I think I just came up with a way to make an sye that requires no parts except a driveline (non CV)

It would not really make the case any shorter.

Is this worth 50 bucks? I for sure can make it work...just bring me your case. should only take an hour.

for a bit more I can handmake the same setup Tom Woods sells. You wouldn't need to ship the tail housing though...I'd modify it inhouse. I'll do it cheaper too :D Just want to practice this stuff be for I start going my own direction w/ bolt on crap. Any takers?

Send me a pic thowe@sbcglobal.net or my pirate mail.

If I build my XJ up I might take you up on the offer.
Not worried about drive shaft length. Just don't want to pull the slip yoke a nd drain fluid on the trail.

I'm also going to be doing a SYE on my XJ so I'd be interested in seeing some pics. too. Thanks

RE already sells a cheap kit for $99.

The bad thing about not replacing the output shaft and housing is that you have not really done anything except remove the slip shaft. You haven't improved the t-case or solved vibe issues.

The benefit of replacing the output housing with a shorter one is that you can now use a longer driveshaft and improve your driveline angle. This helps eliminate the vibration problems associated with steep driveline angles.

A long skinny output shaft + steep driveline angle + heavy torque = snap. I've seen it happen on a steep, twisty hill climb. Broke the output shaft and the housing.

Save your coin. Get an SYE with a heavy duty output shaft. Eliminates the slip yoke, helps solve vibe issues, more than 50% stronger than stock.

RR3

But in some cases like ours where we have a mildly built XJ that has no driveshaft length issues. it doesn't matter if you make the shaft any longer.

My other XJ had the slip yoke in it and I never had a problem at all.

I just want to be able to remove my driveshaft without loosing fluid. on the trail. If I can get the piece of mind that this is possible I will take more aggressive lines that my bend and ruin the driveshaft.

Originally posted by RR3
RE already sells a cheap kit for $99.

The bad thing about not replacing the output shaft and housing is that you have not really done anything except remove the slip shaft. You haven't improved the t-case or solved vibe issues.

The benefit of replacing the output housing with a shorter one is that you can now use a longer driveshaft and improve your driveline angle. This helps eliminate the vibration problems associated with steep driveline angles.

A long skinny output shaft + steep driveline angle + heavy torque = snap. I've seen it happen on a steep, twisty hill climb. Broke the output shaft and the housing.

Save your coin. Get an SYE with a heavy duty output shaft. Eliminates the slip yoke, helps solve vibe issues, more than 50% stronger than stock.

RR3

I used to live right near RE and are very familiar w/ their stuff. Frankly I'd rather try to machine my own metal w/ my cock than buy their crap :D

Mr. Toad :D
the driveshaft removal in the cheap version would consist of removing a plug from the tail housing, then removing an alan key that is tapped and treaded into both the slip and the shaft.

fluid loss would then be possible but you'd expect it :D

I don't have any pics cause I've never done it. But it would look like it does now except the drivline would have a slip and the tail housing would have a plug :D call me a smartass but imagine a plug in your tail housing :D :grinpimp:

Originally posted by RR3

The bad thing about not replacing the output shaft and housing is that you have not really done anything except remove the slip shaft. You haven't improved the t-case or solved vibe issues.

RR3

Oh yea..read my second post eh? it would be a cv yoke and a cut down housing. See the vision...if you really have the cash to upgrade a 231 then you'd probably get something better in there anyways. These a quick solutions for less. If you don't like my ideas don't read my post :D fawkin newbie

No negative comments can be made towards me unless you know me or are on the same BBS level as me :grinpimp:

Maybe I don't share your "vision" :rolleyes: because I don't see how it would be much of an improvement.

If you have a mild lift and don't have vibration problems your cheap fix will work to eliminate the slip yoke.

If you can reproduce Tom's, or the Currie kit, great. Both those kits use cut down stock output shafts and a new yoke. As does the RE kit. The RE setup just has you chop off the shaft and tap it while it's still in the t-case. :barf: No real alterations are made to the housing except a new seal. The core charge for Tom's or the Currie kit is for the shaft, not the housing.

You are not saving that much money with the kits that use stock output shafts. You still have to get a driveshaft. Currie paid me $100 for my old output shaft. That brought the cost of a HD SYE down to $200. That plus the cost of a new custom driveshaft put me only $50 more than the Currie or Tom Woods kits w/driveshafts. Well worth it.

No negative comments can be made towards me unless you know me or are on the same BBS level as me
Is that BBS or BS level? :flipoff2:

Good luck with your new SYE business :nuke:,
RR3 :D

Damn newbies! :rasta:

Sillyneck this guy obviously doesn't know you.

By the way I've been meaning to appologize for drinking all your beer when I rode shotgun through the sluice with you.
That was a 4 beer run through the box:D
I owe you.

If I can find the ass end of a 231 to get to you and have you molest I'll do it. I can't send you the parts out of my daily driver:D

I don't need a CV yoke I just need a standard yoke.


What software did you say you had for tube bending calculations.

Some one posted a link the other day to some free software. I was just wondering if it was the same stuff.

Hey Sillyneck, this is a little off topic but could you please post a pic of your cage in your YJ, I had one saved but cant find it. I hope you dont mind if I copy your design a little, since I am over on the shitty coast I thought maybe it would be ok. :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

ok how about this.

When a guy in an XJ blew his rear drive shaft we made his buddy dump out his plastic glass full of beer. And then we duct taped it onto the transfercase housing. Guess how much fluid we lost? none! and it cost next to nothing, well ok some beer was spilled. Point being if you dont need the drive shaft length why spend extra money ? just to say you have a SYE ? .....

my advise go buy a samurai ! you wont have these silly problems..

-mike

Have you ever seen some one pull the slip yoke while trying a steep obstacle.

Um Yah Fluid all over the place.

also you can put a long slip in the driveline once the sy is pinned :D suck it :D when's the last time you saw a longslip sy? :D I win


okay.....at my shop we use bend calc. not sure if that will lead to the web site or not but ya know.

all the cage pics you want are available at my website :D

Thanks Sillyneck, much appreciated:flipoff2:

I'd be pretty interested, but I've got the 242......Keep us informed....

Originally posted by YJ4RoX
Thanks Sillyneck, much appreciated:flipoff2:

good luck w/ the cage. it was soooooo easy that way. also keep in mind you can only put one seat in the back if you do it exactly like mine. If you want more room I'd substitute the V design for a halo similar to the front halo. I just wanted mine like hedron so if I rolled I'd hopefully keep rolling :D onto my tires again :D

Thanks for the rear seat input, it doesnt matter as long As I can fit my beer cooler, tool and extra parts I am good to go. I was kinda hoping for the continuous roll idea as well.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Sillyneck
also you can put a long slip in the driveline once the sy is pinned :D suck it :D when's the last time you saw a longslip sy? :D I win


okay.....at my shop we use bend calc. not sure if that will lead to the web site or not but ya know.

all the cage pics you want are available at my website :D

Could I bribe ya with :beer: to hook me up with a copy of yur bending software :D:D

We should hook up some time for sum :beer: sometime

yea did you fall off the face of the earth? I haven't seen you or your rig around chico..nor have i seen you on the board. Busy summester or what? I am in granite bay until friday but PM me or something and we'll talk. The soft ware is Mike Ladd's but I bet I can get a copy. :D

Sillyneck U suck :D
but I love your ideas!

There was a post a few weeks ago with a link to the website for the bendcalc software.
You can download it for free.

I'll see if I can find the link.