A buddy of mine just got into the rooftop tent business and he sent me some pics; some of them were from an expedition, and I figured you'd want to check them out.

Nice tents, very competitively priced, but so far no plans to sell them in the US...bummer!

In any case, enjoy the pics!

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Last one...look at the ground, *this* is why a rooftop tent is so damn nice! :)

Those tents would be excellent in bear country.
I would just hope that you are a sound sleeper and don't roll around too much, heck of a fall!:eek: :skull:

You sleep with your head towards the entrance or towards the opposite side, and those things are STURDY, I don't think there's a big chance of falling out! :)

That is totaly awesome! Call your buddy up and tell him to send a few test tents over so we can try them out :D

Screw the tents..look at those CRUISERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by wngrog
Screw the tents..look at those CRUISERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!! I was thinking the samething!

Henry, bear in mind I have never even looked at one of these, but would it be feasable to build your own floor, and buy a tent that fit it?
I assume the hinge is rigged to only go to straight, and the ladder helps support the weight?
What is the material for the floor?
Butch

Butch, the ladder doesn't really do much to support the tent, it's designed to open to straight and stay like that, the support is at the hinge.

The floor of these tents is either wood or aluminum, each has its pros and cons. Over that is a foam mattress held in place with cords (so that it always folds and unfolds). The superstructure is bent aluminum tubing and the tents are made of heavy duty breathable canvas and thick rubberized canvas. Windows and sides have mosquito mesh.

I've considered finding a good place in Mexico to have them made, take mine in as a prototype and make some changes. In the US it's absolutely prohibitive to make them, the cost of labor pushes the cost of the tent beyond what's reasonable.

The sad thing is that with the current Venezuelan exchange rate, the cost of these tents has gone down to about $500 for the biggest model (sleeps three)...but importation is useless.

Butch, if Gary Cobberly gives me the OK, I'll be in Dallas next Thursday to lower the Cruiser; I'm also going to run some errands with Jason Kenne and we were thinking of stopping by your place! If you want, I can bring the trailer for you to check out the tent??

Originally posted by 60seriesguy
The sad thing is that with the current Venezuelan exchange rate, the cost of these tents has gone down to about $500 for the biggest model (sleeps three)...but importation is useless.


I assume it's more trouble than it's worth? Or is it the cost factor?

I've been doing research on these things as I'm lookin to put one on a future expedition trailer built similar to yours Henry.
(I want to be able to tow it into camp and not load/unload all my crap. I'll leave it all in the trailer and go wheelin')
It looks like these style tents are at least a grand US$

what are the best options so far??? How serious are you about having them made :D

these are pretty cool! is this the brand you have Henry?
http://www.loftyshelters.com/IndexFrame.htm

Right now getting *anything* out through Venezuelan customs is virtually impossible; tag on some of the US's highly protective tariffs for textiles and textile-related products (which unfortunately, these fall under) and the price shoots up. At that point, might as well buy one of the better quality South African ones (Hannibal, Echo, Eezi-Awn, etc...).

The ones that Lofty Shelter sells are Italian-made Maggiolina. Very nice, very expensive.

Mine is a MARE out of Venezuela. I think they're pretty cool, not nearly as nice as the South African-made tents, but mine was less than HALF what those cost and I didn't pay shipping/tariffs (it was hand-delivered by some Venezuelan buddies on expedition in the US)....

So my trailer is an inspiration for yours? Ok, let's see pictures of the buildup!!!!! :)

Hmm.. Looks like an interesting Project for our Pakistani Mechanics here.. I dont htink it would be to hard to make.. Any drawings or diagrams or pics of the structure of the thing would definately help.. :)
I will talk to the mechanic and see what he thinks..
Ehsan

Once again Henri showing us things we can't have.:D BTW, did you say LOWER :confused: :confused: the cruiser??? As in bling, bling or just an inch or so?:flipoff2:

Originally posted by wngrog
Screw the tents..look at those CRUISERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Word:eek:

http://www.africansources.org/cgi-bin/agents.pl?func=showprod&prodid=139&agid=20

The one thing I think that is really cool about these tents vs. all the others I have seen is that they are in COLOR!

