: New ATM


Priest
03-11-2003, 09:34 AM
This will probably bore the hell out of most of you but here it is anyway.

The folks I work for released a new ATM (http://www.diebold.com/solutions/atms/opteva/) today. It's pretty cool stuff and you'll be seeing them soon as we already have a lot of major banks asking for them. Alot of pretty neat features: Web capability, multicolor printers, advanced audio and video capablity (DVD capable), 5 high dispenser gives it a $300K compacity, voice guidance for visually impared people, blah, blah, blah.

Just thought I share!

Co Pilot
03-11-2003, 09:36 AM
can you pleeeeeeease sell a couple of those to Wells Fargo. The ATM up the street here is broke more than it is working :mad:

thank you :D

Oxjockey
03-11-2003, 09:37 AM
Great, now our terminal fees can be $5 instead of $1-$2.

But it sounds neat. :D

Mustard Dog
03-11-2003, 09:39 AM
Is it just me, or have any of you noticed the dumbing down of the vocabulary in those machines:confused:

"Withdrawl?" is now "Get Cash", and it gets worse:rolleyes:

ChiXJeff
03-11-2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Co Pilot
can you pleeeeeeease sell a couple of those to Wells Fargo. The ATM up the street here is broke more than it is working :mad:

thank you :D

These things run WinXP. You sure you want that?

And Priest? If you ever find the guys who designed your website, run them the heck over. GAWDDAMN Flash garbage.

ChiXJeff

LAME
03-11-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Is it just me, or have any of you noticed the dumbing down of the vocabulary in those machines:confused:

"Withdrawl?" is now "Get Cash", and it gets worse:rolleyes:

They have to dumb instructions from a 10th grade level to a 5th for most things lately.:rolleyes: Fing retards.

Entropy
03-11-2003, 09:46 AM
My first thought was Asynchronous Transfer Mode... Oops...

:D

Welby
03-11-2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Is it just me, or have any of you noticed the dumbing down of the vocabulary in those machines:confused:

"Withdrawl?" is now "Get Cash", and it gets worse:rolleyes:

Reminds me of the movie Kingpin:

Bill Murray: "Do you want some supplemental income?"

Woody: "Supplemental income??"

Bill Murray: "Yes, supplemental income"

Woody: "Supplemental??"

Bill Murray: "Extra...It means EXTRA...Do you want to make some extra money??!!!"

:D

sceep
03-11-2003, 09:48 AM
WhyTF do they need color printers and dvd capability? :confused:

Priest
03-11-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by sceep
WhyTF do they need color printers and dvd capability? :confused:


So you can have advertisments printed on your receipt in color. DVD is for software loading reasons.

Priest
03-11-2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Entropy
My first thought was Asynchronous Transfer Mode... Oops...

:D


That's damn funny because my title at one time was SE Datacom and I worked heavily with ATM networks.... I used to get a lot of intersting mail because of it.


The first time I heard ATM network I thought the same thing

Welby
03-11-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Priest



So you can have advertisments printed on your receipt in color. DVD is for software loading reasons.

Just what we need, more fawking advertisements...

Tell you what, I see an ad on my gawd damned ATM receipt, and I'll make a point to not buy that product.

YellowSub1962
03-11-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Priest



So you can have advertisments printed on your receipt in color.


great now we get spammed at the ATM too


what a waste of resources...


:usa:

YotaRunner
03-11-2003, 09:55 AM
Web capability, multicolor printers, advanced audio and video capablity (DVD capable), 5 high dispenser gives it a $300K compacity.

I'm standing outside my bank, right?
So now I can pop in a DVD, check the PBB, Print some 35%, all while getting my $20 to go to the bar..... Is all that really necessary???

fj40guy
03-11-2003, 09:56 AM
I was going to tease and comment "as long as it isn't a Diebold!" Uh oh... :eek:

My bro worked for a while in Central California doing the service on them. Funny as hell what some people do when the machine is "out of order" to them (hmm, then wonder why it takes so long to get back in service.)

Funniest was watch "Cliff" (actor from Cheers) walk up to a machine. Machine is slide back, but that slot is still there. He pushed he ATM card into asking "where is my money". I got to admit we were rolling in laughter with his stand up routine. Oh, I was outside of the machine... while bro was in the back.

My brother, the comedian, did have some fun. Lady walks up to the machine, gets her cash and reciept, and said "Thank You" to the machine. Bro answered "YOU'RE WELCOME, have a nice day". She kept trying to tell her friend "it talked to me". :rolleyes:

Tom :usa:

Priest
03-11-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by ChiXJeff


These things run WinXP. You sure you want that?

And Priest? If you ever find the guys who designed your website, run them the heck over. GAWDDAMN Flash garbage.

ChiXJeff


XP beats the hell out of the machines I beta tested that were running Win 98 :eek:. I don't really agree with their decission to run a Win based OS, I personally would have rather seen something based on a Linix/Unix platform. All of our currently line of machines run OS2 which is a good OS but since IBM dropped it we had to go with something else.


Yes, the web gods that work here couldn't design a decent website if their lives depended on it.


As far as dumbing down the language yes, it's scarry. Of course that is all decided by the customer but it's sad. Ultimately most people don't care what the screen says they just want their $40. I was working on a machine once in a grocery store and had the entire display removed but the machine was still powered up and online. I had my back truned and a guy walked up, put his card in and got a quick cash without it even having a monitor in it.

Priest
03-11-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by YellowSub1962



great now we get spammed at the ATM too


what a waste of resources...


:usa:


I completely agree with you guys but, it's what the customers want. For along time we have had customers that will load one of the cassettes with coupons instead of cash and program the network to have the machine kick out a coupon on every transaction. :rolleyes:


It's no different that when the grocery store prints crap on your reciept.

jdjanda
03-11-2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Priest
........5 high dispenser gives it a $300K compacity......


Hey I lost my keys to a couple of the ATM machines I uhm em 'own' can I call you up and get a new set :p

Welby
03-11-2003, 10:08 AM
........5 high dispenser gives it a $300K compacity......

Awesome, more videos of rednecks on COPS driving their '79 Ford Pickups through a wall in an attempt to steal the whole damned machine!!! :bounce: :bounce2:

Priest
03-11-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by jdjanda


Hey I lost my keys to a couple of the ATM machines I uhm em 'own' can I call you up and get a new set :p

No keys sorry! Electronic combo locks that use an algorithym and a random number generator so you have to call for a new combo everytime you want to open the chest. :D

Priest
03-11-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Welby


Awesome, more videos of rednecks on COPS driving their '79 Ford Pickups through a wall in an attempt to steal the whole damned machine!!! :bounce: :bounce2:

Actually it's not that much more than current machines which have a $240K compacity but they are rarely completely full. Average machine probably has between $100-150K in it.

JeepinIan
03-11-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Is it just me, or have any of you noticed the dumbing down of the vocabulary in those machines:confused:

"Withdrawl?" is now "Get Cash", and it gets worse:rolleyes:

What do you expect when a person now has to get to college before they have to learn to read? It seems that 1/2 th ehigh school grads down here still can't read @ what I consider a 3rd grade level, and don't know how to add 2 + 2.

tunaonastick
06-08-2003, 08:24 AM
how`bout the maintenance pwds for tcs plus v1.1.0:flipoff2:

tunaonastick
06-08-2003, 08:24 AM
how`bout the maintenance pwds for tcs plus v1.1.0

TexasBlake
06-08-2003, 08:37 AM
so now they are going to have all these features, and the line is going to be lon as hell because someone is gonna sit on the internet for an hour.

ForestCam
06-08-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Welby


Just what we need, more fawking advertisements...

Tell you what, I see an ad on my gawd damned ATM receipt, and I'll make a point to not buy that product.



You guys still get an actual paper receipt from your ATMs? Hell I haven't printed one of those off in a couple of years. I just it shown the screen.

Mo
06-08-2003, 08:44 AM
you need to clutter up the waste slot on the machine with something.... used snotrags just seems gross, so I use those receipts.

