: Gawd Damn Speaker Wires


Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 06:28 AM
So we just finished (almost) moving the living room out to where it's supposed to be in preperation for the baby, and now I need to wire the surround system:(

This is gonna suck. Any of you wanna come over and gimme a hand, I got beer:D

Rip DeLips
03-10-2003, 06:44 AM
Did somebody say 'beer'?

Bobzooki
03-10-2003, 07:15 AM
I'd love to Eric.

Umm, but Mrs. BZ sez I gotta work this week so we can pay the bills... Oh well...

:D

ITS PAT
03-10-2003, 08:47 AM
id help you in a second brother. i can also deliver that cage one of these days

Priest
03-10-2003, 08:51 AM
You puss... there's only like 10 wires there. Week before last I spent 50hrs rewiring this (this is only the bottom half)

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Priest
You puss... there's only like 10 wires there. Week before last I spent 50hrs rewiring this (this is only the bottom half)

Holy crap, I almost passed out when I saw that:eek:

I hate wires, and worse yet, I hate when you can see the wires.

Hef
03-10-2003, 09:02 AM
Get a drill and 3/4" bit, drill through the top plate of the walls from in the attic. drop the wire down between the studs with some slack. Install wall jacks between the studs and you'll be able to do most of your wire runs in the attic, instead of in the room.

Just a thought. ;)

Hef

Priest
03-10-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


Holy crap, I almost passed out when I saw that:eek:



That makes two of us. The installers just couldn't understand why the customer was upset I mean the system was mostly functional :rolleyes: . I ended up running 850' of coax cable all inside of one 7' tall equipment cabinet.

Anyway, zip ties and double sided velcro are you friends when dressing out wiring. Also, a little trick that I use which makes things look real nice is old telephone handset cords. Get a couple and chop them up into 2" lengths. Then you can wrap the pieces around small bundles of wires to keep them neat.

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 09:22 AM
Well I got the speakers up on the wall pretty nicely;)

Hef
03-10-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog
And I hit up Home Depot first thing in the morning for a bunch of this stuff to run the wires in.

wrong pic dude.:D

Hef

Josh83
03-10-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Well I got the speakers up on the wall pretty nicely;)

Cukoo clock! We have one that belonged to my great grandmother. I can't wait to hang it in my house some day.

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Hef


wrong pic dude.:D

Hef
Here's the right one :emb:

Hef
03-10-2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog

Here's the right one :emb:


Those work well. Be sure to route your speaker wires as far from any power supplies or wiring that you can to avoid noise.;)

Hef

ForestCam
03-10-2003, 10:34 AM
You'd love my buddy's speaker wires, 1/2" Monster cables. Fawkers look like jumper cables and only $1500 a set!:eek:

Co Pilot
03-10-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by ITS PAT
id help you in a second brother. i can also deliver that cage one of these days

Hey Pat... Phildo is coming out tonight.. hitch a ride w/ him ;)

we got dinner & beer for ya :D

Roxywheels
03-10-2003, 10:53 AM
I wanna see the new furniture dammit! :D :roxy:

Co Pilot
03-10-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Roxywheels
I wanna see the new furniture dammit! :D :roxy:

its purdy!! :bounce: and BIG! :eek:

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Roxywheels
I wanna see the new furniture dammit! :D :roxy:

Here you go;)

Priest
03-10-2003, 10:58 AM
Another quick tip. If you have extra wire it is always best to trim it off. You should never "coil" up your excess wire as it can act as an antenna and introduce inductive noise into the system.

Co Pilot
03-10-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


Here you go;)

wow... its doesnt look so big in the pics!! :D

Roxywheels
03-10-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


Here you go;)

Ohhhhhhhhhh.....pretty!!!!! :bounce: Is it really dark green or gray? And where is the call box? :( :D :roxy:

Priest
03-10-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Co Pilot


wow... its doesnt look so big in the pics!! :D


If you only knew how many times I have heard that...... :(























:flipoff2:

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Priest
Another quick tip. If you have extra wire it is always best to trim it off. You should never "coil" up your excess wire as it can act as an antenna and introduce inductive noise into the system.

