: R1 Q's


c5sidewayz
01-29-2003, 07:16 PM
Well I just got my motorcycle permit and am thinking about buying a new R1, but 12-13k is a big hunk of cash to lay down for something iv never ridden. Although im new street bikes, iv been riding dirt since I could walk, and currently have 00 husky TE610. But my question is does Yamaha have a proving day or some time when I could test ride a bike before purchase? I now that’s what I did on my husky a few years ago.

Sillyneck
01-30-2003, 09:13 AM
trust me....you'll like it! I've ridden that and an '03 Gk1 and I like the gixxer better but that's just me.

I know nothing about the proving day thing. I'm getting a gsxr 750 tonight I think. it's totaled but an easy fix.

Sidewalk
01-30-2003, 10:25 AM
Have you taken the MSF course yet? If not, take the course before you even go looking at bikes. They hold the courses at the community college on Atlantic, you can often times drop in. You will walk away with your license (no DMV riding test). That course may just save your life.

What ever you do, start small. Don't be stupid like most folks and try to pretend like you have something to prove and go out and buy a Gixxer 1000 because your friends say they are cool. A Gixxer 750 is a good in-between bike, so is the SV-650. Nothing better then walking away from some guy on a bike bike because he can't handle the size in the twisties.

c5sidewayz
01-30-2003, 03:22 PM
Huh, no DMV test sounds good to me? And no I haven’t taken the class yet so I might just drop in, I herd you could do it alameda college, and I was actually thinking of a gsxr, but I heard their allot more uncomfortable to ride? Anybody now? Cuz with my new job I would like to buy the bike by the end of the month

Sidewalk
01-30-2003, 03:25 PM
People say my bike is horrible, but I have ridden it 450 miles straight (stopping for water/fuel breaks every hour). It wasn't that bad, just depends on what you consider to be comfortable. Sit on the bike, then take it for a test ride. If you don't like it, move on to the next one you like.

c5sidewayz
01-30-2003, 04:12 PM
Sidewalk- nice to see a neighbor on the board. So I take it you have a gsxr. If so is it true their faster than an r1? And if so is it significantly?

Sidewalk
01-30-2003, 06:17 PM
Look at my sig line.

Just be sure not to consider ever owning what I ride.

MellowYellow
01-30-2003, 06:20 PM
I think he has a Buell from his sig. <edit> soo I type slow :p<edit>
If you are worried about comfort, then you have to consider your size. I'm short so I don't care much. :D
Take the class, but the DMV test is a no brain’r.

My opinion is that the bikes today are so nice, that it is really style and comfort that drive the decisions. I’ve ridden ZX-7’s, 600’s, a GPz550 and some older Japanese cruzers. I get the feeling you’ll be commuting on this bike. Take a long look at the standards. They will be more comfortable in traffic, they have less plastic if you lay it down, and the price tag is much better. And they still go and stop really fast.:eek:

After all that, I don’t know jack about the R-1. :D I know the engine works out great in a D sports racer with close to 200 hp. :D

Sidewalk
01-30-2003, 06:25 PM
When I took the DMV test (I also took the MSF course, another story there), it was real easy. When my wife took it about a month later, it was very difficult, I couldn't have done it. I think she got screwed with a racist pissed (my wife is white, and this was in Oakland) off examiner.

c5sidewayz
01-30-2003, 07:13 PM
Yea im like 6 2 so comfort was a big thing, but it wouldn’t be a commuter, just something to bring out on nice summer days and occasionally to the track. And I thought it would be cool to join a club and go on long runs through different parts of the bay area.

MellowYellow
01-30-2003, 09:09 PM
In that case,:idea: get a fast bike:D
For track days I say keep the bike small. 600-750.
For weekend road trips. 750-1000.
Get a twin! They just sound so cool!:cool:

What am I saying, I'm jealouse of just about every sport bike that goes by. I miss riding. That's the main reason I read all these threads.

c5sidewayz
01-30-2003, 10:08 PM
Hell iv been saving up for the down payment for like ever so I earned it!!! And in college that’s no easy feat

Sillyneck
01-30-2003, 11:45 PM
I got an 02 gixxer 750 today. I'll tell ya how it is after I put it back together (it's totaled a bit) :D

I liked the last one I rode. but I've ridden a 1k since then sooooo we'll see might need some mods;)

MellowYellow
01-31-2003, 01:37 PM
Oh to be single again, where money is the issue. ;)
I sold my streetbike heart and got one of these:D

skulltoy
02-01-2003, 02:16 AM
Go for a Buell! I have a 2000 X-1 with about $10,000 in mods. They aren't the fastest bikes in the straights, but throw a few curves in and the and the V-twin tourqe takes over!

Sidewalk
02-01-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by skulltoy
Go for a Buell! I have a 2000 X-1 with about $10,000 in mods. They aren't the fastest bikes in the straights, but throw a few curves in and the and the V-twin tourqe takes over! How many miles are on it?

If you have over 15,000 miles, you have a lemon. They all like to blow at 10,000 (mine went at 12,000). I will never own an HD product again because of thet POS Buell!


I know a lot of people who have had major failures with Buell. That Sportster engine was design to be assembled for that much HP by monkey's.

skulltoy
02-01-2003, 11:43 PM
I live in Colorado and most of the time we have winters here, so mine has low miles I think around 3500:eek:

I just think you had a bad one I know a bunch of Harleys with 50,000-60,000 miles on them.

