OK, I have a locking gascap on the Cruiser, but it doesn't actually lock. Some fawktard has figured this out and has been siphoning gas out of the tank. And at prices these days.. This is Grand Theft Gasoline. :mad:

I try to plan ahead and leave the tank nearly empty, but yesterday I ran out of gas on the freeway. No, I don't have a gas guage.

I don't want to do anything elaborate, like rig a paintball gun to the gascap or anything with fireworks or electric shock, cuz I'd bootyfab it and it would short out and burn the Cruiser to the ground. And probably wouldn't kill the asshead anyways..

I'm going to park the Cruiser for a couple of weeks while I gather parts. In the meantime, I'd like to cap off the fuel line and "doctor" the gas in the tank for when he comes back.

What I'm wondering is: Does sugar in the gas tank REALLY destroy a motor? It would be worth 10 gallons and a pound of C&H granulated to teach the guy a lesson.

Does anybody know of any other fuel "additives" that will for-sure kill an engine? The catch is that it can't make the gas look funny or smell funny so the guy doesn't get spooked and figure it out.

-tom

Why not drop $12 bucks and buy a new locking gas cap that, um, actually locks..... :confused:

Originally posted by ChevyCaGal
Why not drop $12 bucks and buy a new locking gas cap that, um, actually locks..... :confused:

lol that's too easy I guess? :confused:

Is the LC your DD? If not, then rig an alternative tank and put water in the mix.

Then again.. put a simple note inside the gas tank flap...

forgot the note....

I like the alt. gas tank idea... have it like 80% water 20% gas (so it smells right) and then add some sugar in it too...

!!! :D :D

I have no idea what this smells like but put deisel gas in the tank or mix.

I was just gonna say fill it with mostly water and gas, but the suger idea will kill an engine, it turns to caramel with the heat(or so the anarchist's cookbook says):D

Hehe so combine the above ideas .. muahhaha

Piss in it, they when he sucks it to get it started some may go in his mouth....

Originally posted by Brad
I was just gonna say fill it with mostly water and gas, but the suger idea will kill an engine, it turns to caramel with the heat(or so the anarchist's cookbook says):D

It needs to be in the oil. Wont work in the gas

Or you could smear dogshit all around the gas filler and just hose it off for yourself in the morning:flipoff2:

Originally posted by LordRatner


It needs to be in the oil. Wont work in the gas

Oh yes it will.

I'd shoot him in the ass with a pellet gun, but that's me.

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO
I'd shoot him in the ass with a pellet gun, but that's me.

I was thinking along the same lines. I'd leave the gate open just enough for my pit bulls to get out. :D

Originally posted by Bobzooki


Oh yes it will.

Must have been something in that Dodge then

I had a locking gas cap before some lil prick busted it off...guess he was a little pissed, I had about a gallon in my 30 gal tank. I went to put fuel in the day after and couldnt get any in the tank. The punk broke his tube off in my tank:mad:........I like the pit bull idea

Originally posted by Bobzooki


Oh yes it will.
Oh no it won't. It will clog up the filters, but it won't harm an engine at all.

http://cartalk.cars.com/Columns/Archive/2001/February/02.html

So what would dork up the thiefs engine then if mixed with the gas??

Later.

Ken S.

IMO, don't sleep tonight. Just wait somewhere for him, and ensure you get full redemption, however you want.

I'de lay in wait under the cruiser, as soon as he took the first mouthful of gas I'de hit him in the ankle with a taser and see if the arc really can start a fire:nuke:

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO
I'd shoot him in the ass with a pellet gun, but that's me.

:flipoff2: me too

I had this problem several years ago with my crewcab when I was living on campus. I ran the tank that they always took fuel from dry ( have two tanks), then I put about 5 gallons of diesel into that tank. The next morning there was a Honda in the middle of the parking lot that died and wouldn't start back up. I drained what was left of the diesel out of my tank, and filled back up with gas. Funny, I never had a problem with gas theft again..........


Dave

yup i would put a mix of gas and diesel, it will for sure stop him from going too far...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO
I'd shoot him in the ass with a pellet gun, but that's me.

Now that sounds like something I would do. :D Rock salt works good too... :eek:

Actually, a small mix of diesel and gas can increase fuel economy! But enough science. Screw the locking gas cap idea until you've fucked this guy over somehow!!

