Please don't fawk up this thread by suggesting alternatives such as weld in inserts etc....... If you have a good source to add, please do so.

Search NAZI's, please DON'T do a SEARCH and list that shit. This is CURRENT info as of 1/10/03

So I spent much of my day yesterday e-mailing tool stores looking for the best deal on a 7/8-18 Left Hand tap. Which turned into looking for any store that could actually get it.

Most replied that it's not a standard tap blah blah and they don't carry it. Then some couldn't grasp the LEFT hand thread concept. Anyway, this is what I have so far.

http://www.dreamertoolinc.com
This one looks pretty good, IF A 4x4 VENDER WERE TO BUY UP A BUNCH AND SELL THEM TO US CHEAP! Amazing how much the price drops :eek: $50 sounds pretty fair to me.

THE PRICE FOR A 7/8-18 LEFT HAND TAP IS.

1= 111.18
3= 68.45
6= 55.74
12=39.66

DEL 3 TO 5 DAYS


http://www.jlindustrial.com
Had to contact their vender to get a quote for me.......who the heck is their vender??? part number looks generic for the price quote and they probably won't have a clue if you called them with it.

Good morning Matt,
This would be special order item TLH-99999-L cost $100.30 each. In stock at the vendor delivery 1-2 days. Same pricing for 3 or 4 flutes.


www.e-taps.com
Not very clear on their shipping terms/times, and it looks like they toss in a few fees.

Prices:
7/8"-18 UNS L.H. taps:
1 pc $59.25
2-3 pc $47.60/pc
4-6 pc $42.90/pc

I'm still waiting on some replies, so I may have more too add later.

- -edit - - Got another reply

http://www.jtsmachine.com/

Yes we do have the tap you are looking for. They are $103.73 with a 1 week dekivery. Thanks again!


I really like the idea of a 4x4 vender buying up a bunch for us. You know they would sell very quickly to the 4x4 crowd.

buy 12, yourself. I'll send you a check for $50 for a LH tap. I'm sure there's at least 10 more who would as well.

I thought about it, but that's pretty much a goup-buy(forbidden) I'm not sure I could con my boss(wife) into spending that much money either

I know what you mean about the boss lady. For 50 bucks if its a good tap I would grab one from you.

Depdog

I'm not sure I could con my boss(wife) into spending that much money either

you're not thinking like a husband

line up 11 or more buyers for $50/ea so you can buy them for $40/ea. then you get a free (free is always wife approved, depending on stench of part) tap for yourself, and you can take the profit, go to tiffanys.com, order her a $80 set of earrings, and tell her where the money for them came from to get them when you give them to her out of the blue. she'll be finding you piles of front dana 60's by the wee'ks end :D

If enough of you guys "step up to the plate" I'll order a bunch for us. I just don't wanna die owning these after I order them.....Tim

Originally posted by Shaker
If enough of you guys "step up to the plate" I'll order a bunch for us. I just don't wanna die owning these after I order them.....Tim

I'll buy one from you if/when they are ordered. Just let me know what the total is including shipping etc.

Originally posted by Shaker
If enough of you guys "step up to the plate" I'll order a bunch for us. I just don't wanna die owning these after I order them.....Tim

I have my CC # ready! :D

I'm in!

Now we're talking!

I am ready to buy right now. I'll even prepay if you assure me speedy delievery!

I currently have a bad TRE, but it's built into the tie rod so I can't change it. So, I need to get this taken care of soon so I don't ruin my new tires.

i'll take one for $50

Ok guys I ordered (12) of them today and they are estimated to be here by the 17'th. I'll sell them for $50.00 each + $5.00 S&H flat rate. If things work out this time I'll do this again....well see. 1'st come 1'st serve on these. I am set up for Paypal also my e-mail for that is ( cfryer9968@cox.net ) if you wanna do it quickly that way. If you wanna go ahead and get the payment sent you can mail it to my address below:

Tim Fryer
525 Scarborough Dr.
Chesapeake, VA. 23322
(757) 546-7163 (EST)

PS: I am doing this to help you guys out and I don't mean to "piss" anyone off in the process........Tim "Shaker" :D :D

Great!

