Okay...I'm a bum...I let my star expire...

Who want's to host and post some pics for me? (I'll jump in between the SB comercials)....

--D

Send me to me.
RebelArcher4x4@aol.com

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Thanks a bunch TTURokToy!

As you can see there is a lot of finish work to do, but you get the general idea. Looks like King got the spring-rates right the first cut...At least in the posure shot's it looks okay.

I'm having second thoughts about the sway bar too...I'll have to get her in the rocks first to tell for sure, but so far she's pretty well balanced.

Grego'...Give me a call and I'll tell ya' about the fuel pump stuff...

Anyway, good feeling guy's!

And a special thanks to Tom Woods' for helping me out on the drive shafts...I'll post up some special shots of his new "Rock-and-Roll" shafts...Flippin' bitchen work.

--D

That is fawking BADASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really makes me wanna quit on the Disco and figure out how to get an ExMOD D110 into the US.

Any shots of the rearend, and the linkage?

Jon

PS: If you have any more pics you need hosted, just flip them over to me and I'll have them up ASAP

Thanks Ron....Pic's coming your way right now....I'll have more time to check the posts now that Oakland looks like their getting a good'ol' fashioned ass-whoopin.

Still diggin' the comercials though!

--D

More of RockRover's Rig:

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The Terry Tate Reebok commercial was AWESOME!

Holy SHEEEIIITTTT!!!!

SAAAAWWWWWHHHHHEEEEEAAAAATTTTT!!!!

Man, what a friggin rig now! Way to go. You absolutely have to come down to LC for the CC. Just get that baby delivered, and then all the grand parents and inlaws can help while you are gone.

Keep the picts coming.

Btw - should have some super secret mod pictures very soon of the D110.

Later,

Billster

:eek: :eek: HOLY CRAP:eek: :eek:

Nice work....your my new hero:D

Justin

*drooooool*

Agree with the above; very impressive! Cheers to you :beer:

insane, i want to do similar with a series now.

lets see, i have a D70, 400SBC, and a body and frame... :eek:

Jeez, man!!! That is one fine piece of work!! I hope we can see you and the truck in action at CC .... even if only for a day or 2. Now Powerhouse is a definite must!!
Troy

Absolutely farkin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Unreal Doug. Great to see your D90 up and running. What a rebuild!!!! It will be good to see you on your old trails to get a feel for the difference some king coilovers, a d60, a d70 and a few old 42in tsls will make. Id imagine it would be almost scary to drive given how different it is from its previous incarnation. But man, ANYTHING with your specs would have to be a blast to drive. Tyres poking out every side, massive ground clearance, massive strength and a full roll cage to boot. How much fun is that machine going to be - you will be able to point it at absolutely anything, plant the right boot and hang on. Absolutely farkin AWESOME.

Congrats on your work. Looks great.

Sam

Doug that looks the dogs nuts mate!

Well done.






Wyrd thing is those 42" tyres actually look perfectly natural on there:eek:


I think ive been hanging around on here to long:rolleyes:

Thanks for all the kind words guy's. There is always a bit of trepidation when you post up your work around here. Of course it's still early!... :)

I plan on adding a spreader or two on the top of the cage, and add to that about 16hrs of clean up and paint.

Ordered a rear sway-bar from Stockcar Products....Ohhhh....About *4!* weeks ago...Even went down on bar diameter such that I could get the thing in "one week"....Riiiiiight.

Your right Sam...It is a VERY different driving it now....Especially from humble beginnings she started at. Something about a 8" lift, a lot less sheet-metal and no windshield that changes your perspective. Of course after a trip or two up and down the street in front of the shop I had her in 4hi and brought her up to (estimated) 45 - 50 mph. I did notice that the compound angle on the drive-shaft would cause a slight vibration at that speed...Of course I don't have a center console anymore, and the cover plate is off....That translates into staring straight down at the UJ...Kinda skaaarry seeing a 20lb drive-shaft, at a compound angel, spinning REAL fast only about 12" from your leg!
The other thing I'm going to have to get used to is having Detroits front and back...I used to have ARB's...The extra wheel-base and soft stuff kills' my turning radius...Disconnecting the front axle really seems to help, but I have to remember to do it! I figure about....Ohhhh....One 1/4 mile in the rocks, and I'll have it back.

