urinal thread prompted this poll.

Just wondering what you would prefer.

Metric. It's better. Everything is easily divisable and converted. More accurate.


Hef

Hell, my rig is 100% metric, end the confusion, and make everything metric!

I have prepared home made leaflet bombs ready to launch over Europe.

Originally posted by FJ40Trevor
It depends on what it's for. All my tools are metric because I own a Toyota, but PLEASE don't change those mile markers on the highway to kilometers!

yes ... everything.... we are the only nation in the world that uses this fucked up system AFAIK. why?

Originally posted by LordRatner
I have prepared home made leaflet bombs ready to launch over Europe.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :flipoff2:

force standard on rest of the world!!!!


Go with what you're good at!!















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Ouch!!

And I just voted for Metric...

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ukjeeper



Go with what you're good at!!















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Im a youngin so Im used to metric more so I guess, I got a nice set of both though in the box :flipoff2:

Originally posted by ukjeeper

Go with what you're good at!!
:flipoff2:

Anybody else see a bit of irony in that coming from someone from Britain? :p

Originally posted by LOKNLOD


Anybody else see a bit of irony in that coming from someone from Britain? :p

They invented the crappy standard system we use. They just dropped it in favor of metric and we didn't.

Hef

I say F**** metric. Can't think in it.
~John

and you are what????? 5 years old???

we have completed several highway and bridge designs in metric only to redo them in feet and inches so the contractor could actually build them;)

the state also spent big bucks to convert all the highway mile markers to Km markers and then pulled them up and reinstalled mile markers:confused:

I could care less, just make a fawking decision and stick with it:flipoff2:

Originally posted by sceep


yes ... everything.... we are the only nation in the world that uses this fucked up system AFAIK. why?

Not quite! I think there's still a couple of third world african countries left on the english system.

'Sides, we offishully went the metric system in 1796 or something like that but nobody read the memo!

Metric all the way . . .

You forgot Whitworth for the guys in those funny flat hats.:D

in 1866 the use of metric as a measurement system was legalized

in 1875 the U.S. became one of the original 17 nations to sign the "treaty of the meter"

in 1893 the metric measurements standards were adopted in the U.S. as the fundamental standards for length and mass.

in 1902 congressional legislation requiring the federal government to use metric exclusivly was defeated by a single vote.

so here we are:confused:

Originally posted by Bobzooki
Hell, my rig is 100% metric, end the confusion, and make everything metric! Stock rig eh???? My shiatt's have metric, half standard, and half unknown :D :D :D .

Originally posted by landuseorc
You forgot Whitworth for the guys in those funny flat hats.:D

God I hate those freakin' Whitworthless, damn old Brit cars couldn't stick w/ just one system. Needed to keep 3 sets of tools to work on them.

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Stock rig eh???? My shiatt's have metric, half standard, and half unknown :D :D :D .

No. Hmm, well maybe SOME of it's SAE. Never really thought about all the shit I bolted on to it - bet my Warn Winch isn't metric. Damn!

Originally posted by RE:Todd
Stock rig eh???? My shiatt's have metric, half standard, and half unknown :D :D :D .

I just ground down all the bolt heads so I only have to carry 2 sizes of vise grips:D

:usa:

Let's see:

My ALL SAE THREADED vehicle is a 1966 DATSUN.

My nearly all Metric vehicle is a 1979 Toyota Land Cruiser

My all Metric vehicls is a 1992 Nissan (opps, don't forget the seatbelt bolts are SAE 7/16" due to DOT requirements)

My 2002 Chevy... oil drain plug is metric (14mm, just as easily be a 9/16").

Tom :usa:

i'm with standard. it's what i was raised on and i know how to use it. it makes just as much sense and is just as easy to use as metric, you just have to be able to think in standard dimensions.

Metric.

If a 12mm is too small, just grab the 14mm.
If a 13/16" is too small just grab a ???? (quickly, and you must do it without looking...)

Originally posted by RE:Todd
My shiatt's have metric, half standard, and half unknown :D :D :D .

You must drive a YJ like me.

Call me unamerican, but I Like metric, it's easier. If everything is metric I wouldn't have to buy as many tools too.

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO


You must drive a YJ like me.

Call me unamerican, but I Like metric, it's easier. If everything is metric I wouldn't have to buy as many tools too.

so your just gonna sell all your junk and only by new vehicles from now on? wrong. If anything you'd have to buy more tools as they will become more rare, and we are after all, "restorers"

;)

Just start using metric everywhere and quit converting. Metric is easy as long as you keep it all in metric.

I say make the world dance to our music!

If someone wanted to replace all my English Micrometers with Metric ones, then I'd just get used to it. But whenever we get a Metric print we always have to convert it to English units. All our mechanical measuring instruments are in English with the execption of the Digital instruments. These can convert between the two systems with just a push of a button.