Anyone know if there's any truth to the old Linseed Oil trick?

Supposedly it makes your car smoke like a mutha. :laughing:

That would do it, if you just want him to stop gankin your gas.

If you wanna do some damage, how about pure diesel? remember, his tank probably won't be empty, so you'd need pretty much straight diesel to get the job done after the 2 gallons he steals from you are mixes with the 5+ probably currently in his tank.

Hell, just do what the cool guys do. Convert to propane. :grinpimp:

POWDERED AJAX works,it will take out his rings in no time flat.:cool:

Originally posted by fukeneh
POWDERED AJAX works,it will take out his rings in no time flat.:cool:

I like this one! Will I be able to get the AJAX out of my tank when it's time for me to drive again?



Originally posted by TNToy
Anyone know if there's any truth to the old Linseed Oil trick?

Supposedly it makes your car smoke like a mutha. :laughing:



I'll probably end up doing this one and look for the guy who's leaving the smokescreen!

Thanks guys!
-tom

Originally posted by TNToy
Anyone know if there's any truth to the old Linseed Oil trick?

Supposedly it makes your car smoke like a mutha. :laughing:

That would do it, if you just want him to stop gankin your gas.

If you wanna do some damage, how about pure diesel? remember, his tank probably won't be empty, so you'd need pretty much straight diesel to get the job done after the 2 gallons he steals from you are mixes with the 5+ probably currently in his tank.

Hell, just do what the cool guys do. Convert to propane. :grinpimp:


gas motor's WILL run on diesel... they just smoke a bit... nice try, drive thru :flipoff2:

Got anything around the house that's 2-stroke? (chainsaw and such....). Just mix whatever gas is left in your tank with some 2-stroke oil. He'll smoke like a freight train (not to mention foul plugs, shorten the life of a catalytic, etc.), but you can even drain what's left and still use it!;)

You need something with almost no octane! make it detonate like a bitch! water and diesel wil make it run rough but up the octane equivalent at the same time. You need something with a super duper spectacularly low flash point and is highly combustable the gas smell will be there and mix it with gas. You'll for sure blow a head gasket maybe burn a piston or valve if the octane is low enough. ;)

What about pure alcohol and gasoline, maybe 4:1 mix? Would that be OK 1) to leave mixed safely without a bad chemical reaction and 2)be explosive enough to blow up his engine when he runs it? Or is it just a bad idea?

Hef

Re: Diesel and gas...

Funny this should come up, I had a car in at the shop where I work that had been filled with a mix of half diesel half gas approximately (owner's daughter used the yellow pump to fill the car up). Anyways, we were wondering what to do with 10 gallons of "Dieseline" so we drained the tank and dumped it into my Land-Rover (Ford 4.9 I6). It ran OK at first, but then ran like total shit... Severe smoke (but not under load, just when coming off load), pinging, detonation, popping thru the carb. Just nasty! It was kinda fun to have a "Bat-Smokescreen" just like the famous 'mobile... Truck pulled itself around for a week on this poison, then I splurged and filled it up with super and it's just fine now.

A honda on straight diesel won't run... my carburetted low compression brick barely ran on a 50/50 mix... I really doubt rice would dig the diesel.

I never get fuel stolen, as I've got a "diesel fuel only" on my gasser truck. Works really good :D

J-L

I doubt diesel would work with a "gas" thief. Within the first few seconds he/she will realize that they are not getting gas anymore. IMHO :D

Sugar won't do anything but plug up filters. Sugar does not dissolve in gasoline so it's just going to lay in the bottom of your tank and probably not get sucked up by the siphon hose. Also you'll have to get it out of your tank too.
Water in the gas won't work because, hello, gas and water won't mix.


What you need to do is get yourself a couple of gallon cans of Coleman lantern fuel, otherwise known as White Gas. White Gas has almost zero octane so that aught to get things off to a nce start.
Toss in about a quart of ATF. If they do get their engine going the ATF will make it blow all kinds of nice white smoke.:D
Now don't stop there. Put in about pint of acetone into the mix. Acetone does really neat things to rubber fuel lines, carb floats and fuel injection systems.:evil:

Don't forget to stake out the thief and TAKE PICTURES for us. :D

humm the white gas, atf, acetone sounds like a winner.

