Anyone know of any good companies that have disc brake conversion kits for 14 bolts? I need something that isnt too spendy.. I seem to remember one company, maybe TSM that had the whole kit, minus rotors for like 250-300.. thats a nice price. I looked somewhere else (can't remember right now) and they wanted 900 bucks for the kit YIKES! Any help on this one? Im curious, because I have a line on a 14 bolt.. if everything pulls through like it should, and it will need brakes, so I want to go disc. Thanks for your help.
Scott :grinpimp:<><

Yep, TSM has a good kit.

I got it on the 14 bolt on my TJ. Good kit.

Here are some pics of mine:
Corp 14 (http://jeep-club.irtech.com/phils_mods/corp14.jpg)
Brakes (http://jeep-club.irtech.com/phils_mods/corp14brake1.jpg)
More brakes (http://jeep-club.irtech.com/phils_mods/Corp14floater.jpg)

HTH,

Phil

Here is ther contact info too:
TSM Co. (The Street-rod Manufacturing Co.)
4321 Willow Creek Rd
Castle Rock, CO 80104-9766
(303) 688-6882
(303) 660-4660 FAX
tsmmfg@aol.com

Phil

TSM is way too proud of their brackets for me. There's a guy over on the ColoradoK5 board who makes the brackets also. You'll need to email him personally if you're interested in his equipment. Here's some pics he sent me:

http://community.webshots.com/user/bhughes85713

Mine were shipped out on Tuesday of this week.

Got pricing? or an email for the guy?
Thanks,
Phil

do a search under h8monday, he did a real nice home job on this axle, maybe he can send you the layout, with a plasma cutter and some steel you can do your own at a real good price
h8monday is a good source of info along with a lot of folks on this board

heh.. i bought these same brackets... havent installed them yet..
im looking at the exact year/model the roters and calipers that are required come off of..

someone said "eldorado brakes" or whatsuch, so i amble on down to my local autozone and tell them i need some eldorado brakes. they say "what year" and hten we stare at each other stupidly. so i get my bracket out of the truck lug it in, and the guy says "WOW thats a big ass wrench"... so i buy some tire-shine, and a case of carb cleaner, and head back out. brackets are still sitting on my shelf.

hehe

I got my brackets, stainless spacers and mounting bolts for $100 with shipping. Dunno if price is same, higher, or lower tho.
His email is

bill@a-tron.net

Had a package sitting at the end of the driveway when I got home today (I live out in the country).
Ok. These boys are set-up for the 76 - 78 Caddy Eldorado rear calipers (if you want the e-brake) or late 70's 3/4-ton front GM calipers (no e-brake). You can run the late 70's 3/4-ton front rotors also.

There's some pics here.

http://www.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/ecom/tracker.pl?r=ss15&url=members6.clubphoto.com/chuck392288/552501/guest.phtml

make your own? use 3/4 ton baking plates, 60 or 3/4 ton rotors and make you a space that will bolt to the flange very simple and can be done for very very cheap same idea as all the store bought kits

I got a question, does it matter if the 14 bolt is full floating or semi-floating? all the kits I see out there stipulate that it is for a full floating 14 bolt. It shouldn't matter should it?

it matters in terms of axle standout or how far the axle protrudes from the axle housing , the only thing that would remain unchanged is the rotor:D :D

some one is selling a kit on the axlesnappers board but it doesn't seem to be working now.:mad:so i don't know the price.

Its not very tough to make your own.
I borrowed a Plain Jane run of the mill Chevy Caliper bracket from Grady, to make templates, and rented a plasma cutter for a day, and made the brackets along with a bunch of other brackets I needed to fab, The plasma was actually loaned for free, from United Rents, in return for running their stickers at CalRocs, but $65 a day can get a lot of bracketry cut, if you decide to do your own.
I had to grind off the drum brake brackets and relocate them due to the dually configuration, but on most 14 bolts you should be able to bolt or weld right to the drum brake bracket.
Here is a pic of the massive drums, they must wiegh 150lb or more.
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-588342-MVC-021S.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-588348-MVC-023S.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-588346-MVC-017S.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-588344-MVC-003S14B.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-588345-MVC-010S14B.JPG

Jeff,
Looks really really good.. I could get access to a plasma cutter, but its the fabrication skills I lack. I heard TSM has a kit thats in the 200-300 dollar range that includes everything but rotors.. or somethung to that effect.. anyone know what I am talking about?
Scott :grinpimp:<><

Originally posted by 1badjeep
Jeff,
Looks really really good.. I could get access to a plasma cutter, but its the fabrication skills I lack. I heard TSM has a kit thats in the 200-300 dollar range that includes everything but rotors.. or somethung to that effect.. anyone know what I am talking about?
Scott :grinpimp:<><

The kit from TSM includes the rotors, not the calipers. I bought new rotors from Auto Zone in the $30 range, bought all new seals and bearings for the hubs, and got the bracket kit from Bill for the price TSM wants. Either way, you still have to supply either 3/4-ton front or the Caddy rear calipers.

is my 14 bolt full floating or semi floating?