Really:confused: I was told that all the cable needed to be the same length, that's the reason for the coils:confused:

Hef
03-10-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


Really:confused: I was told that all the cable needed to be the same length, that's the reason for the coils:confused:


all electrical conductors have a magnetic field. When 2 fields are close enough they can effect each other. Not a problem for power but a problem for a/c signals, like audio or video.

Hef

Co Pilot
03-10-2003, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Roxywheels


Ohhhhhhhhhh.....pretty!!!!! :bounce: Is it really dark green or gray? And where is the call box? :( :D :roxy:

they look dark in the pic, its actually a light olive green color.. and the room is too pretty now to put the call box back up ;)

SHERPA
03-10-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by ForestCam
You'd love my buddy's speaker wires, 1/2" Monster cables. Fawkers look like jumper cables and only $1500 a set!:eek:

$1,500--?? that's nothing.

there's a guy I work with who has 13G's in CABLING alone for

his home theater system...............................


--I told him I don't think you could tell the difference, he says

you can. maybe I have a tin ear.....

--Sherpa

Po' riggity
03-10-2003, 11:17 AM
Eric,
If only I'd seen this sooner, you know I woulda been down to give you a hand, especially for free beer :D Looks good bro.
Scott

Priest
03-10-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


Really:confused: I was told that all the cable needed to be the same length, that's the reason for the coils:confused:


Ok, while theoretically yes they should all be the same length in a home enviorment the runs are so short that having different cable lengths won't be noticable (atinuation won't be a factor). Now if you had one cable that was 1' and one that was 1000' then yes it would be a whole different story. Anything that you are going to gain by keeping your cable runs equal length you are going to loose and then some by having the cable coiled up. If you have one cable that is 5' and one that is 25' there isn't going to be a noticable difference (if you put the signals on a scope you might be able to see the difference) as long as all the wire is of equal quality.

I don't typically deal with audio stuff, I usually deal with video but all the same theories still apply.

HighToy
03-10-2003, 12:25 PM
What did you use to mount the speakers in the corners? My rear speakers look to be about the same size as yours and I really don't want to use one of those corner shelves.

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by HighToy
What did you use to mount the speakers in the corners? My rear speakers look to be about the same size as yours and I really don't want to use one of those corner shelves.

I just used one of those little plastic anchors and a pan head screw;)

HighToy
03-10-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog


I just used one of those little plastic anchors and a pan head screw;)

ok.. it looks like it's at an angle, not flush with the wall. Thanks.

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 12:33 PM
Here it is on the wall.

Mustard Dog
03-10-2003, 12:34 PM
And here's the back of the speakers;)

HighToy
03-10-2003, 12:38 PM
Even better. Mine have those on the back to. I think I am just going to use an eye hook and some small chain to mount them. I want them to point down into the center of the room to widen out the sound. Luckily for me I am on a raised foundation and have most of my cables/wires either in the attic or under the house.

Thanks for the pics.

Desert Jeepin
03-11-2003, 12:18 AM
Hey, Install is done. And I'm home at just past 12. Not bad eh?:flipoff2:

Roxywheels
03-11-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Desert Jeepin
Hey, Install is done. And I'm home at just past 12. Not bad eh?:flipoff2:

What was for dinner? :D :roxy:

Desert Jeepin
03-11-2003, 12:22 AM
It was these kick ass fried taco thingies.

Roxywheels
03-11-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Desert Jeepin
It was these kick ass fried taco thingies.

mmmmmmm.....good :D :roxy:

Mustard Dog
03-11-2003, 06:24 AM
Thanks a lot Phil, it sounds great:D :D

Welby
03-11-2003, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by SHERPA


$1,500--?? that's nothing.

there's a guy I work with who has 13G's in CABLING alone for

his home theater system...............................


--I told him I don't think you could tell the difference, he says

you can. maybe I have a tin ear.....

--Sherpa

I'm sure there is a slight difference, but $13,000 worth, I don't think so :D

Audophiles are a strange/sick breed, lol. Myself, as long as is cranks up clear and loud, I'm happy.