i just got my winch and dont get how it bolts on. im not installin it now...but soon my friends soon... its a warn 8274. peace

:flipoff2: COOL

Looks like a 3 cylinder with those plug leads on top:rolleyes:

so is that bad? :eek:
--- i still need to know how to mount it. i dont see how it is bolted on. ive never really cared enough to see how a winch is mounted. i allways thought it was like bolted down but...:rolleyes: :confused:

If you look at the front of the winch, down in the lower part of the front facing surface there are two bolt holes on each side - in the picture the right hand side housing is turned a bit. Basically, the winch mounts to a verticle plate that is welded to the back of the bumper - four bolts hold it on. Of course there has to be a horizontal slot in the plate for the cable to come through. Pics later.

:confused:

Thats an interesting looking warn 8274!!

Looks like a modified bellview. I'll take some pice tonight.

Originally posted by DCruiser138
i just got my winch and dont get how it bolts on.

DCruiser138, I called warn's support number, got the spec's for the installation fasteners and they sent me an installation/owner's manual free. Check them out at http://www.warn.com. I couldn't find the square nuts that go behind the top two bolts in any local hardware store, so I ended up getting some from Warn via 4WheelParts for cheap. Here are some pics.

picture #1 (http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/tech/8274_mounting_bolts/img_1378.jpg)
picture #2 (http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/tech/8274_mounting_bolts/img_1379.jpg)

I don't remember the size of the bolts off-hand, but make sure you don't go with grade 8 - grade 8 bolts are hard but they are brittle. Go with grade 5.

Morgan

Look at the pic he posted. It does not mount like an 8274. The body of the winch is threaded in 6 places. It does not use the nuts on the backside like an 8274. If I remember right, it uses 7/16 or 1/2 inch coarse thread bolts. I have a front bumper (if I didn't throw it away) from a cruiser that had the same winch, ie bolt holes are already there that you can have if you want it. I will look for it tonight. As to me posting pictures... It seems as though my msn communities account is un-available so I can't post any untill I figure that out. But the bumper I have will bolt right onto a 40 front end and accept the winch. email me if you are interested. or post here if you aren't in a hurry.:eek:

so is that bad? LOL!

you know jeff...sheesh :flipoff2: :rolleyes:. excuse me for being young and stupid. i dont know jack bout winches. lol.

AGGRO - ill take it. lemme know where you live and stuff. my bumper is ugly and :rainbow: and needs to go.

also..whats a bellview? is this winch jacked up? anything visually wrong with it? bob roggy the guy i got it from told me it needs a new seleniod.

Okay... this is gonna be long.

You have what appears to be a warn 5687 style winch which has been converted to electric operation. Brief history lesson:
The 5687 was the forerunner of the current 8274. It was an upright style winch, and was controlled entirely by cables from the cab. There were no SOLENOIDS controlling the motor, and it could only spool cable in. It could not power out, and it's brake was a flexible steel band that a cable tightened around a smooth steel wheel.

The 8274 is still in production. It is the updated version of the above winch. The solenoids allow the motor to run backwards and power cable out, and it uses a toothed wheel and ratcheting mechanism as a braking mechanism.
The winch you have here appears to have the 8274 style electric control (Hence Solenoids, which are like very beefy versions of relays, and they're what controls your engine's starter). So it can power out, and it also has the 8274-style braking system.

As far as mounting, here's what I can tell you: The winch you have is just like the one I had. There should be 6 bolts to mount it, all (I believe) 7/16" You will need to find a place to find these in Grade 8. Grade 5 works (I've seen them fail) but do your best to find grade 8's.

This winch mounts FOOT FORWARD. This means that the bolt face the FRONT of the bumper. The Mounting bolts are the six red circles. You can see that there are 4 on the face of the winch body, and 2 on the other side of the cable spool, where the slanted red line is. That sides two bolt holes should be rotated (orange arrow) until the red line matches the blue ones.

