20" double beadlocks right from the source!

[JOHNS351C]

As seen in this months 4wheeler mag.

20" double beadlocks
Any bolt patern,
Any center design,
Backspacing from 3.25-6.75 available
Optional custom colors and powder coating
All 3/8" grade 8 hardware with nylon nuts

priced at 250$ ea.

Double beadlock inserts 40$ ea.

curently stocking rockwell 2.5 and 5 ton centers
metric superduty
and in the process of one ton std. patern rim centers

[JOHNS351C]

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[texascadillac42]

I just got my 2 piece double beadlock 20s today, everything looks good on them, I am gonna be mounting brand new Michelin XZLs in the next 2 weeks on them, and will post more info after I get some time on the rims. Upon first inspection they look good however. I will post more info once I get it.

[Airpup26]

i guess im just a stupid newbie.....but how exactally does the double beadlock work? Right now I have hummer rims...would they be a double beadlock becasue the bead is pinched at both sides?

Mike

[Bronkzilla]

yup

[cj7traildriver]

I don't see a O-ring do you have to use a tube, silicone or some kind of sealant to seal them, or am I just simply blind?

[JOHNS351C]

The beadlock works just like the hummer wheels, it just pinches the beads out the the rim lip.

To seal the wheel you simply put some silicone inbetween the halves, let it set up good and that is it. I dont use an o-ring because, I think having to cut half way through a 1/4" plate would weaken it more than I'd like for a rim that may be holding a 340# tire and up to 110psi, also I would have to charge more for the extra machiming costs. I am trying to make as good a wheel I can for the least amount of money. If someone realy wanted a o-ring seal I could do it but like I said it will make it more expensive.


John

[AGGIECJ-7]

hey john....i have heard rumors that the Michelin xl 12.5 r 20's will not work with this rim. i have hear that the PVC insert is sized to accomidate the 48's and 53's, and they are too narrow for the 40's. is there any validity to this statement? also do you make the PVC inserts? could you make them a little wider to accomidate the 40's?

[TPIJeep]

You plan on making them in 15 or 16.5" sizes?

[ultimatebronco]

I was also interested in the 12.5R20's. John351C do you have any info if they will fit the 20" double beadlocks or not.

[B.C. 05]

Originally posted by ultimatebronco
I was also interested in the 12.5R20's. John351C do you have any info if they will fit the 20" double beadlocks or not.


The double ones won't, but the single ones will.:D :cool:



Eric

[waverider]

Do you sell the 12 bolt hummer beadlocks? I am looking for a source for 15 inch, 2.5 inch backspace, 8 bolt (toyota) lug pattern. You got anything like this John?

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by AGGIECJ-7
hey john....i have heard rumors that the Michelin xl 12.5 r 20's will not work with this rim. i have hear that the PVC insert is sized to accomidate the 48's and 53's, and they are too narrow for the 40's. is there any validity to this statement? also do you make the PVC inserts? could you make them a little wider to accomidate the 40's?


First the PVC inserts is something only daniel uses right now, the way the military locks the beads is a big ruber ring.
now for your question, If you were to ask me this a couple months ago, I would have said no, because the sealing lip on the rim is taller than on the tire, But I had a guy that had bought rims from daniel that is runnig 40's bring them to me because of a sealing problem, and have found that they will kinda work. The insert does not hold the beads tight because it is not wide enough for 10" wide rim. To do it right the rim should be made a little skinnier to work. I do have a beter way in mind that I have not yet tried that I think will work great by being the right width and have the corect bead height on it.

Right now I do not make the PVC inserts but I am intending on doing them soon.

So on your second question, I would not make the insert wider, because I just use the military ruber inserts right now, but I would have no problem making the wheel skinnier for it to all work right and use a differant rim shell that has the corect rim lip.

I hope that answers your question, I think I confused myself typing it
:p

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by TPIJeep
You plan on making them in 15 or 16.5" sizes?

Actually I do plan on doing them in those sizes now. It will be a few weeks before I can do the first ones though.

I had an agreement with a certain band member that I would not do anything other than 20's, but he stabbed me on that one,

so this is for him :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

and one more cause I mean it:flipoff2:

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by ultimatebronco
I was also interested in the 12.5R20's. John351C do you have any info if they will fit the 20" double beadlocks or not.