Personally, I cannot buy into the rooftop tent for US travel. For the price I could get a small pop up camper and tow it almost anywhere I want to go in the US. With a quick unhook I'm ready to hit the trail. There are very few trails that I can think of that I couldn't pull a trailer (Alaska). And there are very few off road trails that I can think of that I'd want a loaded roofrack on. I just think in general our travel in the lower 48 is not expedition enough to warrant the need for a rooftop tent.

Henry, don't put in LOWRIDER into your CD player as you drive over to get the Princess lowered. She might end up too short!

I just wish I could get one of those darn roofracks imported!!!

Originally posted by ginericfj80


Personally, I cannot buy into the rooftop tent for US travel. For the price I could get a small pop up camper and tow it almost anywhere I want to go in the US. With a quick unhook I'm ready to hit the trail. There are very few trails that I can think of that I couldn't pull a trailer (Alaska). And there are very few off road trails that I can think of that I'd want a loaded roofrack on. I just think in general our travel in the lower 48 is not expedition enough to warrant the need for a rooftop tent.

See, I disagree. There are a LOT of trails in UT, AZ, NM, CO and CA (and of course Alaska) where you would really benefit from one of these tents, thousands of miles of trails where there's no chance of towing a US-made pop-up without tearing it apart. Sure, you can just take a regular tent and save yourself a lot of money, but there are benefits to these tents that go beyond cost. Comfort, for one, there is no comparison between one of these and a regular tent. Height, especially in sandy places or wet ground or areas where there are nasty critters. Baja CA would be an ideal place for one of these.

Setup time is another huge benefit, Ross Lake and I got to the Fall Gathering in NH in the middle of a pounding rainstorm and it took us less than 1 minute from the time we got out of the car to the time we were safely inside the tent. Try that with a conventional tent! Not to mention the ground was saturated with water, there were a lot of Cruiserheads with flooded tents the next AM! This same benefit comes when it's time to get moving, just fold it back up, put the cover on, you're ready to drive.

One last one, there is no way that this sturdy beast is collapsing from wind, even very strong ones, which is another problem I've had with conventional tents.

60seriesguy

isnt yours mounted on a trailer ? or was that trailer built that way post some better pics of it thats what i really want outback pop up camper :D or do you have a top mount also ? did i read your lowering your rig what ya doin to it ?

Yeah, mine's mounted on a trailer. Initially I had planned on mounting on my INTI roof rack but I didn't like the way the Cruiser handled with all that weight permanently on there; the next best thing was the steel lid on top of my trailer. I did some tweaks to the project (like higher-rated shocks for the lid), but it turned out real nice and I'm very pleased.

I'm going to de-arch the OME springs, I'm hoping to lower the Cruiser by at least 2", hopefully 2.5" from where it currently sits. This is in anticipation of moving up to 37's and no desire to make the Cruiser taller than it already is.

I've already taken the *before* pics, once I have the *after* I'll post them both! :flipoff2:

if you guys are serious if you can get a pattern for the tent i can have it made probably cheap as hell because you can have anything made here in south korea cheaply and since i leave in a few months i can just put them in with my house hold goods and no shipping cost until they are back in the states and get mailed to everyone that wanted one.

that is the kind of post that can make you friends very quickly!

Henry, I need one of these tents. Badly.

Is it possible to import these as a kit, or do you know if the import duties to canada are different?

They look absolutely perfect. Perhaps this is the excuse I need to plan an expedition ;-)

OK, I'll admit there are some trails it would be nice. And especially in the winter when it would be a PITA to haul a trailer. I'm still holding out for my offroad camping trailer. It will come. I guess the extra space thing comes from having an infant. A roofrack just isn't enough room. I'm really tired. Wish I had either so I could camp out at the trailhead tonight to reduce my driving tomorrow.

Henry, how much do these tents weigh roughly? I wouldn't think that they would weigh a whole lot more than any conventional type tent.

Cruiserman74, if you do get some made and bring them back to the states I would definitely be interested.