What about shipping?

hey shaker

thanks for doin this man ive needed one of these for a while now.

im gonna pay pal you the money. does the 50 include shipping? or is that extra? im way out here on the butt edge of the east coast.

DP

1 for me

thanks!

Originally posted by Nobody
What about shipping?

Originally Posted by Shaker
$50.00 each + $5.00 S&H flat rate

;)

Originally posted by reddwarf

;)
Last edited by Shaker on 01-10-2003 at 10:06 AM
;)

Sent my payment! Thanks a million for helping us out!

Originally posted by Nobody
Great!

What about shipping?

I JUST ADDED THAT TO MY POST-sorry.....I'LL CHARGE A FLAT 5.00 S&H fee.......:D

Originally posted by Dust Puppy
hey shaker

thanks for doin this man ive needed one of these for a while now.

im gonna pay pal you the money. does the 50 include shipping? or is that extra? im way out here on the butt edge of the east coast.

DP

I'M EAST COAST TOO......5.00 FLAT SHIPPING FEE:D :D

Sent my money too. Thank a million Shaker!!!!:beer: :beer:

pm'ed ya and I'm sending a check tomorrow.

:D

Ok guys you are all on the list......ONLY 5 TAPS LEFT......1'st come 1'st serve......Tim

Originally posted by Shaker
Ok guys you are all on the list......ONLY 5 TAPS LEFT......1'st come 1'st serve......Tim

Count me in - send me a PayPal money request for the total if I made the cut - drm1@charter.net

count me in for one. Is a personal check ok or do you wnat a Money order? I will send the check out in the morning or get a MO out Monday.
Steve

Money is in the e-mail!

Money on the way via Pay Pal

Just a quick question Shaker. What company did you order them from. I'm just curious. Thanks.

I highly recommend e-taps.com I ordered the 7/8 -18 R&L taps in december and they arived about 2 weeks ago. Looks like good quality stuff, I havent used them yet. E-taps has good communication, they were prompt with email quotes and let me know when it shipped out. They dont take credit cards so I sent them a check. My price to my door was about $102 for the R&L 7/8 18 taps

E-taps did respond quickly to my e-mail. In fact they were the first company I e-mailed, then I thought, fawk it I'll e-mail every company I find until my boss notices I'm not getting any work done :D

Sounds like e-taps is a legit source then. However, you did get overcharged for the right hand tap. The right hand tap is a very popular tap and can be purchased most places for $20.

I scored 3 off of ebay for a total of $15. Supposively they were used, but I couldn't see any sign of use.

Shaker, if there's any left, I want one. Let me know and the MO will be on the way. Thanks.

Originally posted by DRM


Count me in - send me a PayPal money request for the total if I made the cut - drm1@charter.net

sent you a request......

Originally posted by jdjanda
Money on the way via Pay Pal

got it....your on list

Originally posted by Old Scout


I have my CC # ready! :D

can use it thru paypal...

Shaker,
Could you list those who made the cut?

Originally posted by Shaker


can use it thru paypal...

Sorry my paypal account is a mess.

Originally posted by EBSTEVE
count me in for one. Is a personal check ok or do you wnat a Money order? I will send the check out in the morning or get a MO out Monday.
Steve

Money Order will be fine.....PM your address I'll put you on the list to guarantee you 1.......:D

Originally posted by JeepinIan
Shaker,
Could you list those who made the cut?

i could but how.....only about 3 guys listed their "Pirate" name....I know you made it....:D

Thanks Shaker!

Originally posted by Old Scout


Sorry my paypal account is a mess.

PM me your mailing info.....I'l, put you on list.....mail me a Money order......:D

Originally posted by DRM
Thanks Shaker!

got your paypal...your on list.....no sweat.....

:D

Shaker, are they all gone yet?

Definately put EBSteve on the list. I called him on the phone to tell him about the deal. He's definately good for it.

Originally posted by EBSTEVE
count me in for one. Is a personal check ok or do you wnat a Money order? I will send the check out in the morning or get a MO out Monday.
Steve

personal check is fine.....PM me your mailing address....to put you on list.......few taps left.....

Originally posted by kbud
Shaker, if there's any left, I want one. Let me know and the MO will be on the way. Thanks.