I've run mixed gas in my 258 I-6, carb's Jeep without any noticable change in performance. About 15-20 Liters mixed with 30 - 35 liters for a full Tank.

I've run in my Carb'd Dodge Omni without any change either (not even smoke), but that was just 10 liters.

I'd like to know more about a "ideal" mix of Gas & Diesel though, if you have any more insight you'd like to share DX2Dave.

Anyways, I hope you just snap'd on a plain, locking gas cap to save yourself the truble of trying to clean out any 'poisen' mix you're brewing up to screw the theif.

Can he see inside the rig??? How much do you think he is taking?? If he cant see in, and he is taking less than 5 gallons...mix the acetone, ATF, white gas in a jerry can and attach your filler hose to that. It is a little more work up front, but the clean up will be simple enough. Tape him doing it. Shoot him with BB/Pellet/rocksalt. It's up to you.

I would tape him doing it if you want to pursue legal action of some sort...not sure what you could do. Then install a locking gas cap. AFTER he has done it, and you know who it is, then go add the acetone/ATF/white gas to HIS tank. Then yours isn't messed up, and he stills gets his junk skrewed up.

What about droppin a few cases of mothballs in the gas?? I've "heard" that it can work some wonders... Tho the gas, acetone and atf does sound like a nasty combo.....

Originally posted by Hef
What about pure alcohol and gasoline, maybe 4:1 mix? Would that be OK 1) to leave mixed safely without a bad chemical reaction and 2)be explosive enough to blow up his engine when he runs it? Or is it just a bad idea?

Hef

Nope heard of methanol race fuel its kinda the same as alcohol. Diesel has a high octane property its like trying to light grease on fire... White fuel has pretty high octane equivalent too.

Ever tried tro light a coffee can of gas on fire? its kinda hard to do. diesel is worse!

You need something that you have to stand back to light yet doesnt evaporate. Like aerosol starter fluid but a fluid that doesnt evap... :confused:

Just put diesel in and call it good.Sugar will not dissolve in gas.Don't believe me take a sugar cube and put it in a glass of gas and stir it up.guy once stole a jerry can out of the back of a truck near here.Was full of diesel and he didn't get far.Listen for the bucking and farting almost right away.If you want to be able to charge him put a die additive in so when the cops come they can compare.

Originally posted by Blame Canada
I've run mixed gas in my 258 I-6, carb's Jeep without any noticable change in performance. About 15-20 Liters mixed with 30 - 35 liters for a full Tank.

I've run in my Carb'd Dodge Omni without any change either (not even smoke), but that was just 10 liters.

I'd like to know more about a "ideal" mix of Gas & Diesel though, if you have any more insight you'd like to share DX2Dave.


Something like 10%, I'll talk to my girlfriends Dad, he did it in a dart he had, changed the fuel milage from 13 to 17, I'll post later when I find out more.

Also, Diesel is measured in cetane "In a spark-ignition (gasoline) engine, octane represents the fuel's ability to resist ignition from pressure or heat and wait for the arc of the spark plug. The higher the octane, the more resistant the fuel is to auto-ignition."

Cetane is the opposite of octane. Now how that really applies, I have no clue.

Dave

After the ajax/comet treatment,your tank will definetly need a flush. It would be easiar to catch him in the act and give him a good 'ol boot fucking.
Just tell the cops he" ran and fell "
I'm not speaking from experience though.....hehehehehe ;)

Originally posted by scouter77
Ever tried tro light a coffee can of gas on fire? its kinda hard to do.

You're kidding right? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Camp out and wait, till the person come back for more, then suprise them.. (Kick Some Ghetto Bootie)

Originally posted by DX2Dave

Also, Diesel is measured in cetane "In a spark-ignition (gasoline) engine, octane represents the fuel's ability to resist ignition from pressure or heat and wait for the arc of the spark plug. The higher the octane, the more resistant the fuel is to auto-ignition."

Cetane is the opposite of octane. Now how that really applies, I have no clue.

Dave

I don't know what Cetaane is either but I do know that diesel is rated at 54 octane and has lubricants added to it.

With it being a Cruser, take and drain the tank, and then put a heavy duty garbage bag in the tank. Put that garbage bag up to the filler neck, and presto, instant easy clean up. this way you can make as ugly of a mixture that U want! I really like the big mix of everything that can do dammage, but make sure that there is enough gas to make it smell right!