Like I said, by doing it differantly, I can make a double beadlock work well for the 20's, I just have not done it yet.

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by SILVER89K5



The double ones won't, but the single ones will.:D :cool:



Eric

At the time I did your rims I did not think the double beadlocks would work at all, for the 40's, it has only been since your set that I have found ways and means to make it work.

I am sorry for not having them available when you wanted rims.:(

But I was and still am very proud of how your rims turned out. I realy like them myself, and if you were after another set I would take them back in trade if I can aford it at the time.:D

[B.C. 05]

Sending you a pm.:D



Eric

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by waverider
Do you sell the 12 bolt hummer beadlocks? I am looking for a source for 15 inch, 2.5 inch backspace, 8 bolt (toyota) lug pattern. You got anything like this John?

I am not quite sure what youare asking but i will try and answer:confused:

I can not get the 12 bolt rims at price that I would even consider.
Their are sets available in the for sale section that i would recomend. If you need centers for them I can help there.

You are asking for 15" rims as well? I can do a 15" rim with 2.5" BS any bolt patern you want,

If you are asking for a hummer style double beadlock in a 15" rim, I can do that as well, it just may take a few weeks since this something I am just thinking of getting into right now.

Thanks everyone,
John

[TMWTP]

Hey John, where in WI are you located? Ever do business w/ Ultimate 4 Wheel Drive Performance in Appleton? If not, the owner is a good guy, and maybe you guys can help each other out.

At any rate, if I'm down your way (whichever way that happens to be), I'd like to stop by. I can usually find an excuse to head south if I want to. I just gotta drop the wife off at the mall on the way! ;)

[JOHNS351C]

I am about 3 hours straight west of Appleton, in the la crosse eau claire and marshfield area. I am right in the midle of them three.

John

[rodzzilla]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C


Actually I do plan on doing them in those sizes now. It will be a few weeks before I can do the first ones though.

I had an agreement with a certain band member that I would not do anything other than 20's, but he stabbed me on that one,

so this is for him :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

and one more cause I mean it:flipoff2:

You are supposed to use this one if you really mean it.:flipoff:

:D

[waverider]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C


I am not quite sure what youare asking but i will try and answer:confused:

I can not get the 12 bolt rims at price that I would even consider.
Their are sets available in the for sale section that i would recomend. If you need centers for them I can help there.

You are asking for 15" rims as well? I can do a 15" rim with 2.5" BS any bolt patern you want,

If you are asking for a hummer style double beadlock in a 15" rim, I can do that as well, it just may take a few weeks since this something I am just thinking of getting into right now.

Thanks everyone,
John

I am shopping for 5 hummer style 15" rims with 2.5" backspacing in a toyota 6X5.5 bolt pattern. I am pretty new to hummer style beadlocks so I have a few questions:

1. Are all hummer style beadlocks the "double beadlock" style, or are "single beadlock" styles available?

2. I'm assuming you are dealing in the eight bolt rims as you stated that the 12 bolt beadlocks are too expensive.

3. What's your anticipated time frame for having the 15 inchers available?

Thanks alot!

[JOHNS351C]

Ok the heart of the hummer style is that it is double beadlock, that is why I would consider it a "hummer style" is if it is double beadlock.
Also hummer rims are only available in 16.5's

I can do a 15" rim in a single or a double beadlock.

So if you want a 15" rim it will actually have probably 24 or so bolts that hold it together. I have just started considering doing this today and have found a tremendous responce throughout the day. I have been telling people about 4-6 weeks before i can have rims ready to ship out

I hope I answered your question good enough,
If I can answer anything else foryou let me know,

thanks,
John

[TTURokToy]

Can you make 20" double beadlocks that can use a regular tire bead?

[gnob]

so you use a rubber insert like th hummers?
also what kind of center designs are available
looking for 15"
thanks

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by TTURokToy
Can you make 20" double beadlocks that can use a regular tire bead?
Yes,
I do not know how much it would be at this time but it would probably be in the 250$ mark maybee less.

