Klune V or terra low??

[Victor72]

I have been looking at the terra low 4 to 1 kit for my 94 YJ, but i also was looking at the Klune v extreme underdrive. I have'nt heard any feedback on the klune v (i know) terra low is a tried and true kit. but i think i like the idea of the on and off aspect of the klune v. Anyone use it or know someone who does? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep2.gif" border="0"> DOG

[Steve N]

Klune-V's Rule! Am I prejudiced? Though I sell Klunes now, I should be a terra dealer soon. I just ordered mine. The advantage of the Klune is you still have stock low range. Think sand/snow. The Klune gives more options but costs more.

[Desert Jeepin]

Ney newbie, pull yer head out and do a search on Klune. There have been SO MANY posts on this I'm tired of describing it for everyone. Lazy SOB.

[FULLSIZE]

nice attitude. i think everything has been talked about to an extent. if everyone did searches there would be nothing to talk about. maybe he will catch different advice from someone thats right up his alley. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[Desert Jeepin]

So what, we're being selectively nice to newbies now? This has been covered so much you'd think that a simple search would cover more information you get with a Klune. Here's the skinny since you can't find the search button.

If you have $2200 + $500 for drive shafts Go Kluve. It way kicks ass over the Tera.

If you only have $1200 and don't want to mess with drive shaft issues, go TeraLow, it's better than nothing, but a waste if you ever plan on going slower.

[Supergper]

Why not Atlas??? I think that you would be making a valuable upgrade by going Atlas and not worry about driveshaft issues with the Klune...although at a later date you could then go klune and get REALLY low <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[RokHeep]

How about BOTH?!?!? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[tj_chick]

Originally posted by RokHeep:
<STRONG>How about BOTH?!?!? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
im on the way therew my self

[yjtj]

the disadvantage to a clune v is that your driveshaft will be pretty short by the time ya get it in and in a yj its short already

[SOCALXJ]

I havent heard of anyone breaking any Klunes, but if you do you're screwed.. you aint going anywhere. I would still take one over a 4-1 anyday.

[tj_chick]

Originally posted by SOCALXJ:
<STRONG>I havent heard of anyone breaking any Klunes, but if you do you're screwed.. you aint going anywhere. I would still take one over a 4-1 anyday.</STRONG>
helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SOCALXJ
i saw one break but i heard it was an oldschool proto type so im sure it wasnt all there

[Desert Jeepin]

Yeha, that's the ONLY one on record for them breaking. Call them and ask! BTW, when you call tell Luke I said hi!

[Bert]

<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep2.gif" border="0"> DOG,

He is correct if you do a search this has come up a bunch of times.

Basicly I will go Klune; When I feel like getting an electric pusher fan.
Removing the stock fan, Moving the engine forward 2 iches, Hooking up a SM420 tranny to my new Dana 300 inverted kit, and then somewere in the middle goes the klune V.

Once all that is done my rear drive shaft will still be the same lenght.

Lots of work. But think about it Twin sticks and klune V in a TJ.. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

It should only cost about $4,000.00 or so.
I have to wait till I get that too. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: BellyUp ]

[bullfrog]

What ratios does the klune V have? Doing a search I only found 2.7. I plan on using the Atlas 4.3 also has twin stick without having to move the entire drive train forward ot rear axle back. This matched to 5.13 gears (Dana 60 and 14 bolt) should give a nice low crawl ratio. And only around $2000.

Jeremy

[Bert]

bull frog,

The klune, (someone correct me if wrong)
Has 1-1
4-1
11-1 reduction.

Selectable. So you can still get your T case in low range just like you dont have a Klune.
Or you can keep the t case in Hi range and go to 4-1 and be slightly lower than low in your t case or you can go way down and 11-1 and reduce your t case and go nowhere in a hurry. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> I should have a final crawl of like 195 -1 And that is with 4:10 gears. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0"> slow enough for ya?