I'm going to do my best to get to the CC! Count on it! But alass it's really out of my hands. Family comes first around here. My wife does understand however, that I'm like a bull in a china shop when I have a rig built AND a place to go! I really all depends on the recovery time she needs.

Billy! Time to post up the supper secret mods dude!!!

Rich! Time to post up some pics of yours!!! I just checked my pic files...I truly started this thing 3-17-02...*IF* you don't count the year before when I was doing the parts procurement and house remodel...So that means you have less than 6 months to be rolling! :flipoff2:

Wow! Looking forward to see how it does!

Rich

I'm going to start the clock now that you finished and get it finished by next January. I'm planning on doing similar mods (axles, role cage, suspension) + custom body panels, bed, and top. The 37" tires I'm planning sure look puny after looking at your rig. Oh well, I use to being the underdog!

Sheila and I finished laying the outside layers of the top (1 foam layer, 4 glass layers, and 1 kevlar layer). So far, the top weighs 27 lbs without the lexan windows, the inner layer of glass, or the side windows cut out. This is cool stuff. I have tried the screw driver test on a sample layup - can't penetrate the sample by hand! Takes a punch and some heavy blows from a hammer to penetrate the sample! Kevlar is tough stuff! I'm going to let it cure for awhile before work continues on the top. I started working on the plugs for the tub this weekend. Will start with the side panels and then the floor. These will be easy compared to the top.

The rear flat bed and the cage has been redesigned (easier to build and removable for extreme stuff). However, since Blister won't show his, I won't show mine!

If someone knows where I can get a fj80 front axle, this will sure help. Once I get the front, I'll order the 9" rear.

Still working the the rear suspension design. This is going to take a while.

Great work Doug!

Rich

Originally posted by 9V
insane, i want to do similar with a series now.

lets see, i have a D70, 400SBC, and a body and frame... :eek:

Adam

Can't wait to see your progress on this long talked about much changed super series project:rolleyes:

















Only kidding mate:flipoff2:

All I need are some 42" tyres to go with the 101 axles and I could be following in Dougs footsteps;)

Originally posted by rhills

If someone knows where I can get a fj80 front axle, this will sure help. Once I get the front, I'll order the 9" rear.

Rich

www.car-parts.com

You can do a search and find some near your location.

Hopefully I'll be picking up a set of FJ80 axles soon, money permitting.

Doug,

What did the final measurements end up being. Overall width, WB, height of chassis etc. Dont suppose you got a pic of it parked on level ground, just trying to get a feel for how big this thing is.

How does the full hydro steering feel on the road?? You went with a double ended ram and a return to centre orbital, didnt you??

Sam

Doug-

Glad to see things seem to be working as you'd planned. Hope to see you in NM in Feb. Looks goooood!!!

Johnathan

Dougie!

Trepidation??? You? Posting that stuff here???

No F-in way.

Anyone flips you even the tiniest bit of shiat should be banned.

It's totally friggin' awesome. Now I have 42" envy that's for sure.

Now.....let's work on that winch.......(gimme a minute or two).

Rich....No f'in way dude...The clock started 3 months ago...You've got until November 03' buddy...I seem to remember a while back a quote that went something like this: "Yea right Doug...I can get it done in a year no problem" You've got 9 months left my friend: :flipoff2: :)

Sam...Just measured the WB at 111" ....Track width at 85" front and 82" rear...Frame height (from the ground to the bottom of the frame rails is approx. 19"...Top of cage? Flippin WAY up there! :) 14" under the diff's.

Now to the weight...Jumped on a scale today...and.........Drum roll please....4210....:( That's kinda where I thought she'd land after hearing your news Sam. I didn't feel too bad because I had a friend with me in a totally chopped and bobbed buggy CJ...No floor-boards, tubed rear....Totally minimalist...He popped 3800lbs! He's using pipe for a cage though.

Tis...I'm gonna' try and make it for sure!!

Mike...Lemme' know man. I had a painter looking over the rig this afternoon...I wasn't going to paint it, but if he want's do do the cage in epoxy and a nice clean coat of single stage on the body...And the frame...For free...Then who am I to argue? :) If that's the case then I'll be ready for the camera's for sure!

Thanks all!

--D

Doug,

The only thing that HAS to happen about the winch, is you have to agree to run wire rope.

I don't care WHICH wire rope you run, but it has to be wire, no UMPHFWE, (whatever...).

Color choice for body??? (kind-a curious)

All that effort and expense, and no chrome diff cover????