Got one that will fit on a CJ? :D
Very cool tent, but how would someone that is, ummmmm, say 6'2" and about 300#'s do in one of these?

Originally posted by mixmaster
how much do these tents weigh roughly? I wouldn't think that they would weigh a whole lot more than any conventional type tent.
The ones I was looking at are anywhere from 100 to 150lbs.
I'm guessing Henry's is around 100, maybe a little less.

They are heavy canvas, sturdy metal pole structure, and heavy bases with mattress (yet another reason they're cool. No rocks or roots to sleep on, and your not balancing on the Thermorest :D )

I want one because I'm going to build a trailer (don't get too excited Henry, the project is in the *near* future but not too soon) similar to an M416. Mount the tent on top and ALL the camping, trail spare/heavy tools organized in the trailer and I unhook it and am done setting up camp :D Also, camp breakdown consists of....hooking up the trailer :D OK...call me lazy, but I'm getting sick of packing and unpacking, and packing, and unpacking, and.....

The other cool thing... you leave all your camping stuff IN the trailer. Your totally ready to go and no rooting through the garage to find everything.

I don't have an accurate weight on mine but it's *heavy*, at least 100 lbs. and possibly as much as 120 lbs.

Chris, you basically described my trailer setup, mine holds four of the medium Action Packers full of camping gear, tools and spare parts, two of the small Action Packers full of recovery gear, four camp chairs and various tarps. Everything is catalogued, labeled and ready, all I need to do is buy the food and make sure the Cruiser is up to spec, and I can take off! I'm hoping that once I figure out a storage solution for the rear of the truck the whole process will be even further streamlined.

Originally posted by 60seriesguy
Chris, you basically described my trailer setup
Ahhh....hence the statement:
"future expedition trailer built similar to yours Henry"

BTW, I am SOOOOOOO sweating this stove sink setup! :eek:

http://home.earthlink.net/~thumprideb/images/tvankitchen.jpg

he he, I'm thinking an onboard H2O tank with a windshield washer pump :D

of course a sink might be a bit of overkill :rolleyes: i do like the idea for the stove though, and some sort of integral sturdy table that folds (or slides) out of the trailer.

Hey 60 series guy, how would you compare your roof tops with these?

http://www.hannibalusa.com/tents.htm

I plan on getting one of these for my HJ-60. I agree with the philosophy you are esssss-pousing!



TB

I like the Hannibal, I'd say it's probably more refined (albeit a little less rugged) than the first generation Mare that I have, probably comparable to the second generation Mare now available. The BIG difference comes in price, the Hannibal tents are *VERY* expensive, I don't think I could justify one for the amount of camping that I do.

I do not know how they compare on weight, I presume they're similar, and that's another issue with a SO 60 series, I'd prefer not to carry that much weight on top of the truck.

The thing I like about the Hannibals are the awning and the sides for it. When you're stuck on a windy lakebed with just a tent, these give you some standing room to stretch in. They also have a folding table that slides under that roof rack that is pretty trick.

And it all folds neatly away. The only thing that was weird for me (I'll see if I can find the pics) is that they have you leave the tarp on the awning and when the arms fold one of them is forced to stick out a little. By making odf the arms a coupkle of inches lower than the other this could be fixed and I don't think anyone is going to complain that the shade angle a couple of inches to one side.:D

Hey expedition freaks, I've got a few questions;

I plan on building a roof rack next month, which part of the rain gutter is stronger, towards the front or towards the back? I want to run 6-8 Nato jerry cans side by side.

I was planning on building a roof top tent as well, how many support legs should I buy in total, and which type would you recommend?

Thanks

Tyler
BJ60

You can run 7-8 NATO cans across the roof of a 60 series. You probably don't *want to* (heavy), but it's definitely doable and the gutter mount will hold them and additional weight.

The keys to a good roofrack are:

1. Light
2. Strong (to a point)
3. Light
4. Low profile
5. Light

If you're going to make your own rack, shoot for light materials, add bends to make thinner-walled material rather than going with beefy, this is ONE component of the Land Cruiser you don't want to be overbuilt. In fact, consider the roof rack to be essentially disposable, because you WANT it to give before you rip out the rain gutters, which are VERY difficult to repair.