PM me your mailing address I'll put you on list....let me know if you want one.....looks like you gonna be the last one to get 1....

Originally posted by biggnome
Just a quick question Shaker. What company did you order them from. I'm just curious. Thanks.

dreamertoolinc

Originally posted by Shaker


i could but how.....only about 3 guys listed their "Pirate" name....I know you made it....:D

Thanks!

just paypal'd you $55.00

thanks!
v6toy4x

I'm in, sent ya paypal of fifty-five duckets.

OK Guys ALL 12 are GONE......Let me know if there are more of you who wanna do this.....If so I'll order more......Tim

Originally posted by Nobody
Sounds like e-taps is a legit source then. However, you did get overcharged for the right hand tap. The right hand tap is a very popular tap and can be purchased most places for $20.

Yeah I figured it was a little more $ there but I had to order at least 2 to get a discount and I didn't need 2 lefts and I didnt have the right.

Originally posted by Shaker
Ok guys you are all on the list......ONLY 5 TAPS LEFT......1'st come 1'st serve......Tim


I'll take one Tim. Oh, and by the way...sorry about Hooter's the other day...I had forgotten I had duty on Friday. We'll do it sometime near future.

Later,
David

Originally posted by CornbredNE



I'll take one Tim. Oh, and by the way...sorry about Hooter's the other day...I had forgotten I had duty on Friday. We'll do it sometime near future.

Later,
David

the taps are already gone/sold.......thats ok I just finish making some custom hub covers for my 60.....Your gonna drool bitch..:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Shaker
OK Guys ALL 12 are GONE......Let me know if there are more of you who wanna do this.....If so I'll order more......Tim

If you do this again, I am definately in for 1 tap.

Put me down for one. Thanks.

To minimize tapping problems and lengthen tool life, use the largest drill possible to produce a minor diameter that will result in the lowest percentage of full thread consistent with adequate strength. A minor diameter that provides a 55% to 65% thread is sufficient for most requirements, but in some cases a higher percentage of thread may be necessary to conform with the minor diameter limits of the thread class specified.
Drills generally cut holes larger than their diameters. In the form bellow, the probable percentages of full thread were determined by the average amount oversize the various drills are expected to cut. Reaming becomes necessary when close control of the hole size is required.

Uhhhh.......in english please......

Well with our new taps on the way, I was kinda curious what the optimum size hole for tapping would be if I were to drill and tap something solid, and to be sure which ID tube I would need.

I had read 1.250 OD x 0.812 was the stuff to have. Which is ~13/16. According to this website and nifty little calculator, that is correct. Although, even ID 0.831 would be sufficient.

http://www.osgtool.com/technicalinfo/drillholecalc.asp

When I build linkages for customers I usually bore out the ID to .820-.826 7/8x18 fits in perfect......hope this helps ya.;)

Originally posted by Shaker
When I build linkages for customers I usually bore out the ID to .820-.826 7/8x18 fits in perfect......hope this helps ya.;)

According to that website that is a good idea to prolong tool life.

To minimize tapping problems and lengthen tool life

Do you use a straight reamer to bore it out or a lathe?

Originally posted by Nobody


According to that website that is a good idea to prolong tool life.

To minimize tapping problems and lengthen tool life

Do you use a straight reamer to bore it out or a lathe?

I got a lathe........:D

hey shaker

i sent you money last week before you added the 5 bucks shipping to the post. i was away all weekend i just sent you off the 5 bucks and put my screen name in the email.

thanks man

DP

any tips/techniques on tapping the tube by hand to get it lined up straight ??

- jack

Shaker,

Good talking with you today. If you are purchasing more, put me in for 1. Let me know when to send the $$ through Paypal.

Later,

Joe

Mark me down if you order more.

did the taps come in today Tim ?

- jack

Originally posted by morpheus
did the taps come in today Tim ?

- jack

:( No not today....but we are in the middle of a ice storm here.....I will post here when they are in my hands....

:crybaby2: :(

:D :D OK GUYS GOT THEM IN THIS AFTERNOON.......I WILL MAIL OUT THE ONES WHO HAVE CURRENTLY PAID IN FULL.....:p :D

:grinpimp: :usa:

Anyone get there tap yet? Just curious, I sometimes have trouble getting stuff shipped to me.