I have drawn a standard Ford or Chevy-stlye winch bumper here, not the type of thing that would typically be monted onto an FJ-40... so don't compare it to that! The green is the bumper, the white is the grilel of the truck, and the yellow is the headlights. I have also drawn in the cable and it's fairlead hole in purple.

That's the best I can do, and I hope it helps. If you have any other questions no one else seems to know the answer to, please <a href="mailto:mudyota@hotmail.com">email</a> me or send me a P.M. as I don't visit the FJ side of the board too much. (Not that I'm claiming to be the warn master or anything - but I do have a 5687 downstairs right now, and will be happy to help you out).

BTW - My 5687 is for sale, wink wink.

whoa :eek: bad ass. thanks. so is this a good thing? is this gonna work out ok or did i fawk up when i bought it? what should i ask 4 when i buy the selenoid? the 8274 version right? i get how to mount it now..thats clear.

Dustin the bolt up pattern does not exactly match the newer 8274, yours is a very old version of it, my friend greg has the same one and we make te bumper for it. The four holes on the gear drive end are easy, but for the other end make sure you get the gap perfect with the 2 sides parallel. or else it will eat the teflon bushing that the non motor driven end rides on.

It is a bithen winch, you will never find another that looks like it. If you don't mind saying how much you payed i would like to know, just to compare it to the deal Greg got.

Good luck.

Ian-

P.S. that was my dad using my name further up in this thread, he does that sometimes:rolleyes: :flipoff2: .

$250 ian. and, there is a chance that the non motor end bushing is worn. its not really up and down wobbly...just like the whole plate can move side-to-side a bit. ill take a better look in da a.m.. do i need to call warn to get a replacement? peace!

So, I drove around on the property last night. I found the bumper. You can have it. I am in Pollock Pines, Ca. Click on the email Aggro button to be in contact with me. That winch is nearly as good as an 8274. I believe when they sold that winch it was marketed as a 6klbs unit whereas the 8274 is rated at 8klbs. Both of which pull better than rated in my experience. That one is a little heavier than an 8274, but since somebody went to the trouble to put the newer style brake on it it is very well suited for use. The old style without the ratcheting brake, if you winched up a hill, as soon as you let off the power in button (lever) they tended to not hold and the truck would begin rolling backwards, unspooling the cable. You're set- run it. Not a terrible price too!

<font color="yellow">He's right about the ratcheting brake improvement. BTW - his is a model 5687, which is 8K pounds rated (I think). It should say the capacity on the sticker on the top of the motor-side of the winch (not on the motor - on the top at the same end as the brake wheel.)

As far as getting the teflon bushing from warn, you can try - but I would expect to find they don't have it (unless the 8274 still uses it). That's the main downside to the 5687 - it's strong as an ox, fast, and rarely breaks, but almost impossible to find parts for.

Make sure you change out the oil it that bad boy. The gears are run in an oil bath (like a tranny) and I would definitly change it out before installing the winch. There are drain and fill plugs on the same side as the brake wheel.

Speaking of the brake wheel - the boys right about that. It very rarely actually worked well, especially if it was raining. Which is why they switched to the ratchet style you've got.

BTW - As far as price, I paid $200 for mine, but it's completely 5687 style. Crappy brake, cable controlled, and can't power out. It's also for sale, since I couldn't find a way to mounth this behemoth onto a 4Runner, and ran out & got a Superwinch X9.</font>

I've got that same winch, without the updated brake and solenoids. The thing is bad ass. They are fast (I've jerked people off their feet respooling cable :D ), indestructable, and as of a few years ago you could still get parts for them through Warn. As for the pull rating on them, they seem to be very under-rated. Mine has pulled where other, newer 8000# winches have stalled. As far as I'm concerned, when I do the 8274 brake and solenoids on it, I'll have the perfsct winch.

yotasan your posts are much better on the right board:D