: who in the bay area has gone to a reff to ok a motor swap?


cobo9
11-13-2001, 02:23 PM
i am finishing up my ford 5.0 swap in my cj-7 and wanted to know who has gone to a reff and had success with little or no problems? Any suggestions to make it go smoother?

thanks,
corey:bounce: :bounce2:

COMPLAINE
11-13-2001, 02:34 PM
I would not know it must be a jeep thing. j/k:D :flipoff2:

No but for real, make sure every stock smog device for the 5.0 is on and workin. All items should match the smog stuff that came on the car it was in and for the same year as the motor. And you can't lie about the year of the motor because they WILL check block numbers. And to pass the sniffer make sure it is tuned up well.

Have fun. hehehehe those smog guys are real friedly.:rolleyes:

Ian-

welndmn
11-13-2001, 03:46 PM
i was a ref, let me know before you head over and i can give it a quick look

the best one (not really the nicest but he is the BEST) is in Fremont, @ Sequoia instutie, he is normally busy so make a appt ahread of time

SHERPA
11-13-2001, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by welndmn
i was a ref, let me know before you head over and i can give it a quick look

the best one (not really the nicest but he is the BEST) is in Fremont, @ Sequoia instutie, he is normally busy so make a appt ahread of time

Mark, you serious you were a ref???


ok then, I have a question... my 86 cj7, soon to be equipped
with a 92 firebird TPI 5.7 that will be smog legal, will be hooked
to a manual trans... but, only the 5.0 was mated to a manual
tranny... problem here or no?? or, could I say the motor came
from a 92 vette??? they had 5 speeds w/5.7 litre in 92. (but that
motor might have been a LT1)...... whats a guy to do??

--Sherpa

welndmn
11-13-2001, 04:00 PM
Depends on what county, i don't witch one Cambell is in, but if its Advanced, they might care (as in dyno smog) if its still a Basic area (most of the Bay area is) then no they will not care, if you lie about the engine and they find differently, they will find some way to screw you, (it really pisses us off)

even still in advanced, they will check the computer # on you PCM and see if it needs to be a Manual computer or an auto, not sure off hand on chevys but the fords are different

SHERPA
11-13-2001, 04:21 PM
I'm already figuring on having to locate a manual computer for
the motor... oR, can I jhust have the prom re-done for what is
different in a manual trasn application???

I'd rather be upfront about the whole thing really. My only worry
is the 5.7/5.0 manual trans issue... I don't plan on cheating on
any smog tubing hookups, like that sort of stuff... I plan on
all EGR hookups, etc...

also, if the vehicle only came factory equipped with a single
exhaust/single cat, is it OK to run dual exhaust/twin-cats
running a cross-over pipe between?? again, this isn't being
done on a cheap route, but rather for better performance and
still be a "good" emmission motor...

Campbell is in regular ole' Santa Clara county (same as san jose)

but I'll take it where ever to get this done...

thanks for the feedback...

--Sherpa

Monkeyboy
11-13-2001, 04:23 PM
So crap, now I have to go and find a manual computer for my swap.
Is that what you are saying Mark?

SHERPA
11-13-2001, 04:29 PM
Toad, I think that is what he is saying... I got an auto, you got a
manual? wanna trade?

when is the next, what did you call it, disfunctional sunday? ...lol



--Sherpa--ready to take my shit to another state to avoid this
crap...........

can a smog ref/buddy of Mark's be bought? I'll deny I ever said
that!

Ant
11-14-2001, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by SHERPA RIG


....my 86 cj7, soon to be equipped
with a 92 firebird TPI 5.7 ......

--Sherpa

Are you serious!?!? how soon?? :rolleyes:

SHERPA
11-14-2001, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Ant


Are you serious!?!? how soon?? :rolleyes:

you're a funny guy. no, really...


see ya saturday you nut......

Adam Ant
11-14-2001, 09:36 AM
there is A four digit Code on the computer that refers to the Trans
BJWU is manual code on some this is the Number you will need!
or anything with Manual Code make sure it Is compatable With motor
Also when you get the New Computer you will need then Vin number This references what year Motor Vehicle and Trans Combo Fed/Cal Model and Also you'r Vacum Diagram can be bought from GM there Like 9 bucks.

The REF likes this !! they dont have to search there books

the Vin is the Most important so the Snap on analizer can or Bear analizer Can Comunicate with the Computer.
Otherwise it show A code for faulty ECM and they will fail you if this happens!! You need stock Tank No Fuel Cells !!!! Gas Cap and make sure the Wiring Doesn't look Hack foeey like on the sensors and other stuff all the exhaust will have to mimick the donor vehicle! As well Hope this help's That motor is Gonna rock!!!! i want A older 7 so i can do this same Swap!!

Adam,,,,

StinkBug
11-14-2001, 09:58 AM
what about this, i'm gettin a 98 4.3 chevy V6 that came in a full size with a manual. i wanna put a 700R4 behind it. since the 700R4 isnt electronically controlled the computor shouldn't even know its different. can i get this setup to pass???