Originally posted by biggnome
Anyone get there tap yet? Just curious, I sometimes have trouble getting stuff shipped to me.

I bet not because FEDEX just picked them up today......We have had a bad snow/ice storm here so that screwed up everything......Everyone who has paid to this point went out today.....

I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining. Your weather has been just as bad as ours lately. FedEx is good about delivery for me. Thanks for the heads up. :beer:

got my tap!!!!

it came in sat, looks good, i cant wait to use it.


thanks shaker!

DP

Shaker,

Any word on another round of 7/8-18 LH taps being offered? If so, count me in.

Joe

Originally posted by Shaker


I bet not because FEDEX just picked them up today......We have had a bad snow/ice storm here so that screwed up everything......Everyone who has paid to this point went out today.....

Sweet - should see mine Mon. or Tues. :)

id be in for a tap also.. thanks.. ill also be contacting you for a steering arm.. did you get the ones for front and back d60 done yet?

Originally posted by Devil Dog
id be in for a tap also.. thanks.. ill also be contacting you for a steering arm.. did you get the ones for front and back d60 done yet?

yep.....they are ready....

Next time, you might try Cutting Tools, Inc. 2212 Wayne Trace, Fort Wayne, IN 46803 260-424-5300. I bought left and right hand taps for 11-16/16 for about $50 for both. From what I have learned here, this is the standard thread for not only my Land Rover, but also the standard for Fords.

I went around and around with most of the common tooling supply shops, even some of the specialty shops and this was not only the best price, but they are local to me and the delivery was next day.

While I can understand the price being higher for the larger tap, I don't understand the significant gap in price for what are both decidedly non-standard tools.

Peace,
Paul

The right hand tap is a STANDARD tool. It's listed as a sparkplug tap. As was discussed before, some of the larger truck engines have sparkplugs this size.

OK guys let me know when you get them....Thanks-Tim:D

No tap for me yet :( Fed Ex can never find my house though.....even though it's a half mile from their office:rolleyes:

Anyway, I did help a friend tap some .812 with a borrowed tap on sunday. Let me tell you, it was a bitch. It definately needs to be reamed out a hair. Even after the holes were tapped, the TRE's were extremely difficult to screw in because there was too much thread enguagement.

The drag link I'm running now was made from a cheby tierod. I just cut the right hand threads off and re-tapped. (already had RH tap) That stuff has a slightly larger ID, and was really easy to tap, and the TRE's screwed in nice and smooth.

So anyway, you've been warned! Wouldn't want you to ruin your new taps!

All the tap charts i've found say the you need a 53/64 (.828) hole. If anyone has found something contradictory then please let me know. :beer:

Shaker, got mine an it a looking good! big thanks :beer:

Got mine yesterday. Thanks Shaker!:D

Hey Rich Schaefer-Robert Mann Still waiting payment to arrive for you guys. Let me know if you changed your minds so someone else can get these who want them......

PS: Anyone else get their taps?

Still waiting on mine :( I'm a left coaster though.

Got mine today. Thanks again Shaker.:beer:

:usa:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mattsara/bb/78-18-tap.jpg

got my tap yesterday Tim. looks great thanks bro !

- jack

Originally posted by Nobody
:usa:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mattsara/bb/78-18-tap.jpg

Were is your reamer?:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Old Scout


Were is your reamer?:flipoff2:

I got the POS snap-on one :mad:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mattsara/bb/tre-stuff.jpg

Originally posted by Nobody
[B]

I got the POS snap-on one :mad:




Me too, but I've read that if you go slow and don't force it(heheheh, sorry thinking of something else :D) it works fine.

left hand tap was on the porch when I got home today

Thanks tim

I got mine yesterday, thanks shaker. Hey Nobody where is your tubing? Reamer? :flipoff2: HA HA I will probably have two piloted reamers ( one for me one for you ) .812 to 53/64 (.828) by the time I have material. I was trying to get one that had a .822 but it not being a standard it would be tought and take a lot of time so I decided that .828 should be fine IF you don't want one let me know. and for everyone else sorry but I can NOT get anymore reamers but any local tooling shop should be able to regrind a 53/64th for you.

