About to start my new coil set up and can't decide which to use or to use both. Johnny joints are fairly cheap and offer 30 degrees of misalignment and rod ends(40 dollar ones) offer 13-16 degrees. What I need to know is which is better for 3 and 4 link applications? Thanks!

From what I understand "johny's" are the way to go. Not to mention you can rebuild them for cheap.

Ya, I think that is what I am gonna go with fatty. Another thing is that there is alot of mud around hear and it looks like the johnny joints are semi-sealed and rebuildable as aposed to the rod ends. Should I use them all around front and rear? Would there be any probs with doing that?

Ok, how about this. If I do a 4-link rear with johnny's on all the links combined with the light weight of the sammy, will I need to have a panhard bar in the rear?

it depend on how you set up your 4 link.

johnny joints are the way to go i just got all mine in for a total of 16:eek: damn thats a lot of money :barf: .they are bad a$$ tho

where do you buy them, and what do they cost?

I have had my johnny joints for two years now on my 4 link. They work great and are still tight. The rod ends on my steering all need to be rebiult.

All you guys that have jonny joints, where did you buy them? Are all jonny joints the same, or are there various quality joints? The only ones I've seen are the ones allpro sells for $38 each.

rod ends are alot stronger.

Originally posted by nuttzack
Ok, how about this. If I do a 4-link rear with johnny's on all the links combined with the light weight of the sammy, will I need to have a panhard bar in the rear?

I think that's what the Shaffer Coil Kit has.

Originally posted by Pig Pen
rod ends are alot stronger.

Yes they are, However Zuks are light and Johny's are strong so where is the problem with running them?

Ok, I think I will go with johnnys on the lower links and on the uppers I will go johnnys where it connects on top of the axle and rod ends for for the frame mounts, so that I can adjust my pinion angle if I need to. How does that sound, I like it!

Originally posted by fatkid


Yes they are, However Zuks are light and Johny's are strong so where is the problem with running them?

so run a smaller high quality rod end, if weight savings are what you are after.

Johnny's still have more misalignment and are cheaper! I like rod end too because of strength, but are a bit pricey and I dont know how well they do in muddy conditions.

wieght wasn't the issue.:rolleyes:
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What is the issue...??? There is no problem with running them. If you want a joint of that style I would suggest the RE joint because of its ease of assembly. Also the preload adjustment is bitchin.

got mine from work summit racing there are 2",21/2"and 3"i went with the 2 1/2 inch there bad ass personaly i belive they will be a hell of alot stronger then a heim joint i can remember the price i got them at cost.before summit picked up currie i spoke to mike shaffer of shaffers offroad and he was the cheapest that i could find i would get them through him...





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Originally posted by fatkid


I think that's what the Shaffer Coil Kit has.

Shaffer, as in Mike (Shaffer's Offroad):question: :cool:

How many Shaffer Coil kits do you know of?:flipoff2:

Johnny Joints like this

http://www.4offrd.com/tj2k/rearaxle_coils.jpg

did you buy those lower mounts for the johnny joints?

Originally posted by 84xtracab
Johnny Joints like this

http://www.4offrd.com/tj2k/rearaxle_coils.jpg


Those look like springs...:flipoff2:

THanks for the info dudes, but after all that I went with aurora rod ends. Now its time to start workin!

why, you bought the ones from spidertrax for $20 a piece huh.
O'well...

I'd go jonnies the next time around or large style rubber bushings and ford radius arm ends bushings the ones on the stud end . my teflon crappy $50 dollar rod ends fall apart every 6-8 months or so ,unless I had the money for chromoly super indy car hiems.

but, but, but there stronger...:rolleyes: