I'm looking at getting some sway bar disconnects a friend is selling, but I have a couple questions. My rig is IFS if that makes a difference, so if you wanna flame me go ahead but also please answer the question :flipoff2:
In off-camber situations, is it easier to roll over with the sway bar on or off? (driviing slowly off-camber).
Another question - my aftermarket bumpstops are like 2.5 inches long, I hit them too often, and my shocks are 3 inches too short, would trimming down the bumpstops and getting longer shocks also help me not roll over in off-camber situations?
Thanks.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :flipoff2:

Crap 15 views and still nobody has an answer... I have a hard time believing that nobody knows the answer to my question so I guess nobody wants to take 10 seconds and help a guy out... Pleez?

in my experience it has nothing to do with the swaybar. Its the IFS that causes more roll overs :flipoff2:

If you take the swaybar off, beware, your truck will behave like a boulder, rolling down every hill it can get too.... I would seriously look at getting a heavy duty unit for the front and probably the rear too... This way the truck stays completely level while flipping... I would hate to see the wheels flexing out in the middle of a rollover, that could possibly break some parts... Hugh

You can get smaller bumpstops and longer shocks to get more "travel" :flipoff2: but you have to remember, the farther up or down your tire goes on IFS, the more of an extreme angle the CV joints are going to be at--thus higher probabillity of breakage

Cool, thanks for the info guys, I will leave the sway bar on since most of the wheeling I do is in the desert hills with lots of off-camber situations.

Nukeiridium

You might be too new to get it, But they were telling you fibs...
except that part about you could bind up the CV joints and break a birfield. That is true.


Here's the deal. Get shocks that fit.

Get the swaybar disconnects. Use them when off roading. Reconnect the sway bar when driveing on the road.

And as a friendly reminder----- Try not to ask such simple questions. Most of the people who surf here get offended by them.

why don't you just take the sway bar off....and drive around on the street a little. Just get a feel for what it's like.

Originally posted by Nukeiridium
I'm looking at getting some sway bar disconnects a friend is selling, but I have a couple questions. My rig is IFS if that makes a difference, so if you wanna flame me go ahead but also please answer the question :flipoff2:
In off-camber situations, is it easier to roll over with the sway bar on or off? (driviing slowly off-camber).
Another question - my aftermarket bumpstops are like 2.5 inches long, I hit them too often, and my shocks are 3 inches too short, would trimming down the bumpstops and getting longer shocks also help me not roll over in off-camber situations?
Thanks.

Ok, now I'm totally confused as to whether taking the sway bar off makes the truck easier to roll over or harder to roll over. So this question is too simple to ask here? Where SHOULD I ask this question? I take it you think it's funny to try to screw up people who are new to the sport. Is that what people did to you when you were new? Is that how you got where you are now, by people laughing at your stupid questions and not wanting to help? You guys must think you're the shit, can I be like you when I grow up?

Easy tiger
Relax, Have a :smokin: and a :beer:

This board has a ton of info on it. However most around here do not like IFS because it does not qualify as "hardcore" or "xtreme" :D
The answer to your question is it all depends! If you have more, softer flex you will probably get more body roll. Which can cause you to roll a bit easier. However, the additional flex can also help you not get into a situation where you are prone to roll (or will get you into more situations because you try harder).
If this is the rig I am thinking about removing your swaybar should help you make it up hills without lifting tires as often. Which will help if you do not have a locker.
But the more you allow the suspension to flex the easier it will be to break your CV joints.

It is trial and error sometimes. See if your friend will let you borrow the disconnects. And do run them disconnected on the street for a while to get used to it. It will surprise you.

IMO IFS does not flex, i would just leave the sway bars on and connected, this is nicer to you IFS parts and is nicer to drive down the street

I've got to agree with "BellyUp" Get them for the road as your daily driver. I don't think I'd ever want to drive daily without them on my Explorer. Way too much body roll. Off-roading though the sway-bars are a "cast" to your flex no matter if you got IFS or solid. They will hold you back. You'll end up lifting the tires and doing a 3point stance rather than feeling some body roll in the cab. Biggest suggestion, take them off and go off-roading. If you like what you feel, get them. If you don't like the feeling, don't get them. :D

Yeah well you guys all have wussy rigs. Can your rigs do this?
http://cleedo.com/climber.jpg
How about this?
http://cleedo.com/sub.jpg
What about this?
http://cleedo.com/fly.jpg
My rig can do all of these! :flipoff2:
http://cleedo.com/kia.jpg

Got me? what am I talking about?

1. Get disconnects and a half dozen 5/8" thick Energy Suspension low-profile bumpstops. Will make a big difference off-road, trust me.

2. There are lots of IFS guys on the board at www.4x4wire.com
Many probably wheel the same kind of rig you have, and will have a lot more advice than the motley lot here.

3. Above all, if/when you roll it be sure to post lots of photos here.

Out.

Originally posted by Nukeiridium
Ok, now I'm totally confused as to whether taking the sway bar off makes the truck easier to roll over or harder to roll over. So this question is too simple to ask here? Where SHOULD I ask this question? I take it you think it's funny to try to screw up people who are new to the sport. Is that what people did to you when you were new? Is that how you got where you are now, by people laughing at your stupid questions and not wanting to help? You guys must think you're the shit, can I be like you when I grow up?


OK i'm in a good mood today, so i'm not gonna flame you for 2 reasons... your asking an honest question and dont seem to be a total moron, and second because i know youve been takin a lot of crap for driving a sportage. BTW i hate the sportage, but it could be taken seriously and because of its construction i respect it a lot more than a lot of other "mini-utes". that said, i'm gonna tell you right now, this is not the board for you yet. this board is for hard core wheelers with experience and basic knowledge. you are a newcomer to the sport and thus need to pay your dues before you will be taken seriously here. i highly reccomend that you go over to www.4x4wire.com and ask your questions. the people there wont flame you for being a newbie and will answer your questions. i'm over there a lot and if you ask a simple question there i will answer it. if you ask the same questions here i will normally flame you. today i'm feeling nice tho so i'll go ahead and help you, but please ask on the 4x4wire next time. i promise you'll get more help and less flames.

if you take the sway bar off you'll have a lot more body roll but also more flex. still not much because of the IFS but more. in off cambers this could make you slightly more likely to roll, but only very slightly. over all it will help more than hurt. i ditched my front sway bar almost a year ago. of course i'm also ditching my IFS. if its a daily driver i'd go with the disconnects cause the sway helps a lot on the street, i just got used to the body roll in corners. my passengers hate it tho. hope this helps.

Dallas

i was smart enough not to ask the simple questions, just sit back, think about your question, and then think about how various changes would effect it, on this one ill help you with the thought process, im sure you already have your answer, but it will help in the future.
step 1: what is the problem? (being a pussy and not wanting to roll)
step 2: what is my proposed solution? (swaybar disconnects)
step 3: how will my correction affect the situation?(allow more wheel travel, thus keeping the truck more level when one tire on a side is up or down, but giving more body roll when both tires on a side are up or down)
step 4:Is this what i want? (no, because i see offcamber dirt hills more than rocks)
step 5:the realization (damn I'm smarter than I thought, I can solve problems myself and not get made of fun as much for asking stupid questions)
Originally posted by Nukeiridium
Ok, now I'm totally confused as to whether taking the sway bar off makes the truck easier to roll over or harder to roll over. So this question is too simple to ask here? Where SHOULD I ask this question? I take it you think it's funny to try to screw up people who are new to the sport. Is that what people did to you when you were new? Is that how you got where you are now, by people laughing at your stupid questions and not wanting to help? You guys must think you're the shit, can I be like you when I grow up?

no, can yours?
Originally posted by Nukeiridium
Yeah well you guys all have wussy rigs. Can your rigs do this?
http://cleedo.com/climber.jpg
How about this?
http://cleedo.com/sub.jpg
What about this?
http://cleedo.com/fly.jpg
My rig can do all of these! :flipoff2:
http://cleedo.com/kia.jpg

I ran my ZR2 when I had the IFS with no sway bar. I had a torsion bar setup too which was pretty firm so sway wasn't as big of a problem. I had a pretty wide track vs. the sportage so thats something to consider too.
On your sportage, run it on the street, off for the dirt.

You could take it off alltogether and see what the pucker factor is, but I would keep it. And as for disconnects, how hard is it really, to disconnect your endlinks? I was able to just fold my swaybar up and out of the way.

I didn't have any problem with the CV angles because of built in factory bumpstops. They're set on the conservative side usually. I just trimmed mine little by little untill I felt I had done enough.

GOOD LUCK!!