My was waiting for me when I got home from the road. :beer:

Joe

got it, thanks.

Originally posted by Shaker
Hey Rich Schaefer-Robert Mann ......

PS: Anyone else get their taps?

OK Guys your taps went out today Jan. 3:D :D Anyone else get theirs yet? How about you West Coast guys........

Yep. I got mine today.:D

Are there any plans to do this again in the future?

I missed the boat the first go round. I have been paying a local shop $40.00 a tube to drill and tap my stuff. I could have bought 4 of these taps by now with how many I have had to do.

Originally posted by morpheus
any tips/techniques on tapping the tube by hand to get it lined up straight ??

- jack

I've got a technique that has worked pretty well for me. Let's say your going to drill and tap some 1.25" x .250 wall tube with your new 7/8-18 tap. Go get a block of steel that is 1.5"x1.5"x3" long. (you will want to do this on a lathe to keep the centers in line) Bore a hole in one end that is 1.25" in diameter by about 1.5" deep. In the other end, bore a hole that is 53/64" (drill diameter for 7/8-18 tap) in diameter and through to the other 1.5" bore. Now what you have is a piece that you can fit over the tube end and will align your hand drill to drill straight into the tube on it's axis. Take the alignment piece off and you should be able to hand tap it now straight in without any alignment pieces. The tap will follow the bore. Just don't get crazy with side loading while threading it in.

Works great for me.

I didn't read the thread but,

www.mcmastercarr.com

Originally posted by four_by_nut


I've got a technique that has worked pretty well for me. Let's say your going to drill and tap some 1.25" x .250 wall tube with your new 7/8-18 tap. Go get a block of steel that is 1.5"x1.5"x3" long. (you will want to do this on a lathe to keep the centers in line) Bore a hole in one end that is 1.25" in diameter by about 1.5" deep. In the other end, bore a hole that is 53/64" (drill diameter for 7/8-18 tap) in diameter and through to the other 1.5" bore. Now what you have is a piece that you can fit over the tube end and will align your hand drill to drill straight into the tube on it's axis. Take the alignment piece off and you should be able to hand tap it now straight in without any alignment pieces. The tap will follow the bore. Just don't get crazy with side loading while threading it in.

Works great for me.

I do something similar, only directly in the tube. I typically use 1 1/8" by .250 wall tube to make steering links with 3/4" shank, 5/8" bolt heims. I will take the tube (5/8" bore) and drill it out to 11/16" bore (tap diameter for 3/4" fine thread) about 4" deep. I will then come back and drill it out to 3/4" diameter about 1" deep.

I use the 3/4" bore area as a tap guide, and tap thru the 11/16 bore segment. Once it is tapped, just cut the extra inch off with the chop saw and chamfer the threads with the 3/4" drill bit. It is not 100% perfect, but it works well enough.

Originally posted by Nobody

www.e-taps.com
Not very clear on their shipping terms/times, and it looks like they toss in a few fees.

Prices:
7/8"-18 UNS L.H. taps:
1 pc $59.25
2-3 pc $47.60/pc
4-6 pc $42.90/pc



I just called E-Taps today. They have reduced their price on these taps to $45.75 ea.

http://www.e-taps.com/Ofertapage%20028.html

They are expecting to receive a shipment in on 3/3/03

The contact is Chris and his number is 607-759-7970 and his email is sales@e-taps.com, his english is broken but he seems like a nice guy. He quoted me a little over $20 on RH threads too.

RH
http://www.e-taps.com/ofertapage%20020.html
$22.50


LH
http://www.e-taps.com/Ofertapage%20028.html
$44.00



shipping/handling
$9.30

Where can I get the left and right hand 7/8-18 jam nuts?

I stried calling Parts Mike, but he never called back. 2 calls and 1 PM. Also, the Chevy part number listed in this site was discontinued in 1982... (called 2 different dealerships)

What is the current source of choice for the 7/8-18 LH tap? did anyone due another buy on these? I receintly barrowed a set that had 6 flutes, does anyone know where they may have come from?

Where did all yoots get your 7/8-18 LH nuts?