You want to make it low-profile, too, roof racks are KILLERS of fuel economy and add significantly to the center-of-gravity, so the lighter and lower you make it, the better.

The higher the number of feet, the better (within reason), depending on the length of the rack. For a full length rack you want at least four feet per side and even five is not overkill, they help to distribute the weight of the rack on the gutter. For a 3/4 length rack, you can get away with 3 or four feet per side, but that's the absolute minimum, you DON'T want 2 feet per side in a long rack on a 60, you're going to stress the roof.

If you can weld aluminum, go for it, the materials will be more expensive but the rack will be that much lighter, I think it's worth it.

Traditionally, expedition Land Cruisers in Venezuela mount the jerry cans on the front of the rack, mostly because of weight distribution. The cargo areas of these vehicles are jammed to the rim with gear, so you don't want even more weight over the rear axle/overhang. Besides, a very heavy ass-end of the roof rack really affects handling, you want that weight to be as close to the center between the axles as possible. I've seen racks with jerry can mounts in the back, but if you're really planning on carrying 8 full jerry cans on it, mount them towards the front.

Conferr clamps are pretty decent for a homemade rack.

The Hannibal racks are TIG welded aluminum! Very light and very strong! They have huge load ratings. Im going to outfit my HJ60 with one will all the works. Yes they are expensive, but they should last my lifetime!


TB

http://www.fototime.com/{1D5DA63E-1C58-48BE-A3D0-918F3AC15DED}/picture.JPG

I've actually heard conflicting reports about the Hannibal roof rack, a buddy of mine who runs one on his FZJ80 said he's not entire satisfied with the fit and finish, especially of a rack that's so expensive.

Here's a shot of the seven (7) NATO cans on an INTI rack...they fit so tightly in there that all you need is one ratchet strap across the top and you're set. I still don't recommend running all this weight on the roof unless you're really out on long-range trips, at which point you're probably not doing much rock-crawling.

Wait, I found a close-up shot that shows the jerry can compartment:

Henry,

I was thinking about using aluminum (just bought a mig that is supposed to do it), but I got thinking; what if you're heading out to Camatagua to do some pavon fishing, you hit a big bump and something lets loose, how hard is it to weld aluminum with the battery method :D But you're right, lighter is better... Plus, what are the chances of one of my welds letting loose... Have you ever seen a rack that extends out about 1 ft beyond the windshield? I was thinking of making a wedge shaped lockable storage compartment on the very front of the rack, followed by the fuel cans, then the tent.

Any ideas on a tent? Again I know that weight is an issue, and maybe this would be overkill, but I was thinking of building an upper and lower aluminum frame (1 inch square), covering the whole thing in aluminum (maybe 1/8 sheet) building a scissor lift on it, and then getting the rectangular inner tent custom built.
Maybe this thing would weigh more than my cruiser itself!! Oh, and I was dreaming of adding a compartment along the bottom which could be opened from the inside of the tent to store clothes/etc.

Cheers!

Tyler
BJ60

BTW, Henry, you always manage to just blow me away with that 62, it is now my official favorite cruzer. :D

FWIW, I have a 6061 T-6 roof rack that I designed and built. It's quite a nice piece of kit and very light, I highly recommend using aluminum. The cost was about 150$ of materials, plus a lot of pro tig welding (which was free).

http://riverport.org/JL/P0003418.JPG

sorry about the size...

Except for fuel, which I always try to carry up top, I usually leave really light stuff on the roof. That means that the roof rack doesn't have to be beefy at all. It's just a frame with NO floor (less weight) that I lash stuff to. With a few straps and some ingenuity I've had a lot of bulky junk up there.

The whole thing weighs about 30 lbs, total :)

Hey 60 guy, Opposite Lock makes a 50 gallon main tank for our 60's! There are also a couple 17 gallon aux tank manufacturers out there. That aux tank goes under the drivers area next to the frame as I understand it. You then get a split "Y" filler hose to accomodate both tanks!

