: Anybody know what this axle is out of?


DieselYJ
11-05-2001, 05:05 AM
I just picked this axle up this weekend. Anybody know what it is out of?

DieselYJ
11-05-2001, 05:06 AM
This is the other side.

CJ5-Man
11-05-2001, 05:35 AM
Right hand drive scout maybe? kinda odd seeing the draglink connect to the drivers side. What lug pattern?

GearMan
11-05-2001, 06:15 AM
looks like a dodge or chevy dana 44

locrwln
11-05-2001, 06:20 AM
International product, truck or travelall 1/2 or 3/4 depending on lug pattern. Rust makes it look like an international product.:D

Fullreversal
11-05-2001, 06:29 AM
it looks like a dana 44 from an early Blazer/Jimmy

Scout Dude
11-05-2001, 06:30 AM
I say Chevy 44. Dodges had studs in the inner perch nearest the housing.

hy_desert_4wheeler
11-05-2001, 07:04 AM
Looking at the axle the caliper mounts/calipers do not appear to be Chevrolet/GMC so I would rule out Chevy. I would rule out Dodge due to the above mentioned right spring mount and the way the brake lines come off the axle. You can rule out the1/2,3/4 and 1 ton fords but I would not rule out the F superduty Fords (unless it is a 44 as others seem to think I cannot read the number to tell) since I am not familar with their caliper mounts(and yes the super dutys do have passenger side drops we have one where I work). I would guess it to be from a Jeep J2000 (3/4 ton) J3000(1 ton) or an IH 3/4 or 1 ton.

Grandpa Jeep
11-05-2001, 10:29 AM
Looks to me like a Pre 76 Chevy 3/4 ton with bolt on hubs. Is it 8 lug?

Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler
Looking at the axle the caliper mounts/calipers do not appear to be Chevrolet/GMC so I would rule out Chevy.

Hard to see exactly what those caliper brackets are, but I don't see anything that couldn't be Chevy.

Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler
I would rule out Dodge due to the above mentioned right spring mount and the way the brake lines come off the axle. You can rule out the1/2,3/4 and 1 ton fords but I would not rule out the F superduty Fords (unless it is a 44 as others seem to think I cannot read the number to tell) since I am not familar with their caliper mounts(and yes the super dutys do have passenger side drops we have one where I work).

No way that's a Ford, especially not a superduty. Never seen a pass side drop Ford, at least not from the factory, but if you say you have one at work, I won't argue with you. I assume you are not talking about the '99+ F-250 - F-550 Superdutys but rather the earlier F-Superdutys (really F-450s). The F-Superdutys were only available as a 2WD from the factory, so If you have a 4WD one, it must have been converted by someone, possibly a Ford dealer.

Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler
I would guess it to be from a Jeep J2000 (3/4 ton) J3000(1 ton) or an IH 3/4 or 1 ton.

Does anyone use a steering arm like that besides GM? Never examined a Jeep or IH front axle, but they were available with bolt on hubs as well, so if they came with the steering arm, then that would be a possibility as well.

JeepinIan
11-05-2001, 10:43 AM
The only ones that I know of that have the curved steering arm and the drag link on the drivers side was Gm products.
I have yet to see a Ford w/ a passenger drop pumpkin.
All Jeeps that I can recall have the draglink leading to the pass side.
I'm not at all familiar w. IH, so I can't comment on those.

Ben W
11-05-2001, 11:01 AM
Looks like a Chevy 44 to me too.

CRO
11-05-2001, 01:18 PM
Bendix style brake brackets
drag link is solid (non adjustable)
cast drivers side perch
I would have to go with either Dodge(post 73) or IH
although I don't think I have ever seen a non drum brake IH front other than a Scout
Are there threaded holes about 2" in from the knuckle "c's" on each side? if so then I would be sure it's a Dodge ( I have seen Dodge fronts that use two U-bolts on the pumpkin )
Also is the driveshaft yoke u-bolt style or Strap style?
:D

DRM
11-05-2001, 02:15 PM
How about you get the code off the axle tube and someone can research a Dana Bible to tell you what is is from without al the guessing :p

Ben W
11-05-2001, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by CRO
Bendix style brake brackets
drag link is solid (non adjustable)
cast drivers side perch
I would have to go with either Dodge(post 73) or IH
although I don't think I have ever seen a non drum brake IH front other than a Scout
Are there threaded holes about 2" in from the knuckle "c's" on each side? if so then I would be sure it's a Dodge ( I have seen Dodge fronts that use two U-bolts on the pumpkin )
Also is the driveshaft yoke u-bolt style or Strap style?
:D

If the spindle attaches to the knuckle with 8 studs instead of 6, it is a '74-'75 IH fullsize axle. '74-'75 were the only years for disc brakes on the fullsizes.

Air Ride
11-05-2001, 09:28 PM
Looks like the drag link runs to a steering box behind the axle. Havnt seen that before.

hy_desert_4wheeler
11-06-2001, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by oharris
Looks to me like a Pre 76 Chevy 3/4 ton with bolt on hubs. Is it 8 lug?



Hard to see exactly what those caliper brackets are, but I don't see anything that couldn't be Chevy.

look closely at how the caliper mounts it is not even close to a chevy type mount. It appears to be a Dodge type mount. All the chevys I have seen combine the calipermount and dust sheild into one piece that is a 1/4 inch thick. The mount on that axle is a cast piece with a seperate sheet metal dust sheild. Also the Chevys had an adjustable draglink,but, the draglink in the picture was solid therefore not chevy. only thing I see that could be chevy is the brake lines and the pinion yoke since it uses U-bolts instead of straps.


No way that's a Ford, especially not a superduty. Never seen a pass side drop Ford, at least not from the factory, but if you say you have one at work, I won't argue with you. I assume you are not talking about the '99+ F-250 - F-550 Superdutys but rather the earlier F-Superdutys (really F-450s). The F-Superdutys were only available as a 2WD from the factory, so If you have a 4WD one, it must have been converted by someone, possibly a Ford dealer.



Does anyone use a steering arm like that besides GM? Never examined a Jeep or IH front axle, but they were available with bolt on hubs as well, so if they came with the steering arm, then that would be a possibility as well.

I know for a fact the Dodge uses that same type steering arm so yes others use that arm. So due to ruling out the chevy and Dodge due to the above mentioned items you still have IH and Jeep and since I do not see anything that tells me that is a 44 from DIESELYJ I will still include the F-superdutys

Grandpa Jeep
11-06-2001, 07:23 AM
Well after spending last night swapping out my front axle on my Chevy, and I think you are right, it's not from a Chevy. The drag link on my Chevy bolted on on top of the steering arm, not underneath like on that one. I also agree those caliper mounts don't look anything like what's on my Chevy. The passenger side knuckle has a flat top, and it has disk brakes, that pretty well pins it down to '74 - '76 no matter what it came under. Who knows, maybe someone swapped a Chevy axle under a Dodge and used the Dodge brakes and steering arm.

But I still say there's no way that's off a Ford.

DieselYJ
11-06-2001, 09:37 AM
Well as The Rock would say "It doesn't matter" what it came out of, it's going in my Heep.

A couple of you guys were right on the money. It is out of a 74 IH 1/2 ton. It is set up for a SOA wrangler so i wont have to move the perches.

Where do i get parts for this thing now?