Does anyone out there have any info that might help me. I am lookin for info on doing a swap from a carb. 454 to a Chevy 6.5L Turbo Diesel. Thanks in advance.

Yes. Don't do it. Put in a real diesel or keep it gas.

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Pete

What do you mean by a real diesel? And what does fawking newbie mean???????

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Ok you guys are real cool. How about fawking rock god, or fawking wheeler. I don't care. Thanks a lot guys. At least I know I have better things to do than sit around on my computer all day.

Originally posted by medic2397
Ok you guys are real cool. How about fawking rock god, or fawking wheeler. I don't care. Thanks a lot guys. At least I know I have better things to do than sit around on my computer all day.

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Originally posted by medic2397
What do you mean by a real diesel?

I meant the 6.5 isn't worth swapping in. If you're gonna go to the trouble, go with a Cummins or Powerstroke. The Cummins would be my choice, I think its a better motor plus its an easier swap (12 valve).

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Pete

This conversation has been done hundreds of times over, but the facts never change.

1) GM royally screwed their diesel reputation with the introduction of the 5.7L Olds gas conversion diesel.

2) The 6.2L was designed ground-up by Detroit Diesel, and manufactured by GM. The 6.5L is simply an upgrade from that design.

3) If the 6.5L were equipped the way the 24V Cummins or PSD are factory (compression ratio, intercooler, turbo, etc.), then the 6.5L is just as mean a beast as the "real diesels." See 300+ hp 6.5TD (http://www.thedieselpage.com/finale.htm) for more details.

If your swap is to a GM blazer, suburban, or P/U, then the 6.5L is by far the easiest swap. But, it is still not a bolt in matter. You will need to fine a donor vehicle of the same year, and take off the diesel wiring harness and all necessary brackets. There are far more details than this, and a swap like this one is very detail oriented. Look around on thedieselpage.com and you'll find a wealth of information.

The Detroit Diesels have great low torque end and shine on and off road. A turbo will only make your diesel better. Good luck!

I hope this helps,

might check into the 62-65-dieselpage.com site.
it has alot of info on the 6.2/6.5.

Dieselboy,
Thank you so much, i've been looking everywhere. Now a couple of questions for you, first, is the 6.5 designed by Detroit? Doesn't the 6.5 have a turbo on it? BTW, I will be swapping into an 86 One ton dually. Also, I drive the PSD at work, and let me tell you, not impressed at all. I personally think that if I swap, I would be better off leaving the 454 than putting the PSD in. My father's tow truck has a 454, the trucks I drive here in Rochester, are 97, Ford 350's with PSD's and I would rather have the 454 for power reasons. The PSD can't even compare. Thanks again everyone.

some 6.5 had turbos somedind't mostof our work trucks are turbo 6.5 from what I have learned from the diesel page you will have the a/c and the stock 6.5 turbo trying to take the same space. But a little work on the a/c box should be no problem.

Odee, are you a member there? It seems like i'm having a hard time getting on the forum there. Do you have to pay for it?

You're right, PSD's suck. The only diesel worth swapping in is a Cummins. They are capable of more power and MPG than the others. They're also more reliable and easier to modify (12 valve). I have a friend with a late '70's Chevy 1 ton SRW crew cab with a Cummins swap. He loves it. 19 MPG, 15 towing his pulling truck on a gooseneck.

Another friend has a Furd PSD and when we tow about the same weight (all the toys) he gets 8 MPG and I get 13. He has to downshift on the hills, I don't. He has 4.10's, I have 3.54's. That was before I recently turned up the power on my Cummins. Can't offer a comparison to the 6.5, nobody I know wants anything to do with 'em. And I'm a Chevy man, or at least was until I drove a Cummins...:eek: Still all Chevy in my Heep.

Honestly, the only good diesel that comes in pickups is the Cummins IMHO.

Postal, would it be possible to get more info from your buddy with the cummins in his C/K. I would really really appreciate it, it sounds rather unanimous that the cummins is the way to go. I still want to look into the 6.5 due to the fact that it will be somewhat easier and cheaper to swap since it will bolt up to a 90 degree bolt pattern tranny. Thanks in advance.

yes it is a pay site. There is a bunch of valuable info there. I have gotten my moneys worth from it. The 6.5 will bolt to the old motor mounts in the truck. It isn't a bad job to do.

I was thinking about the samething but after looking into it more it looks like it would be a basterdized truck. you have to change a lot of electrical, cooling even the power brakes are not the same. With everyone rushing out to spend their money on the new Duramax you can now find a 6.5L diesel truck for cheap. try to find one that has not been hopped up with performance crap or your getting someones hot rod that they have beat the hell out of. I got mine and it was all stock and complete! Needed some cleaning but turned out nice after two months of work. The 6.5 has more power then a stock 5.7 gaser and gets about 17 mpg @ 70-80 mpg. whith all the doging that everyone does about the 6.5 I am very suprized at how good it realy is. http://pics.tdiclub.com/members/ArizonaMike/94DCcab/b4.jpg http://pics.tdiclub.com/members/ArizonaMike/94DCcab/onbridge.JPG

Originally posted by medic2397
Postal, would it be possible to get more info from your buddy with the cummins in his C/K. I would really really appreciate it, it sounds rather unanimous that the cummins is the way to go. I still want to look into the 6.5 due to the fact that it will be somewhat easier and cheaper to swap since it will bolt up to a 90 degree bolt pattern tranny. Thanks in advance.

I'll tell you what I know, and you can ask me more if you want and I'll ask him.

He swapped in the complete engine/trans/transfer from a Dodge. It was a first gen donor truck ('89-'93) with a Getrag 5 speed and NP205. He is using the Dana 60 and 14 bolt that came in the Chevy. He has mentioned that there is room for either an intercooler or the A/C condenser - not both, your choice, performance or comfort. :question: :D

So how water-resistant it the 6.5L turbo-diesel? I wanna know 'coz this happens to me every now and then:
http://www.pbase.com/image/15908452
Here my engine died 'coz the f***-up distributor got drowned.

Thanks.