I do not believe he has a full tube frame on the rig. I was hangin around them in Ceder City and if my memory serves me right he still has part, or all of the original frame, but I could be wrong.

wonderful thread:flipoff2: why am I replying?????????:D
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Welcome Newbie!!!!!

What the Fawk is your question???????????????

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like overhearing a conversation between strangers......:D

Hey what did I miss, what are you guys talking about? I want in...:flipoff2:

I think he's talking about the OD green 'zuki that's in Peterson's Top 10 for the year..... I guess he hit POST instead of REPLY?;)

But since we're here, I'll throw in a picture of my rig with my new tires!:D

Looks clean, are those 35's? :D

Thanks! They're 33's on 15x8's.

This summer was rough on the sheetmetal.... but the doors still fit!

does that door bar bother you at all? Looks like it's right in F'n way.

<font color="yellow">Hey Chris, you said you were gettin new tires when we were up at LBL - but I didn't know you meant right away!

I've got a few pics of you guys up at LBL when we were there, they're <a href="http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ecmills/trails/10-27-01/">here</a>.

I have about 10 more pics of you trying that off-camber wash and some more of your group that I haven't scanned yet, I'll go ahead and send em to you if you'd like.

Just curious, have you wheeled the MT/Rs much yet? I was wondering what your impression of them vs. the 32" SXs was, since I currently have the 33" MT/R and am looking to go to a 36-37" tire for offroad use.

Had them in mud yet? Let me know if they have the same problems excaping ruts in a light Zuk as they do on a Yota.</font>

Fatkid, yeah, the door bar ended up being a little higher than I expected. I messed up when I welded in the bar behind the seats, it should have been about 2" lower. So when I tied in the door bars, they ended up high. In retrospect, I guess I should have put a bend in them to make entry/exit easier.... but it makes you feel nice and protected when you sit in there. Plus, the bar makes a good armrest.;)

Evan, I priced the SX's to one of the guys that was with us at LBL, thinking my price was high and he wouldn't want them..... wrong, he bought 'em. :eek:

I've only had the MTR's off-road once, that was on the dirt piles in the picture. I was able to go one place that I couldn't go with the SX's, because of the extra clearance under the frame. On moist dirt, they do great. I'll let ya know how they do in rocks and mud as soon as I get to Tellico again. I can see already, the three ply sidewall in gonna flex MUCH better on a light weight Zuk. The SX's are stiff(6-ply), and I had to air down to 3-4 psi to get them to work. 10 psi gets the MTR's flexing. I would love to see those pictures! I'll try that wash again now that I have more clearance under the axles!

I hear ya, it happens.:)

Originally posted by CSR
Evan,

I would love to see those pictures! I'll try that wash again now that I have more clearance under the axles!
<font color="yellow">I'll try and get them scanned for you tomorrow. They turned out really well.

Did you stip climbing the wash cause it was high centered? I thought you were rubbing against the left wall too much to power up it any higher. Was I wrong?

I wish I'd known you wanted MT/Rs that badly - I'll be selling mine for $125-ish per tire in about a month after the SAS.

Did all of the guys you wheeled with end up running out and buying lockers? :D:D:D</font>

Are MT-R's worth the cash? I think they cost as much as Boggers, or close.

are BFG's,got my 35 mtr's for $156.........:D don't how the work yet they are sitting with the other gathered parts:D

Really, I thought 35" MT-R's went for about $196.00 a tire. Sounds like you have a hook up.

Evan, you're right, I did get into the left wall of that wash with my roll cage. The hill to the left of washed out one was where I kept getting high-centered.

Did all of the guys you wheeled with end up running out and buying lockers?

One guy got home and pulled his 1.3L and started a 2.8/c4 swap, and Jerry (in the other silver Zuk) finally put his front locker in.;)

Fatkid, I paid $149 for my 33" MT/R's. Got 'em at tirerack.com

Originally posted by fatkid
Are MT-R's worth the cash? I think they cost as much as Boggers, or close.
The <a href="http://www.tirerack.com" target="new">Tire Rack</a> has MT/Rs in 33s & 35s for $150-ish per tire. I went down to 4Wheelparts and had my friend (their asst. manager) match the price so I didn't have to pay to ship them... but they'd still be chaper than buying them from goodyear or 4 W. P. at $190+ per tire.

That puts them in BFG country, pricewise, but they're a much better tire. I used to run BFG MTs, and will never go back. The MT/R cleans much better than the BFGs did, and as far as rock traction, there's no contest.

Two of the guys I wheel with run 35/14.50 boggers, and they spin on rock (with 2 lockers) in places I don't (open front). They do as well as any other 12.50 MT in sand, really. I'd say the rubber is at least as good as a Radial swamper, or SSR appears to be. But I don't get to play on rock much down south here.

As far as wear, I bought mine used from a friend. He had them on his 370HP K5 with a detroit in the back, daily driven, for 14 months. Still had 95% tread. I'd say mine have 90% tread, and they are almost 2 years old now.

Noise-wise, they're louder than BFGs, but not by much. They sound exactly like a Semi does when you pass it on the interstate. (Just the tire noise part). You know, that rapid wubwubwubwubwub noise?

My only dislike with them is muddy ruts. I had a set of buckshots before. With those skinny tires with bias-type sidewall lugs, you could crank one to full lock in the rut of a 12.50, and the sidewall lugs would chew right out. With MT/Rs, the sidwall tread (not lugs) will slide for a few feet, then just POP my Yota out of the ruts - unnerving when you're door is against a tree at the time. I have the dent to prove it.

I have also bounced the rear tires off of countless trees and rocks (You get really good at that with an un-bobbed Yota - it keeps my long-ass 4runner's taillights intact) without so much as nicking the sidewalls - although they're by no means as strong as a Bias tire. The only cuts I have are on the tread itsself from old day's "open diffs, gun-it-up-the-rocky-hillclimb" maneuvers.

Sorry I was so long-winded... but basically what I'm saying is that if you drive your rig daily, you'll love MT/Rs. Personally I'm all about the swampers, but I had to drive it every day, so I went MT/Rs. If it's not a mud bogger, and it is daily driver, they're my personal choice.

Huh-uh huh huh..... Kevin is the Ass Manager.

What's up with all these friggin' pop-up on my monitor? :mad:

In Interent Explorer, go to:
Tools
Internet Options
Security Tab
Custom Level...
Toward the bottom: Active Scripting
Choose Disable
Viola! No more pop-ups. Of course, you may need to set it back if you're in hotmail or something, when you're doing something thats SUPPOSED to create a new window or something.

Now that you're pop-up free, <font color="red">hold down the SHIFT key and click the far-left edge of the banner at the top of the screen about 2 dozen times.</font> This will pop up a bunch of ad's in new windows, giving us a better click-through rate. If it gets high enough from just the banner ads, Lance said he'll diable the pop-up ones and just go with those. So don't click on the pop-ups, just the banner ads.

Try and stop every twenty minutes or so on here and do that to help him out. :D

Originally posted by Yota_San
In Interent Explorer, go to:
Tools
Internet Options
Security Tab
Custom Level...
Toward the bottom: Active Scripting
Choose Disable
Viola! No more pop-ups.

Try and stop every twenty minutes or so on here and do that to help him out. :D

Thanks for the tip on pop ups!
Newbie movin-up!