Originally posted by Toy 4Runner Man
With it being a Cruser, take and drain the tank, and then put a heavy duty garbage bag in the tank. Put that garbage bag up to the filler neck, and presto, instant easy clean up. this way you can make as ugly of a mixture that U want! I really like the big mix of everything that can do dammage, but make sure that there is enough gas to make it smell right!
Wouldn't gas melt the plastic?

Originally posted by ScottFJ40

Wouldn't gas melt the plastic?


If not the gas, i'm sure one of the many other liquids would.

And i don't really care what you end up doing, as long as you take pics. :D :D :D

The acetone will definately eat through the plastic, thats why it comes in metal cans. Plus putting it into your gas tank can screw up your fuel gauge floats and the insulation of the wiring inside your gas tank for the fuel gauge.

how bad you wanna get this guy drop your fuel tank replace it with some type of conatiner and run hose into it then when he siphones he gets your special mixture in a special container and your fuel tank or truck will not be effected

Originally posted by Whiplash


I don't know what Cetaane is either but I do know that diesel is rated at 54 octane and has lubricants added to it.

Yeah, and you could probably measure Octane in cetane.

In any case, adding diesel with drop octane a lot. a 5-10% mix of diesel and gas will raise fuel milage- This experiment was run on a car with 8.5:1 though, and as said earlier, milage went from 13-17 (carbd engine)

Aside from me stealing the thread....

The mixture listed earlier looks pretty evil, which is kickass. By adding diesel you'd be basically giving him gas that is 54 octane, so things would pop, hopefully!! ;)

Go down to yer quickie mart,pick up a few cans of refried beans,a couple dozen pickled ukranian sausages,a litre of egg whites....then make a giant burrito and eat it (every last bite)......wait a couple of hours ,and then you can go leave a big greasy terd in the filler neck of your cruser.
If that doesnt make stealing gas unpleasant...I dont know what will. :eek:

Fukeneh is on the right path.. forget the things that will mess his car up.. do something that'll have the fucker puking all over your cruiser. I'm serious.. reroute the filler tube into a 5 gallon gas tank that you've been pissing in for a fuckin week.. let him siphon some piss.

Probly solve your problem.

screw all that shit just get a hose and run it in the tank, leave about a foot hanging out, attach a not saying here i thought i would help, oh and by the way I know who you are so watch your back bitch.

I still say just shoot him in the ass with a pellet gun.

I'm starting to feel like we all have some unresolved life issues:confused:

Seeing as how you all liked my first concoction so much how about this idea?

1st you'll need a non-vented gas cap.
2nd disconnect the filler hose from the gas tank.
3rd make an adapter to neck the filler hose down to garden hose size.
4th dump some liquid Rit dye (dark blue or green would be good) in the filler neck and replace the cap.
5th turn on the water pressure, sit back and wait!:evil:

so ya get this guy yet or what?:confused:

when I was younger I ended up putting Kerosine in my fathers snowmobile. needless to say it did not like it. :D

Jeez, I neglected this thread for a while and it really started to run amok.

This thread almost needs to be moved to tech.. :)

I can't believe one of you is actually suggesting that I poop on my Cruiser. To deface my rig in such a way would most assuredly anger the Cruiser Gods beyond recourse.

Actually I took the Cruiser apart in the driveway and it has an empty tank right now. When I park it out on the street again, will this witches brew be potent enough, or do I need more stuff?

1 pint ATF
1 pint white gas
1 pint acetone
Mix in 5 gal Jerry can, fill the rest with reg gas

-tom

ps- And no, simply buying a new locking gas cap is NOT an option. It's about REVENGE, served cold, and letting the other guy get himself.

Originally posted by scouter77


Ever tried tro light a coffee can of gas on fire? its kinda hard to do. diesel is worse!
:

You gotta be thinking about Kerosene, not gas.

I've lit more than a few "containers" of various sizes filled with gas in my day, and I can honestly say, it's never been a challenge.

Originally posted by masterbeavis
What about droppin a few cases of mothballs in the gas??


No Way !! Have you ever smelled moth balls ?!!?
























How'd you ever get your nose between their tiny little legs ??



That still cracks me up after all these years... :D