Just kidding, but in all seriousness, it is definitely a well thought out nicely constructed machine. I would suggest (for safety’s sake) a stylish pair of goggles for those freeway test runs.

-Jeff

Originally posted by Serious One
Doug,

The only thing that HAS to happen about the winch, is you have to agree to run wire rope.

I don't care WHICH wire rope you run, but it has to be wire, no UMPHFWE, (whatever...).

Color choice for body??? (kind-a curious)

Heck Mike, I wouldn't care if they want me to run used tampon string if it means a comp. winch! :)

Color? I'd go with the standard red...Subtle, yet stand out'ish...Not to mention the PIA it would be to do anything else...I really don't feel like pulling the dash and everything on the bulk-head just for the sake of a color that's gonna' get trashed anyway!

Goin' to the CC?

--D

Originally posted by JSBriggs
All that effort and expense, and no chrome diff cover????

Just kidding, but in all seriousness, it is definitely a well thought out nicely constructed machine. I would suggest (for safety?s sake) a stylish pair of goggles for those freeway test runs.

-Jeff

Chrome? Nah... But I was eye'in those neon license plate frames....The kind that go round and round....Not sure if I can figure out the electrical part though...:flipoff2:

--D

Originally posted by Strange Rover
How does the full hydro steering feel on the road?? You went with a double ended ram and a return to centre orbital, didnt you??

Sam

Yup...

Feel on the road is good....I don't have seat-belt's yet, and the shocks aren't charged yet either! :eek: So I haven't had her up to a good clip yet (50mph +) But I have had her close, and I have to say that there isn't any true "road feel". My castor is set way forward (nutural to positive) so that doesn't help any....However fully locked in the front with 42's and I can spin the steering wheel with one finger...Nooooo problem. The other thing is that the "death ride" stories you hear are false with a well put together system (thanks Station!). It's the kind of thing I know I'll get used to very soon. It sorta' reminds me of driving my Grandfathers Caddy....Suuuuuper easy one finger steering...Except I feel like I'm eight feet in the air! (wait a minute!)....

Steering is constant through the RPM range too....No 'twitchyness'. I totaly recomend it if your more trail than street.

The one thing I would do differently would be going with an orbital valve that is 2 or 2.5 turns lock to lock. When I was putting the parts together I decided on a '4-turn lock to lock' orbital. I find that I have to palm the wheel more than I would like, but that's truly a nit-pick.

--D

Tampon string? EWWWWWW~!!!!!! I don't think that's approved by legal....I'll check.

When I was at Cedar I was hanging out with one of the guys that was running a full hydro system. It was pretty cool with the steering wheel going to a SHORT shaft into the hydro block/motor/pump thingie. He had two lines to the pump and then to the ram. Is that how yours is setup?

I wondered about the road feel thing. Do you even feel any bumps or anything? Is there any feedback at all into the wheel? Like, will you know you're at full lock, or pushed up against a rock or whatever? Hows that work? :confused:

The 'twitchiness' you talk about, I can relate. I feel a bit of it on my hydroboost brake setup. I get more braking the higher the rpm's are and less the lower it is. It's never low enough to cause a problem, but I know that as the rpm's drop the pump is working less. I feel it a hair in the Saginaw system too. I havent bled either the brake hydro lines or the steering hydro lines since we fired it up back in Oct., so maybe it's time???

Anyway, congrats again.

CC? Hmmm..probably not. I was thinking Hammers for a quick winch/lights shoot.

The app. guide has been pushed back to March, so maybe we'll be able to do something by then.

Originally posted by Serious One
Tampon string? EWWWWWW~!!!!!! I don't think that's approved by legal....I'll check.

When I was at Cedar I was hanging out with one of the guys that was running a full hydro system. It was pretty cool with the steering wheel going to a SHORT shaft into the hydro block/motor/pump thingie. He had two lines to the pump and then to the ram. Is that how yours is setup?

I wondered about the road feel thing. Do you even feel any bumps or anything? Is there any feedback at all into the wheel? Like, will you know you're at full lock, or pushed up against a rock or whatever? Hows that work? :confused:

The 'twitchiness' you talk about, I can relate. I feel a bit of it on my hydroboost brake setup. I get more braking the higher the rpm's are and less the lower it is. It's never low enough to cause a problem, but I know that as the rpm's drop the pump is working less. I feel it a hair in the Saginaw system too. I havent bled either the brake hydro lines or the steering hydro lines since we fired it up back in Oct., so maybe it's time???

