I did a search and didn't locate much. Is there an economically priced tubing or pipe bender out there that i can build a roll bar with?

Are you looking to build a cage or just the bar? What is it going into? I have a Roll bar from a 89YJ for $25.00. There are many inexpensive benders.

I would stay away from the pipe benders they have a different die shape do to the fact that you measure pipe ID and tubing OD.

actually the whole thing cage, bar and all. i would prefer something that didn't mash the corners

here's link to a pipe bender from Harbor Frieght, $99

Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/)

search for item #32888

here's a link to the JD2 tubing bender site

Model #3 (http://www.jd2.com/M3B.HTM)

later

Does anyone have first hand experience with this "model 3" unit. Less than $300 is a steal, especially when you have a couple buds to go halves on the unit.

I'm just concerned with its ability to bend DOM "kink free."

BTW, a buddy of mine has that $100 unit from Harbor Freight. He calls it the $100 tube kinker. I've seen some of the DOM that he has done with that unit ... don't waste your money.

cm "can it bend 6" of Polish thunder?" k

I have a model 3 bender from JD2. It bends tubing near perfect. no kinking at all using 1.75" 0.120 wall DOM. Does take some work with manual ratchet, but its good for ya. The price of bender doesn't include the die. I bought just 1 size and bent my whole cage 1.75"

HTH

Originally posted by cmk

BTW, a buddy of mine has that $100 unit from Harbor Freight. He calls it the $100 tube kinker. I've seen some of the DOM that he has done with that unit ... don't waste your money.



yep.. i OWN this unit.. but i got it on sale for $59. makes a great shop press with a few additions, but it BLOWS as a tube bender.

Go with the harbor freight bender. You cant beat the price and the radius of the bends is alot tighter then most people think.

that harbor frieght bender is a p.o.s. it'll kink d.o.m. tubing....:rasta:

Originally posted by JONYJEEPER
that harbor frieght bender is a p.o.s. it'll kink d.o.m. tubing....:rasta:


yep for tube they suck ..that is why they are sold as pipe benders..They work great on shedule 40 pipe,, But who is going to build a roll cage out of schedule 40 pipe:D

I was figuring to build my own cage also, but after pricing the material and cost of a bender I found it a lot cheaper to buy the hoops and do a little modification to fit my needs.

I agree the Habor Freight bender is a piece of $hit. As they say you get what you pay for.

The harbor freight bender might be cheap but it works damn well on pipe. Also what is the deal with no body wanting to use pipe. I sell stainless steel everyday. Pipe, tube, flat bar, you name it and I've got itand the DOM is not much stronger than pipe. Where somebody will pay 8 to 10 bucks a foot for DOM you could get pipe with the same wall thickness for 2 to 3 bucks a ft. The price difference does not warrant the strength difference. Just a thought.

Originally posted by scizout
The harbor freight bender might be cheap but it works damn well on pipe. Also what is the deal with no body wanting to use pipe. I sell stainless steel everyday. Pipe, tube, flat bar, you name it and I've got itand the DOM is not much stronger than pipe. Where somebody will pay 8 to 10 bucks a foot for DOM you could get pipe with the same wall thickness for 2 to 3 bucks a ft. The price difference does not warrant the strength difference. Just a thought.


OH My God! Newbie Alert! Newbie Alert! :flipoff2: Don't even go there. Hope you have a flame retardent suit on. :smokin: :zzz: :rainbow: :clown: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by scizout
The harbor freight bender might be cheap but it works damn well on pipe. Also what is the deal with no body wanting to use pipe. I sell stainless steel everyday. Pipe, tube, flat bar, you name it and I've got itand the DOM is not much stronger than pipe. Where somebody will pay 8 to 10 bucks a foot for DOM you could get pipe with the same wall thickness for 2 to 3 bucks a ft. The price difference does not warrant the strength difference. Just a thought.

Gee, could it just be a coinsidence that the PIPE BENDER that harbor freight sells only works on pipe? Hey, if you want to drive around in a rig that weighs 10 tons and has a roll cage that
snaps off into jagged points on impact, that your own buisness.
I prefer .120 wall tubing and aTUBING BENDER I use DOM for racing, welded seam tubing four wheelin. my cages have been tested at 200 mph.:smokin: (that one was TIG'ed chrome moly)

A great place to look for affordable fab tools for home is Williams Lowbuck Tools. The owner is really cool, and the catalog is a hoot, even if you don't buy anything.