Eric

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO


You must drive a YJ like me.

:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I drive the "Short Bus"

I don't give a shit, I bought a set of METRENCH's :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole
I don't give a shit, I bought a set of METRENCH's :flipoff2:

got product review????????

Hell, I'm older than dirt and I voted for metric. We should have
converted a long time ago. Metric is MUCH easier to use. :D

Originally posted by sceep


got product review????????


I've had em 4 years and the only thing I've broken is the extension and they replaced it for free. As far as them fitting anything...they ain't shittin. And I've gotten frozen bolts off with them that would make a craftsman wrench cry and run home to mommy. They are EXCELLENT!!! I give em :D :D :D :D out of :D :D :D :D

Originally posted by Alpo
I say make the world dance to our music!

If someone wanted to replace all my English Micrometers with Metric ones, then I'd just get used to it. But whenever we get a Metric print we always have to convert it to English units. All our mechanical measuring instruments are in English with the execption of the Digital instruments. These can convert between the two systems with just a push of a button.

Eric

Eric... have you ever STARTED A JOB with the machine in STANDARD, but got it into METRIC halfway?

My Anilam (?) DRO likes to fawk with me on hot days. Nothing the hand spinning everything and suddenly think... whoa, wtf happened? :D

For making SCALE model engines, I was working with a set of German prints... found a quick way to scale it. Divide everything my 32nds. So 3mm became 3/32", 6 mm... 6/32... 3/16th, etc. Actually turned out kinda of a neat scale of a scale. :)

Tom :usa:

Originally posted by roundrocktom


Eric... have you ever STARTED A JOB with the machine in STANDARD, but got it into METRIC halfway?

My Anilam (?) DRO likes to fawk with me on hot days. Nothing the hand spinning everything and suddenly think... whoa, wtf happened? :D


Tom :usa:

Nope, Mori Seiki and Okuma's don't do that. :flipoff2:
But my Mori SL-4 did have a slight problem with powering down in the middle of a cut though.......*sigh*.

You might try opening the CPU cabinet on the Anilam and putting a Fan on it. sounds like a slight cooking problem...;)


Eric

Research has confirmed...

That the majority of all terrorists prefer the metric system. :flipoff2:

One of these days, the rest of the world will see the light, and convert. :D

Pete

Originally posted by WindRider
Metric.

If a 12mm is too small, just grab the 14mm.
If a 13/16" is too small just grab a ???? (quickly, and you must do it without looking...)

No shiot...metric is easier to use. I worked at Amtrak on Talgo trains (Spanish) all metric, easy as hell. What is the awnser to that anyway "If a 13/16" is too small just grab a ???? "?:flipoff2:

If we converted back in '02, we would now be over a century into metric.

What would that mean that is different than now?

-every vehicle on the road would be metric (unless you drove some fawking steam powered horseless carriage)
-every aircraft would be metric (take that Orville)
-everything you own would all be the same (nice idea, huh?)
-more than likely, torx would have never happened (goddam you Jeep!!!!!)
-EVERY (or damn near) tooling manufacturer would only have to carry metric parts/bolts/tooling/scales/calipers/mircometers/etc, requiring less inventory, less catalogs, less components, less thought, etc.......
-EVERY person would all think the same way in respects to units of measure (wouldn't be a PROBLEM about thinking in metric, 'cause you wouldn't KNOW english. Honestly, would you know that there is 6,894.7 Pa in a psi, or that there are 62.4 lbs/ft^3 in 1 g/cc?)
-more time could be spent learning things in school rather than learning conversions
-There would be half as much clutter in the world (no SAE nothin)

SO, it all comes down to this: we have too much crap in SAE. We as a nation are fawked! If we even WANTED to go SI, we would be set back for an entire generation, because the way fawking kids learn (or lack thereof during their "feelings" sessions in "school?") currently, they would be absolutely usless to the American workforce. Granted, some would catch on, but there are enough of em coming through who CANT FIND THEIR HOME STATE ON A MAP that the whole country would be doomed. Once they (and us) are all dead and gone, the kids behind them would be fine, since they are immersed in it. We would lose 50 years of being a world power. Then all would be fine (that, and the BILLIONS of dollars it would cost to convert).

It would be hard to phase it in also. I work in the Forest Products Industry, and everything is based on lineal feet, chains, tares, acres, board feet, MSGL (which is thousand square feet of glueline, single sided [figure THAT $hit out?]), etc. That industry would most definately be fawked, as there are billions specifically there that would need to be covered. Paper mills, lumber manufacturers, OSB/plywood, etc. All old school SAE.

If those fawkin redneck nationalists in 02 would have looked pasted their big ass heads over their fervor for "winning" the Spanish-American war a couple years earlier (the turning point which made the U.S. a world power), then we wouldn't need this conversation........

metric is fine, just getting there sux