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: BellyUp ]

[Bert]

check out this tread too.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=011656

[AzJeep]

Originally posted by Jeepdog69:
<STRONG>I have been looking at the terra low 4 to 1 kit for my 94 YJ, but i also was looking at the Klune v extreme underdrive. I have'nt heard any feedback on the klune v (i know) terra low is a tried and true kit. but i think i like the idea of the on and off aspect of the klune v. Anyone use it or know someone who does? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep2.gif" border="0"> DOG</STRONG>

Will leave ya w/ a pretty short rear d/s. Not a problem for a trail rig, though.

[Victor72]

Originally posted by D Heep:
<STRONG>Ney newbie, pull yer head out and do a search on Klune. There have been SO MANY posts on this I'm tired of describing it for everyone. Lazy SOB.</STRONG>

OK D HEEP,
#1. The rason i did'nt do a search is cause i wanted to get the realtime feedback from those who have used it.....recently!!
#2. Just as "Fullsize"said we want things to talk about RIGHT???
and #3. Last but not least...i love Reading what people who "think" they know it all, say,there are only a few...but they are there none the less. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep2.gif" border="0"> Dog

[Bert]

Thanks I feel so much better about knowing or thinking I know everything. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: BellyUp ]

[Steve N]

Originally posted by BellyUp:
<STRONG>Thanks I feel so much better about knowing or thinking I know everything. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: BellyUp ]</STRONG>


Bwa ha!!! You think you know it all!!
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> Belly's right. Not sure about the extra low in the David case though.


The big advantages are you get to keep your present low and add extra lows too. The Klune takes the place in most cases of the adapter going between the tranny and T-case. So it is not always as long as it seems. I just ordered a 32 spline output david to go between my 999 and my big in/out 300. Should be killer.

[bullfrog]

Originally posted by yjtj:
<STRONG>the disadvantage to a clune v is that your driveshaft will be pretty short by the time ya get it in and in a yj its short already</STRONG>

Looking at the advance adapters page, the NP231 w/ short shaft is 16.3" long (about 20" w/o the short shaft kit) so the KLUNE V
/ATLAS combo is a total of 20.3" long, the KLUNE V/NP231 w/ short shaft combo is 22.8" long. So if you choose to go 231 short shaft/klune v combo it isn't going to shorten the driveline too much (2.5" to 3" difference in total length.) If you have the money to go ATLAS Klune V the length difference is 0" to .5". If any of this is incorrect let me know because I don't see much problem in driveline length if you ue a high angle drive line.

Jeremy

The info used:
NP231 stock - 19.8" to 20.3"
NP231 w/ AA short shaft - 16.3"
ATLAS - 13.8"
Klune V - 6.5"

[YJ4RoX]

I believe the two ratios available in the Klune V are the 4.0:1 and te 2.7:1

I plan on a Klune V at some point and move my engine forward to compensate for the added length.

[billyji]

in addition to all these other comments you have the ability to clock your trnasfer case flat....I am also in the middle of installing a Klune between a 999 and a dana 300. for tech help ask for Luke he will help you till Hell freezes over
Billyji <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[badassjeepguy]

Originally posted by BellyUp:
<STRONG>bull frog,

The klune, (someone correct me if wrong)
Has 1-1
4-1
11-1 reduction.

Selectable. So you can still get your T case in low range just like you dont have a Klune.
Or you can keep the t case in Hi range and go to 4-1 and be slightly lower than low in your t case or you can go way down and 11-1 and reduce your t case and go nowhere in a hurry. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> I should have a final crawl of like 195 -1 And that is with 4:10 gears. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0"> slow enough for ya?

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: BellyUp ]</STRONG>


you must be wrong with the 11.0 to 1, if that was the case youd end up with 780 to 1 ratio <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> i dont think so...

if you run everything you currently have plus the klune in a lets say 4 to 1 youd have a final ratio of 178.432 to 1

if ya tera lowed and kluned you have 262.4 to 1

if ya went to a 4 speed box with roughly a 6.5 first youd have 426.4 to 1


if ya did all the above and changed gears to 5.13 youd have 530.4 to 1


there ya go belly! and i have no engineering degree <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ba hahahaha <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Bert]

Thanks rob, I didnt have my calculator handy. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">