Originally posted by thenodnarb
is my 14 bolt full floating or semi floating?

Looks like a full-floater from here! :D :D :D

How can you tell the full floating from semi floating justby looks? And is a factory GOV lock a full locker of posi?

Jeremy

Originally posted by bullfrog
How can you tell the full floating from semi floating justby looks? And is a factory GOV lock a full locker of posi?

Jeremy
Maybe because full floater refears to the fact that the weight of the vehical rides on a spindle and not an axle bearing. :flipoff2:

BRANDON!
This is Scott.. you know, the guy from School LOL... yes that 14 bolt is a full floater....
Scott :grinpimp:<><

emsoffroad,
I'm not sure what the whole
:flipoff2: was about, I was asking how you can tell a full floater by looks because I will soon be looking myself.

Jeremy

Originally posted by bullfrog
emsoffroad,
I'm not sure what the whole
:flipoff2: was about, I was asking how you can tell a full floater by looks because I will soon be looking myself.

Jeremy

If you see the end of the axle and it looks like the pic that thenodnarb posted above, it's a full-floater. The gov-loc from GM is a posi-style. Try to stay away from this carrier if you're wanting to install a Detroit - you'll have to buy a new carrier $$$$ if you do. I wasn't really concerned with mine as I'll be "lincoln locking" mine - don't like the side-effects of the Detroit and apparently nobody make a spool for one. :jeep: :usa:

Originally posted by bullfrog
How can you tell the full floating from semi floating justby looks? And is a factory GOV lock a full locker of posi?

Jeremy

If it has drive flanges like the picture above then it is a full floater. The Gov-lock acts like a posi up to a point and then locks all the way. You can feel it lock and it does provide good traction. It's a good diff for a stock truck but is complicated and will most likely grenade under severe use with big tires.

Thanks for the info. I also plan on "lincoln locking" since I have had great results with this in the past. Also I was curious if 15" wheels will fit over the drums or discs (after conversion) and what backspacing would be necessary. I plan on running 38" x 12.5" TSL SX with beadlock rims. Thanks.

Jeremy

Originally posted by bullfrog
Thanks for the info. I also plan on "lincoln locking" since I have had great results with this in the past. Also I was curious if 15" wheels will fit over the drums or discs (after conversion) and what backspacing would be necessary. I plan on running 38" x 12.5" TSL SX with beadlock rims. Thanks.

Jeremy A standard 15" wheel will fit over it with the disc conversion however you will need to grind on the caliper a little. I am in the process of putting disc on my 60 right now, and that's what I'm doing.

I heard that you need to run 16.5 wheels with the 14 bolt drums. thats why I plan on converting to disc. outlaw, did you have to "grind the caliper" to fit your wheels?

Originally posted by emsoffroad

Maybe because full floater refears to the fact that the weight of the vehical rides on a spindle and not an axle bearing. :flipoff2:
whats up scott. you getting tony's 14 bolt?

Originally posted by thenodnarb

whats up scott. you getting tony's 14 bolt?
Its a distinct possibility, since he's decided he doesnt want it anymore.. what I think is going to happen is, since Nate still owes me 200 for the D44 he never gave me, Im going to email him and get his 14 bolt, then trade tony, since tony's is for a dually and not as wide, then tony can sell the 14 bolt of nates on ebay.. :)
Scott :grinpimp:<><

Originally posted by thenodnarb
I heard that you need to run 16.5 wheels with the 14 bolt drums. thats why I plan on converting to disc. outlaw, did you have to "grind the caliper" to fit your wheels?


you heard wrong:D 15's will fit....ask me how i know.

Originally posted by 1badjeep

Its a distinct possibility, since he's decided he doesnt want it anymore.. what I think is going to happen is, since Nate still owes me 200 for the D44 he never gave me, Im going to email him and get his 14 bolt, then trade tony, since tony's is for a dually and not as wide, then tony can sell the 14 bolt of nates on ebay.. :)
Scott :grinpimp:<><
why doesn't tony want it? is he getting rid of anything on the jeep? whats the next goal? Can I have his power welder since he's got the arc?(well i'll ask HIM that)

the man above needs a 14 bolt. the man below does not want one.

Originally posted by thenodnarb

why doesn't tony want it? is he getting rid of anything on the jeep? whats the next goal? Can I have his power welder since he's got the arc?(well i'll ask HIM that)
I dont know what tony is getting rid of on his jeep.. I know he is in the process of doing a hydro assist steering on red right now.. as we speak, But last I heard, he found somewhere where he can get 2.5 ton rockwells for 450 each! 900 fo rthe pair with front and rear steer, and somethinglike a 7.17 reduction.. ridiculous :)
Scott :grinpimp:<><