing it will be some time before you can come up with one.

charlo
01-05-2003, 04:29 PM
When you install the driveline to the yoke the u-joint needs to fit tight between the tabs, that is what centers the driveline to the pinion center.
That is the info I was looking for.

What is the advantage of the u-bolt style yokes? It dont seem like they would increase clearance. Is it just they they dont strech?

Charlo

Shaker
01-05-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by mj
and it was Shaker that was advocating changing to 1410.:flipoff2:
which WOULD require a new driveshaft to replace the less then 1 yo one in the truck now.

still waiting to hear your 'intelligent' answer.....

I am guessing it will be some time before you can come up with one.

Well MJ if if were talking to me....you can switch the yokes on a standard d-shaft to use a bigger joint.....no need for a new d-shaft.......:p :flipoff2:

KWTMECH
01-05-2003, 07:06 PM
Thanx---enuf said.

76K5Blazer
01-11-2003, 01:00 PM
I used to drill out my strap style yokes on my jeep and use ubolts

mj
01-11-2003, 01:09 PM
charlo,

the u bolt retainer looks like it would provide less clearance to me. no gain there
your yoke is toasted and needs replacing.
if you would like to re engineer the driveline then Shaker is on the right paths.

I would replace your damaged yoke and ensure the bind doesnt occur again.
I am not familiar with your ride so cannot say better then you how to accomplish that.
leaf sprung axles usually kill the yoke with axle wrap

charlo
01-12-2003, 07:53 PM
Thanks MJ. If I need to replace the pinion yoke I think I might as well go with a 1410 for more clearance/strength. The yoke on the d-shaft is tosted also, besides as soon as I get this 400/205 in I think I need to shorten the shaft so ill do it all at once. Thats why I want to make it a month or so with the trashed yoke I have which leads to a bunch of half ass shit fixing the yoke I have.
I have three ideas so far.
Try to correct the yoke by squeezing in c clamps.
squeeze in clamps till corrected then tighten hose clamp around it :D
bend yokes back in place with jack 1 side at a time.


Charlo