That's 67 (plus extra jerry cans) of fuel! Turbo expedition! At least that way the fuel is kept lower!

One of the pilots I used to fly with in the ARMY used to say, "The only time you've got to much fuel on board is when you're on fire Mr."

Your thoughts!


TB

So does that INTI rack bolt together or is it welded??? I may be on to something.;)

Originally posted by LWB Samurai Joe
Hey 60 guy, Opposite Lock makes a 50 gallon main tank for our 60's! There are also a couple 17 gallon aux tank manufacturers out there. That aux tank goes under the drivers area next to the frame as I understand it. You then get a split "Y" filler hose to accomodate both tanks!

That's 67 (plus extra jerry cans) of fuel! Turbo expedition! At least that way the fuel is kept lower!

One of the pilots I used to fly with in the ARMY used to say, "The only time you've got to much fuel on board is when you're on fire Mr."

Your thoughts!
TB

The only auxiliary tank I've ever seen for a 60 is a gravity fed unit, roughly 17 gallons, that mounts next to the driveshaft as you point out. No Y-filler, though, that's on the 80 series model, the 60 series model is gravity fed, the main tank feeds into the auxiliary tank and you have to move the float to the auxiliary tank.

I do like the long ranger tank, it's actually more like 44ish gallons and VERY expensive, it's definitely on the list but on the lower side of the totem pole...!

Sloan, the INTI rack is really two different parts, an aluminum platform that is bolted together and a steel superstructure that's welded tubing, also bolted together. Very strong, very light, and the whole roof rack is designed to tweak before your rain gutters. To give you an idea, I usually take the superstructure apart first, then put the rack platform on the Cruiser by myself!!

Originally posted by crazybushman
Henry,

I was thinking about using aluminum (just bought a mig that is supposed to do it), but I got thinking; what if you're heading out to Camatagua to do some pavon fishing, you hit a big bump and something lets loose, how hard is it to weld aluminum with the battery method :D But you're right, lighter is better... Plus, what are the chances of one of my welds letting loose... Have you ever seen a rack that extends out about 1 ft beyond the windshield? I was thinking of making a wedge shaped lockable storage compartment on the very front of the rack, followed by the fuel cans, then the tent.

Any ideas on a tent? Again I know that weight is an issue, and maybe this would be overkill, but I was thinking of building an upper and lower aluminum frame (1 inch square), covering the whole thing in aluminum (maybe 1/8 sheet) building a scissor lift on it, and then getting the rectangular inner tent custom built.
Maybe this thing would weigh more than my cruiser itself!! Oh, and I was dreaming of adding a compartment along the bottom which could be opened from the inside of the tent to store clothes/etc.

BJ60

Dude, no self-respecting INTI rack is going to let loose just like that, not unless you're grossly overloading them, and definitely not on the way to Camatagua! I used to carry 7 NATO cans, a bunch of chairs, a couple of flat grilles for a bush barbecue and a 12' aluminum boat (what Aussies call a "tinnie") on the roof rack, never had a problem with it. Fit and finish does leave a little to be desired, but I took care of that with some good quality powdercoating and all SS hardware. I might have pics tomorrow, or definitely this weekend, I'm going to try to put it together tomorrow PM.

As for the tent, it depends on where you mount it and what kind of wheeling you do. 90% of the guys on this board would FREAK OUT with a heavy load like that on top of their trucks, but if you keep the wheeling mild, it's not that bad. For what it's worth, I have a couple of friends running Autanas (STD-trim FZJ80's) in Venezuela with TWO roof rack tents, one opening to the front of the truck and another one to the back. Pretty trick, I'm waiting for some nice pics of it, the ones I got are crappy.

Henry
I wasn't flaming INTI, but instead my own creation. From all that I've seen, INTI makes great stuff. Some of the trails going in on the north end of Camatagua (not the town on the East side) got a little interesting during the rainy season, but if any of my welds would break on those trails I should buy a "Dummies guide to welding" :D

You were saying that a roof rack kills gas mileage, just curious if you happened to note your before/after MPG with your rack?? I'm trying to figure out how much it will cost to go to Costa Rica next winter. Thanks!