Dallas

Monkeyboy
11-14-2001, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
Toad, I think that is what he is saying... I got an auto, you got a
manual? wanna trade?

when is the next, what did you call it, disfunctional sunday? ...lol



What year and model is that computer out of.
Mine is a 90 mustang.

Do you have the VIN number of the vehicle it came out of?

I wrote the VIN number down on the computer:D

Not sure when I'll have the next Disfunctional day.

Maybe soon if I get motivated to work on my heep.

Too busy waiting for the snowboarding season to start.

Ten_Bucks
11-14-2001, 11:49 AM
Sherpa,

The engine that you're using does not have a computer controlled transmission. General Motors didn't start putting computer controlled transmissions in the Camaro until 1994. Go to the website listed below for more help.

www.thirdgen.org (http://www.thirdgen.org)

Ant
11-14-2001, 12:38 PM
Even though the tranny is not computer controlled, they still had different computers for the motors in front of manuals vs. autos.

SHERPA
11-14-2001, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Adam Ant
there is A four digit Code on the computer that refers to the Trans
BJWU is manual code on some this is the Number you will need!
or anything with Manual Code make sure it Is compatable With motor
Also when you get the New Computer you will need then Vin number This references what year Motor Vehicle and Trans Combo Fed/Cal Model and Also you'r Vacum Diagram can be bought from GM there Like 9 bucks.

The REF likes this !! they dont have to search there books

the Vin is the Most important so the Snap on analizer can or Bear analizer Can Comunicate with the Computer.
Otherwise it show A code for faulty ECM and they will fail you if this happens!! You need stock Tank No Fuel Cells !!!! Gas Cap and make sure the Wiring Doesn't look Hack foeey like on the sensors and other stuff all the exhaust will have to mimick the donor vehicle! As well Hope this help's That motor is Gonna rock!!!! i want A older 7 so i can do this same Swap!!

Adam,,,,



Thanks Adam,

now I have more questions.......

I don't know the vin the motor came from.
The guy I bought the motor from doesn't have the info either,
and has moved since I bought it.

I will run my stock cj-7 tank for the test. (then I'm replacing it
with a custom tank.

I have all the wiring and shit that came with my motor.

Can I just go find a firechicken that is a 92' with a 5.7/auto
and give the ref that number?
wouldn't it come up with that car's ID info rather than the
motor going into my jeep??

--Sherpa

Adam Ant
11-14-2001, 02:07 PM
Can I just go find a firechicken that is a 92' with a 5.7/auto
and give the ref that number?
wouldn't it come up with that car's ID info rather than the
motor going into my jeep??

--Sherpa [/B][/QUOTE]


I am sure this Will work just make sure the Vin matchs the Computer other wise you got some Explaining to Do!!!:eek: :eek: '
Make Up some type Of Bill of sale for the Motor with VIN then Say this is what they Gave Me!!

And they will not Like This Ya know!!

I am going to install a Auto4.3 Vortec Motor In a 93 Jeep here Real Soon and I am Going to use my vin Number Of my manual Jeep Already with A manual Motor 4.3 Vortech And Give that Info to the Ref i replaced the Prom from Auto To manual the part can be bought from Your local GM dealer For cheap!! Hopefully this Works!!!


it is the Vin number you are Looking for!! with manual Motor!!

try the Auto though!!! see what happens Then play dumb and rollover and play Dead !!!:D :D :D :D

I think they will believe you are stupid then and Get so MAD for trying To snowball them:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Adam,, Any More ??

SHERPA
11-14-2001, 02:17 PM
Adam,

thanks again. here's more.

So, my "other" dilemma to this ordeal is: they didn't offer
the 92'--5.7TPI with a manual......only the 5.0 Am I fawked
on this item alone before I continue?

you say the computer has to match the VIN.... you mean
as in: the numbers only indicating the motor/tranny combo?
or as in this is the car currently reg'd to so-n-so..

oh, man...what a lump of coal I'm getting into...

Rokmycj
11-14-2001, 03:09 PM
Question: I had to run a different air filter due to space limitations. I am running a K&n and have all the vacuum tubes hooked up that went to the stock air box. Is this going to give me problems? I put a 4.0 in my CJ7 so the motors are pretty much stock.
you say the computer has to match the VIN.... you mean
as in: the numbers only indicating the motor/tranny combo?
or as in this is the car currently reg'd to so-n-so..

yeah.... What he asked
joe

cobo9
11-14-2001, 04:07 PM
i know all about the original smog stuff, hell i even have the the piples cats etc. i got all that shit. I was just confirming if there is anything you must do to make it more favorable for you. besides i smog cars illegally sometimes never said that. so i know what needs to be done. I just want input from the guys that have delt with the guys at sequoia.

my friends dad bought me painless kit and the engine wires are cherry. they are still in the wrapping, so it will look clean and perfect which seems that any idiot would want their rig to look professional if you want it to pass.

Second the motor is out of 90' bronco auto i beleive. so I have to get a computer for a manual trans?

thanks guys,
corey