John

[JOHNS351C]

Originally posted by gnob
so you use a rubber insert like th hummers?
also what kind of center designs are available
looking for 15"
thanks

I use the ruber inserts on the 20x10's, if you want something other than that it will have to be made of PVC.
I can put any style of center design in the rim you want, so if you have an idea, let me know and we can figure something out.

John

[waverider]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C
Ok the heart of the hummer style is that it is double beadlock, that is why I would consider it a "hummer style" is if it is double beadlock.
Also hummer rims are only available in 16.5's

I can do a 15" rim in a single or a double beadlock.

So if you want a 15" rim it will actually have probably 24 or so bolts that hold it together. I have just started considering doing this today and have found a tremendous responce throughout the day. I have been telling people about 4-6 weeks before i can have rims ready to ship out

I hope I answered your question good enough,
If I can answer anything else foryou let me know,

thanks,
John

Thanks for the response. I am looking at a minimum lead time of six weeks anyways. I can't wait to see the product. do you have an estimated price range on the 15" rim, or is it too early to estimate a price? Thanks again!

Mike

[TPIJeep]

What you think John, can you cut some out like this 32 bolt! Still working on a rock ring..

[Rockabilly]

Originally posted by waverider


Thanks for the response. I am looking at a minimum lead time of six weeks anyways. I can't wait to see the product. do you have an estimated price range on the 15" rim, or is it too early to estimate a price? Thanks again!

Mike

You can't get double beadlocks before me sucka....:flipoff2:

[JOHNS351C]

I do not know what they will be priced at yet, I will notprice them out of line with other wheels like this.

TPI that looks like it will work great. did you use 3/8" bolts in that drawing?

John

[Oreo]

Could you make a 16.5x12 with a star center kinda like this?

[JOHNS351C]

I dont see any reason why not. are you after a single or double beadlock?

are you back from vacation now?

John

[Oreo]

I dont see any reason why not. are you after a single or double beadlock?

Ya I just got back from vacation. I figured I'd get some double beadlocks to go with those SX's b/c I don't want to get normal 16.5" rims with out safety beads. Just had a few ?'s about those rims you're selling: Will you be making rock rings? Can they be stamped DOT legal? I'll try giving you a call later.

-Thanks, Tim

[Lifted Cowboy]

Do you sell just the rubber hummer inserts?

[JOHNS351C]

The rims will be street legal as far as I know from the literature I have read about DOT wheels. I will continue to check on this.

On the inserts,
I am in the process of starting to do the PVC inserts.

John

[Lifted Cowboy]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C
On the inserts,
I am in the process of starting to do the PVC inserts.

John How much will the inserts be (ball park figure) for the HMMWV wheels?

[JOHNS351C]

I am thinking around the 50$ mark, I hope to be able to start taking orders next week, I will be doing the 16.5 inserts first for sure, I will probably try and do the 20" inserts as well at the same time, If I can find that at least a few people that are after the 15" rim/inserts I will go ahead and work on them at the same time as well.

I think I will start a new thread on this so I can keep better track of who is interested and what they are interested in.

John

[Stupid frnch jackasS]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C
If I can find that at least a few people that are after the 15" rim/inserts I will go ahead and work on them at the same time as well.


Just for info, what would they run roughly ?
No plans for 16" I guess ?

thanks

[JOHNS351C]

I have every intention of doing the 16's,
I believe the rims with inserts are going to be priced around 200$ ea.
I am still working on it but I think I will be able to do them for around that price. If you want them wider they will be more, and if you want the 17's or 20's they will be more. I will have them figured out soon.


John

[Scott_sFZJ80]

John
Your wheels look great! Do you have a website?
Scott

[GO 4LO]

Originally posted by Scott_sFZJ80
John
Your wheels look great! Do you have a website?
Scott
http://www.stazworks.gq.nu for now.
I think he'll be moving to a .com soon though.
Chris

[JOHNS351C]

Thanks chris,

It is by no means done but It is at least up there.


John

[Erich In AZ]

Originally posted by JOHNS351C
Thanks chris,

It is by no means done but It is at least up there.


John

FYI, on http://stazworks.gq.nu/products.html , I think it should be 'axles' not 'axels' unless you are going to doing some figureskating moves for us ( http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=axel ) :D

[JOHNS351C]

Like I said it is not done yet:)

If anything it gets a rise out of people looking at the site:D

John