Anyway, congrats again.

CC? Hmmm..probably not. I was thinking Hammers for a quick winch/lights shoot.

The app. guide has been pushed back to March, so maybe we'll be able to do something by then.

Yea, it sounds like the same system...Steering shaft from the wheel to the orbital, then 4 lines from the orbital (left, right, pump and return).

The orbital I got from Station is a load-sensing...Meaning I will get some "notice" if I'm wedged tight...Hopefully enough notice that I don't rip my knuckles off prior. I havnen't had her in the rocks yet to tell. I'll lecha' know when I do, but right now I can shove the truck right or left with one finger on the wheel. I know when I'm at full lock by looking at the wheel, and more importantly, it won't turn anymore and will blead-off at full extension of the ram...No worries.

I don't think you have a airation issue...Sounds to me to be a psi/volume issue. Slap a 3.5 gpm and 1.5ksi pump in her and your worries will be over!
PM me when the time is near...

--D

Sorry to hi-jack your thread Dougie....but since we're talking...

My steering feels fine, not quite one-fingered, maybe two. Its just that the brakes feel, well, its kind of hard to describe. Nothing dangerous, and WAY strong and there when I need them. Just low on idle it feels like I have to push the pedal way farther than I would need to at higher RPM's. Both systems are running off of the same pump. I really DON'T want to re-invent the system we've got going now.

What if I just went to a smaller pulley? Would that help the gpm issue?

Wonder if there's a similar pump that fits the same position but with a slightly higher flow?

Hmmm.....(too bad I'm not a mechanic eh?)

WAY COOL!! That thing looks awesome Dug! I have been so busy over the last couple of weeks that I have had very little time for internet cruising. I am glad to see that you are finally rolling.

I am also glad to hear that you are happy with your steering. Thank you for the feedback:) . If you want to get that 2.5 or so turns lock-lock let me know...It can be done pretty easily.

One thing I wanted to remoind you about, and this will also answer some of the peoples questions.....Is you keep your thumbs out of the steering wheel. When rockcrawling ,if you are not gripping the steering wheel firmly, The steering wheel can spin in reaction to the wheel being driven against something. The effect is a good bit less than normal power steering, but is still there.

Also to answer others questions, yes the load reactive steering valve allows you to feel whats going on with the wheels. If steering against something, there will be more than normal resistance against the steering wheel, though you would still be abe to continue to steer with 2 fingers if you wanted to.

Have fun with it Doug! I have started building my chassis this week. I have to have all tubing bent within 2 weeks, as I am borrowing the bender and have to return it. All mower frame rails are bent, now I have to bend the main hoop and work forward/backward from it.

Sean

Thanks a bunch Sean....It's been a long time coming, but it's worth it so far!

I'll PM you on details on the orbital...


O'yea....And Sean?


POST SOME FAWKING PICS!!! :flipoff2:

Out of just about everyone on this board, you are the man when it comes to homework....I kneal before you....


Have a good one...I'm going back to bed...Caught the flippin' flu....Arrrrggg...

--D

shweeeeeet. Doug. I really like the direction you went on the Tube. Can wait to bum a ride. I'll trade you trucks on a trail:D :D :D . The Mog is a bit bigger this year!!

Okay boy's and girls! I'm a daddy again!

Amber Grace was born 01/29 at 5:42pm....7lbs 14oz at 20.5"

Mommy (and daddy) are doing fine...Poor Diane (and daddy) had the stomach flu the day before the delivery...:(....But we both recovered JUST in time for the delivery...4 pushes and Amber was with us. :bounce:

Sure KC you can saddle my rig! Just don't do what I did to yours though! :)

--D

Congratulations!!

:bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce2: :bounce2:

Allow second that Congratulations!!
:beer: :jeep:

Congratulations!!! :bounce: :beer: :bounce2: :beer: :bounce: :beer: :bounce2:

whoohooo anothert little one, O and yea I would love to strap into a real truck. But I dont think the front fenders would hold up as well as the mogs did. I am going to get a big magic marker and write Doug on that Fender, or maybe some of your trade mark bulelt holes. hehehehe.

Congrats man, on both the Little one and the truck.

BTT for James and Troy...

Troy? Are you bronco Troy?

--D