Anyone used an ox locker before? How do they hold up relative to ARB's?

No air lines to worry about so I'd say they hold up relatively well compared to ARB's. These cable's are as HD as they come. My only problem has been that they take some getting used to. You have to develop a feel for shifting/locking them in. Kinda like an unsyncho'ed tranny.

Go to their website to see some ways for getting it engaged. One is to turn to synch. it, and there are some other ones.

One of the last gear swaps I helped on was a d44/d30 combo, both with ARB's. Dealing with those G'DAMN'D pneumatic bulkhead fittings was enough to curb any thoughts of putting ARB's on my own rig.

IMO, the simpler cable actuator is a far better idea.

cm "but for crying out loud, black out the reflective 'OX' " k

cm "but for crying out loud, black out the reflective 'OX' " k

I have to agree with that!
That reflective OX looks a little too :rainbow: for me.
Make it black and never look back!!!

Yes they have been out for a while now, but give me the reliability of my bulletproof, foolproof detroit any day. I don't think I will get a lot of people disagreeing with me on this one. Detroits are bulletproof, very positive locking, and you don't have to *remember* to lock them up before wheelin.. I know for me, thats a good thing.
Scott :grinpimp:<><

The :rainbow: reflective OX is just a sticker; peeled right off. Don't let that stop you from buying one...;) Oh, and if you want to make it more unreliable, you can soon get an electric solenoid to pull on the cable for you.

Originally posted by crawlin'YJ


I have to agree with that!
That reflective OX looks a little too :rainbow: for me.
Make it black and never look back!!!

Power washer already took most of my front sticker off... the rear one is still hanging in there though. ;) I think this is one of those "problems" that'll eventually take care of itself.

Sticker aside, that is one HEAVY ass cover they put on those things. I have no complaints about the Oxen under my Jeep other than the price... They work well.

As far as shifting them goes, one quick tug at the wheel while keeping pressure on the levers is all you need. (The diff case needs to turn so the dog gears on the case can mesh with the ones ones on the ring gear side.) Don't let that dissuade you from buying 'em though. I mean, it's not like they're difficult to engage or anything like that.

Jake Harsha

anyone know anything about the new Detroit lockers that are suppose to come out soon? I hear that they are mechanical like the OX ones but when they are "disengaged" they function like a limited slip so you can still have "4wheel drive" like on the snow and suff, but when you engage them they become a full locking locker.

the only one that I heard of that Tractech is coming out with, is electric, but it goes from open to a limited slip. Wothless if you ask me.

Originally posted by Xenodank
anyone know anything about the new Detroit lockers that are suppose to come out soon? I hear that they are mechanical like the OX ones but when they are "disengaged" they function like a limited slip so you can still have "4wheel drive" like on the snow and suff, but when you engage them they become a full locking locker.

Sounds complicated... I haven't heard of these.

Jake

I hear they're coming out with the OX locker for the D60 axles soon. Heard they had it on display at the SEMA show.

I was just getting ready to purchase an ARB, but after hearing they're coming out with one soon, I may consider.

Question: Since they replace the Diff cover, how much farther does that diff cover stickout, versus the stock one?
Reason I ask, is b/c my tierod (RockRod) sits very close to the diff cover already. I don't think that a cover that sticks out farther will clear the rod......
Boss

Boss:

The OX 44 covers don't seem to stick out much farther than the stock covers did. They probably do stick out a hair more though--the metal is much thicker so they probably stick out by the thickness of the metal.

When I installed the cover on my front end, I had to wiggle and shift it around a bit to get the fork to slide onto the collar, but I didn't have to remove the tie rod or anything like that. And since my Waggy axle has a "knuckle-over" tie rod and draglink that put's the tie rod about dead center across the middle of the cover (unlike the stock D30 which had the tie rod under the knuckle arm) that's probably about the worst-case you'll see, clearance-wise.

I'm not sure about how much room there is between the tie rod and cover on your average D60 setup, but I'd think there would be a little more.. I don't know though. I'd guess that most people who are swapping a 60 into a Jeep would probably go hi-steer at the same time anyhow so it wouldn't be a problem...

The good thing is, once they're on there you don't need to take 'em off to change your gear oil because they have a drain plug and a fill plug.

HTH,
Jake Harsha

Originally posted by 1badjeep
Yes they have been out for a while now, but give me the reliability of my bulletproof, foolproof detroit any day. I don't think I will get a lot of people disagreeing with me on this one. Detroits are bulletproof, very positive locking, and you don't have to *remember* to lock them up before wheelin.. I know for me, thats a good thing.
Scott :grinpimp:<><

Detroits are awsome, and my only choice in the rear axle, but for the front, they tend to pull you off your line, in high traction situations. I like being able to engage the locker only when I need it, and free up my steering. I will wheel some trails and never need the locker engaged, why have all of the added abuse on the steering, axle shafts and U joints when you dont need it.
I agree though, that the pneumatic fittings, are a pain in the ass. I finaly fitted my ARB with a bulkhead flair connection at the housing with a compression fitting inside, and an AN4 fitting and stainless line outside.
I would consider the OX or especialy a Detroit on/off locker if they have one available for a D60 in a couple months.
I would like the idea of a version with locked(on) and LSD(off).
Actually for hard core applications it would be nice, if they made a version that was naturaly locked, and actuated to the off position, that way if you lost your ability to activate, you would still be locked, untill repairs could be made.

The electrac will only be recommended for 33 or smaller tires and will go from a LS to a full locker. It seems pretty worthless to me.

There is a new axle upgrade avaliable now(sorry I can't remember who does it), but is uses either an OX or Detroit with the carrier machined to take larger side gears to accept 40spline non-taper alloy shafts!!!!! These eliminate the neck down on stock Dana 44 shafts, so they stay 1.31 inches all the way. Apparently the strength is about 16% less than Dana 60 35 spline.

Originally posted by Boss
I hear they're coming out with the OX locker for the D60 axles soon. Heard they had it on display at the SEMA show.



I don't know when it will come out, but check out this thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11999