I started out with a JD2. I would recomend it for home use. I have since graduated to a hydrolic Hossfield. Alot less work.

This buggy is made of 1.5" sched. 40 and has been rolled 9 times w/o so much as a tent in the cage.

yeah but what does that buggy weigh? your talkin about a little ass toy buggy that probably weighs around 500 pounds buggy versus a 5000 pound truck. simple math here.


Dallas

StinkBug.... nice sig.

My point also. What is the weight? What are they rolling on.... sand/soft loose dirt? Let's roll that thing in the bowl or in the sluice.

Originally posted by scizout
The harbor freight bender might be cheap but it works damn well on pipe. Also what is the deal with no body wanting to use pipe. I sell stainless steel everyday. Pipe, tube, flat bar, you name it and I've got itand the DOM is not much stronger than pipe. Where somebody will pay 8 to 10 bucks a foot for DOM you could get pipe with the same wall thickness for 2 to 3 bucks a ft. The price difference does not warrant the strength difference. Just a thought.

I think you need to study up on your metalurgy pipe and tube comparison. the grain structure are completely different and where is dom for eight to ten dollars a foot unless your buying .500 wall 3" o.d. usually d.o.m. for .120 wall 2" o.d. goes for around 2.75 ft.

pro tools has a model 105 tube bender capable of 180 degree bend in 2" .120 wall cromoly. Its mechanical and is 275.00 very nice unit I had one you can get the arms upgraded to 5/8" for 50.00 more. I now have the hydraulic 1 shot and love it it will make a 90 degree bend in 2" .120 wall d.o.m. in 9 seconds withouyt any deformation. The problem is the cost of the dies whatever any of your friends have is what id buy that way you could interchaNGE YOUR DIES AND SAVE SOME COIN:smokin:

I cant vouvh for this 100% but I have some friends in canada and what they refer to as sch. 40 is what d.o.m. is here in the states. Never been to canada so cant be certain sounds stupid but I guess its possible:rasta:

Actually, pipe is measured by OD. Lots of people call it 2" pipe, but it really means a pipe with a 2.375" OD and a specific "Schedule" which changes the ID

Originally posted by techguru73
I cant vouvh for this 100% but I have some friends in canada and what they refer to as sch. 40 is what d.o.m. is here in the states. Never been to canada so cant be certain sounds stupid but I guess its possible:rasta: You need new friends. Same shit different country.

Originally posted by Eric
Actually, pipe is measured by OD. Lots of people call it 2" pipe, but it really means a pipe with a 2.375" OD and a specific "Schedule" which changes the ID


NO PIPE IS MEASURED INSIDE DIA.A 2 inch pipe has a 2 inch inside dia..Shedule 20,40, 80, 120, 2 inch pipe all have the same inside dia. Pipe is used for matter transfer and is measured in side dia so that engineers can rate flow and pressure drop,,


Tube is measured outside dia,, A 2 inch tube will be 2 inch out side dia, A 3 inch will measure 3 inch..and so on

Originally posted by SeaBass44



NO PIPE IS MEASURED INSIDE DIA.A 2 inch pipe has a 2 inch inside dia..Shedule 20,40, 80, 120, 2 inch pipe all have the same inside dia. Pipe is used for matter transfer and is measured in side dia so that engineers can rate flow and pressure drop,,


Tube is measured outside dia,, A 2 inch tube will be 2 inch out side dia, A 3 inch will measure 3 inch..and so on

and

Originally posted by Pat

you have know idea what you talking about...What would be the inside dia. of a 2.375 dia pipe be Maybe 2 inches

Think before you reply


I have been working with pipe and tube as my trade for 13 years and am pretty sure of the id od thing


Hmmmm, that is interesting.

How about you re-read my post or I change the wording............ How about they "call" pipe by the nominal ID, they DO NOT "MEASURE" it by the ID.


Since you are so experienced, maybe can you explain the followoing....

"NAME"----------SHC 40------------SHC 80
-----------OD-------ID----------OD-------ID

1/8"------.405-------.269-------.405-------.215
1/4"------.540-------.364-------.540-------.302
3/8"------.675-------.493-------.675-------.423
1/2"------.840-------.622-------.840-------.546
3/4"------1.050------.824-----1.050-------.742
1"--------1.315-----1.049-----1.315-------.957
1-1/4"---1.660-----1.380-----1.660-----1.278
1-1/2"---1.900-----1.610-----1.900-----1.500
2"--------2.375-----2.067-----2.375-----1.939
2.5"------2.875-----2.469-----2.875-----2.323


It sure shows that the OD is in fact the same between SCH 40 and SCH 80. If this is right, why did you say they have different ODs? The IDs are also different, but you said they were the same. I think you may have lots of experience and the correct concept, but I don't think you have the specific details of the material dimensions. Probably not necessary to know for working with pipe, but if you are the one designing and doing calculations with it, you better know the specific dimensions and properties of it.