Insayn
06-08-2003, 09:52 AM
That's going to cause you to spend more time at an ATM and get jacked by a robber.

Belly Dragger
06-08-2003, 10:19 AM
Maybe ELF will get wind of this gross waste of time and paper and burn down banks.

Well one could always hope. :D

mike
06-08-2003, 10:22 AM
my biggest bitch is that being charged for using ATM's is a crock. You're just being charged to save the bank money. Then again, anytime I call the bank my wife picked now it costs me $2 even when it's to fix their screwup :rolleyes:

Entropy
06-08-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by tunaonastick
how`bout the maintenance pwds for tcs plus v1.1.0:flipoff2:

A newbie double posts to bring a post back from a three month vacation in limbo and no one comments on it for another 5 or 6 posts?

Ugh... we are all doomed.

FYRMAN
06-08-2003, 10:58 AM
If they are advertising on my ATM receipt, I don't want to pay the $1.50 transaction fee. Let the advertisers pay it for me.

Priest
06-08-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by tunaonastick
how`bout the maintenance pwds for tcs plus v1.1.0:flipoff2:


Sounds like someone else is in the biz. Besides.... maintenance passwords get changed depending on the customer :flipoff2:

Priest
06-08-2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by mike
my biggest bitch is that being charged for using ATM's is a crock. You're just being charged to save the bank money. Then again, anytime I call the bank my wife picked now it costs me $2 even when it's to fix their screwup :rolleyes:



Just an FYI. For most full service branch machines it costs the bank $.50 - .70 per transaction for every non-customer transaction. It usually costs around $.25 for each customer transaction. Yes, they are making money but not as much as most people think.

Joe_W
06-08-2003, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Priest



Sounds like someone else is in the biz. Besides.... maintenance passwords get changed depending on the customer :flipoff2:

I never had pleasure of working on our companies ATM's..became a field tech shortly after we sold that business (I believe to you guys)

Priest
06-08-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Joe_W


I never had pleasure of working on our companies ATM's..became a field tech shortly after we sold that business (I believe to you guys)


What company was it?

mike
06-08-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Priest




Just an FYI. For most full service branch machines it costs the bank $.50 - .70 per transaction for every non-customer transaction. It usually costs around $.25 for each customer transaction. Yes, they are making money but not as much as most people think.

So you're saying they're only making a buck thirty to buck fifty every time I walk up to a non-customer ATM. Yep, thats a considerable amount of money

Joe_W
06-08-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Priest



What company was it?

IBM

DRM
06-08-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by mike


So you're saying they're only making a buck thirty to buck fifty every time I walk up to a non-customer ATM. Yep, thats a considerable amount of money


Stop whining.

They are offering you a SERVICE.
They charge what the market will bear for that SERVICE.
If you are not happy with that SERVICE, stop using and paying for it.

Sheesh :shaking:

mike
06-08-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by DRM



Stop whining.

They are offering you a SERVICE.
They charge what the market will bear for that SERVICE.
If you are not happy with that SERVICE, stop using and paying for it.

Sheesh :shaking:


David, most people dont realize the bank saves money each time you walk in and use their ATM rather than a human teller. That was my point. Or we can talk about what it costs to process a check compared to the service charge you pay for using your ATM card at a POS. OF course the banking industry wants people tho think like you are. However since you're whining about people whining, stop it. It's been lovely witnessing your wit as always ;)

ForestCam
06-08-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by mike



David, most people dont realize the bank saves money each time you walk in and use their ATM rather than a human teller. That was my point. Or we can talk about what it costs to process a check compared to the service charge you pay for using your ATM card at a POS. OF course the banking industry wants people tho think like you are. However since you're whining about people whining, stop it. It's been lovely witnessing your wit as always ;)

Hell I should be saving my credit union TONS! I haven't been into a branch office in over 8 months since I got direct deposit.:D

tunaonastick
06-09-2003, 08:58 AM
:D sorry 'bout the double post (thats why they call me newbee)
and the passwords are for the windows 2000 version of tcs.
If I cant figure it out I'll probably post the whole suite ona newsgroup for cracking.