Mine prob. won't last that long though too many wheelies burnouts, and rev limiter shifts. I only have 3500 miles and I'm on my fourth tire....:D

Sidewalk
02-02-2003, 12:04 AM
A Sportster puts out 60 HP (to the wheel), a Buell is pushing more then that. The Buell is not liked by HDC, they build them in hopes that kids will get off of a crotch rocket, and get on to a "real" bike. That explains why they are built like crap (you will gain HP just by rebuilding the engine to factory specs), and why the new bikes lack even more balls.

I ride (sorry, rode) my bike gently (relatively), I have only hit the rev limiter a few times, never topped out the bike, never done a wheelie, never done a burn out. I bout it with 6000 miles, I got 6 month worth of riding out of it (riding season never ends here IMO). I had a bike for 6 months, and I have to rebuild it? This is almost normal? Sad truth, it is. I know a guy who went through 3 engines in 20,000 miles, how do you explain that? He wasn't a 'hard' rider, but he doesn't ride slow either.

Buell has consistantly blamed the owners for thier engine failures. I refuse to go back to a company who blames me for thier POS bike breaking in 6 months.

HD's bikes have much higher quality control, but screw them. I will buy a Honda next (looing at the ST1300 right now). I want something I can ride, and not worry about what peices are going to fall of while going down the road. And if something goes wrong, I won't have to worry about Buell saying "Well, don't ride it like a sport bike".

MellowYellow
02-02-2003, 11:15 PM
I guess I should edit my post.
All the new "non-American" bikes are so good these days...

I think the buell is a good idea, but a poor exacusion. I like the ATK as well. I would love to see a modern American bike for the masses. Maybe Cannindale will try sport bikes next:D j/k

Sidewalk
02-03-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by MellowYellow
I think the buell is a good idea, but a poor exacusion. I agree, except that the Buell is barely American. Suspension and brakes are from Japan, lighting and frame are from Italy, I am not sure where else. I am sure most of the electrical is all Asian components. The engine may be American, but that is about it.

MellowYellow
02-03-2003, 10:00 AM
No kidding!
I was looking at a Harley and I noticed many parts that were not made in the states and I talked to my Harley riding friend and he said that the seat and the tank were not made in the states too. He loved his bike, but he had no illusions that it was "American Made".
I think the only guys that can claim that are the custom guys.

I'd rather see one of the race teams here in America, design a frame around a Japanes, Italian or British motor until someone in the US builds a sport motor.

I just think there isn't enough $$ to make it worth it in the US.
Oh well at least we have the freedom to ride any 4-stroke we want to own, sort of...

Sidewalk
02-03-2003, 10:20 AM
The way I see it, we are in a global economy. To persist in not buying an item because it is not "Amercian made" (which little is, even if they say it is) is just foolish anymore (I came to this conclusion a little while ago myself as well). Besides, what is the difference between a Buell that is assembled in the U.S. with foriegn parts, and a Honda, assembled in the U.S. with foriegn parts. Honda employs a lot more people in the United States then Buell does, and provides a better product.

333
02-03-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by c5sidewayz
But my question is does Yamaha have a proving day or some time when I could test ride a bike before purchase? I now that’s what I did on my husky a few years ago.

Many of the dealers just recently started giving test rides on demo bikes again. Requirements: motorcycle license, insurance and at least act like you might buy something.

Try that new Yami dealer in Hayward.

Sillyneck
02-03-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by skulltoy
I live in Colorado and most of the time we have winters here, so mine has low miles I think around 3500:eek:

I just think you had a bad one I know a bunch of Harleys with 50,000-60,000 miles on them.

Mine prob. won't last that long though too many wheelies burnouts, and rev limiter shifts. I only have 3500 miles and I'm on my fourth tire....:D

95% of harleys are still on the road. that means only 5% made it home :D:D

Sidewalk
02-03-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Sillyneck


95% of harleys are still on the road. that means only 5% made it home :D:D :D

TIMMY
02-04-2003, 08:50 AM
If you are worried about comfort and you are as big as me 6'4" 250lbs go with the suzuki. The best thing to do is to find a friend that will let you borrow his for a couple of days.

JW
02-10-2003, 02:29 PM
I am happy with my R1. Did not need the power, but it is fun:D . I am 6'4" so I need a big bike.

Don't worry about getting a big bike if you have never ridden, worry about a big bike if you ride stupid. Buy your bike for what you want to use it for. I started on a CBR 600 and graduated to my R1, but they are both easy to ride once you get going. I am not sure about others but I could apply smaller amouts of throttle when I was learning, not a big deal.

I work in Alameda and inquired about the class. Don't expect to "walk in" and take a course. Wait times are usually 1-2 months. I took my DMV test (finally) about a year ago. VERY HARD on a 1000 cc sport bike (I failed once and practiced allot). They have you perform a series of manuvers that would never be used in real life (like circles and riding between two lines 24" apart at 2 mph sustained). I took the test on my friends bike (vulcan 500) and passed no problem. I am not saying don't take the course because I hear that their is allot of very good info, just don't expect to walk in.

Oh ya, GIXXERS ARE COOL!:)