And Pat.....
I do think I know what I am talking about. If you find something wrong with what I have posted, please tell me. Thanks.

thats a big smack

pipe is not measured by i.d. it is called out as 2.00 pipe but no where does it measure 2.00 diameter. i hear it all the time but what he quoted is correct, you are not. you can use all kinds of ways to justify your self but eric is 100% correct and you are not. very simplesmack

ok then what is the inside diameter of 3" sec 5 pipe?
the only constant thing on pipe is the o.d. therefor it must be about 3.0something. i don't think so. mike

Originally posted by gunracer1
ok then what is the inside diameter of 3" sec 5 pipe?
the only constant thing on pipe is the o.d. therefor it must be about 3.0something. i don't think so. mike


do they even make a shedule 5 pipe??????? that would be some thin stuff, Just wondering

i have put in miles of it, they use it fore vacume/ blower delivery systems in food processing plants. tig weld most of it some time rubber couplings. o yea its almost 3.5" i.d. mike

Originally posted by gunracer1
i have put in miles of it, they use it fore vacume/ blower delivery systems in food processing plants. tig weld most of it some time rubber couplings. o yea its almost 3.5" i.d. mike

God damn food process pipe... Ever try tieing into a 10" molasses line?? SLUDE from hell!:)

Let me put it this way:) If I walk int abc metels and want to get some sch 40 80 ect pipe, it is ordered by ID. iof I ask for 3" ID I will get a pipe, If I ask for 3" OD. they will say it is refered to as ID.

o.k. enough about pipe , i dont really think any of us are worried about the dimensions of pipe:nuke:

Originally posted by JONYJEEPER
o.k. enough about pipe , i dont really think any of us are worried about the dimensions of pipe:nuke:
shut your cake hole boy!

Originally posted by SeaBass44

shut your cake hole boy! i got your cake hole swinging:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

:rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Originally posted by Pat



NOT.. GO get yor tape messure (Not micrometer) and messure any pipe and that you can find... If it has been sold to you as 2 inch pipe it will messure 2 inches inside diameter...If you buy 3 inch it will messure 3 inch give or take a few thousands of a inch... Go ahead a split all the hairs you want...

Pat....you really need to pull out a pipe catalog and check what you are saying.
You are incorrect. You do not order pipe by i.d. but rather by nominal o.d. and
wall thickness.

2" XX-STG is 1.503" i.d. You certainly don't call this 1.5" pipe.

3/8" X-STG is .126" wall.....who do you know that would call this 1/8" pipe ????

All 2" pipe regardless of wall thickness will be 2.375" o.d. How else would you ever be able to mate different 2" pipe of different wall thickness if the o.d. was different on each one.

Think about it and do some checking.....

Jay

HOLY SHIT SHUTUP !!!!!! God damn newbies start all this shit!!! Slight change of subject please Ok the JD2(er3) is a manual bender that some say is good and some say suck ass. I like the idea alot. I have a harbor shit and would love the 300$ JD.
BUT harbor frieght ALSO has some $2.98 POS TUBE bender that like lags to the floor and is a seriosly MANUAL bender with a extendable arm.
Has anyone tried this GEM?
BTW Please for the love of newbies DROP the pipe Shit@!!

your a moron

your a moron

SAYS THE NOOB THAT PULLS UP A DEAD 8 YEAR OLD THREAD TO CALL SOMEONE A NAME....WHO? you have no idea how to quote so we don't know:shaking::lmao::ogre:

SAYS THE NOOB THAT PULLS UP A DEAD 8 YEAR OLD THREAD TO CALL SOMEONE A NAME....WHO? you have no idea how to quote so we don't know:shaking::lmao::ogre:

Wow! I opened this thread and saw the question and thought WTF??? Then saw the date. Hilarious!:eek::eek:

I do find it interesting how far what we do has advanced in just 8 YEARS!!!

your a moron

You sir, are the MORON here........

Like Seabass said.... OLD THREAD!!!

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