BTW you've got one nice looking rig, if I could see a better picture of it, I think I'd turn it into wallpaper...

Cheers!
Tyler
BJ60

Aha, the infamous north end, where the supposed trophy fish lurk! Ha, ha, I fished the northern corner *many* times (used to go there to trap live bait), never really got a huge fish (not when compared to the Ventuari, Sipapo, and Pasimoni Rivers) but spent some great weekends out there! I
was only trying to make a joke about the INTI rack, I don't really care for that bastard, he makes a good product but the process of getting something from him is like pulling teeth!

I don't have hard numbers but off the top of my head, I'd say a loaded INTI rack (with jerry cans) will shave 32-3 MPG off your total, *easy*. Unloaded, 3-4 MPG, the vortex effect on them is fierce. On long trips, it really adds up! In
Venezuela it never had the same effect as here because as you know, even on the best highways you can't really go that fast, and on expeditions you were lucky to see 55 MPH on a straight section. But in the US, anything past 60-65 MPH and
you can *really* feel the effect of the roof rack, it eats up fuel.

Originally posted by LWB Samurai Joe
The Hannibal racks are TIG welded aluminum! Very light and very strong! They have huge load ratings. Im going to outfit my HJ60 with one will all the works. Yes they are expensive, but they should last my lifetime!


TB

http://www.fototime.com/{1D5DA63E-1C58-48BE-A3D0-918F3AC15DED}/picture.JPG

Do you have any more pics of the Hannibal rack on a FJ60/62? Their website has said pics coming soon for about a year now.:rolleyes:

Sloan, yes I do have more pics. Where do you want me to send them?

Henry, do you have experience with the Opposite Locke stuff? I wonder how the quality of that tank is? Also, is long Ranger a manufacturer?

TB

Sloan@pirate4x4.com

Originally posted by LWB Samurai Joe
Sloan, yes I do have more pics. Where do you want me to send them?

Henry, do you have experience with the Opposite Locke stuff? I wonder how the quality of that tank is? Also, is long Ranger a manufacturer?
TB

There are only a handful of long-range fuel tanks made in Australia, and companies like ARB and Opposite Lock just distribute them. I don't have my OL catalog handy, but I'm reasonably sure that they are a Long Ranger distributor.

Great tanks, but pricey to get out of Oz.

Henry, is there a Long Ranger website?

Yes that 50 gallon tank from Spectre is 850.00!


TB

http://www.terrigal.net.au/~rca/fueltanks.htm

Thank you Henry. Do you think these places down under will sell and ship to the U.S.?

Here is the Opposite Locke page. They advertise a 190 liter replacement tank, and a 70 liter auxiliary tank. By my math that's 50 and 18 gallons respectively.

How again does that aux tank work Henry? They sell one with a gauge, and one without.


TB

http://www.oppositelock.com/products/product.asp?Page=16&dxdeptid=6&cxcatid=47

I will try and track down the info but I spoke (email) with a lady from one of the long range tank companies in AU and they would ship to the US. Let me see what I can find.;) Remember that an extra 50 gallons of fuel is also an extra 400+ pounds.

Long Range Automotive was the company that I talked too, stay tuned for info.

Okay you can email them at info@longrangeautomotive.com.au And here is a little pic of the product they offer.

DOH!

Also found this, the arms you need from Kaymar to mount 2 spares on the rear of the FJ60. From the good people at Opposite Lock. (sorry for the tiny pic, it's all they had)

Here is the one that they offer for the 100 series.

Capacity, I need capacity! :D

Are those the same tanks that Opposite Locke sells?

They are the only ones that Ive seen 50 gallon (190 liter) tanks from!


TB

Don't those rooftops BELONG in General Chit Chat or FOR Sale but your not selling!!! Tints are nice, platform ah???? 4x8 ply. & piano hinge will do, but this is the TLC zone and keep it at that. Lets see you probably have the same tent on top of Jeeps, Dodges, Fords etc,etc,etc. How the barfs or Marfields holding up? Getting ready to install my welder, ARB"s already there. whatupholmes:flipoff2:

Originally posted by maddog
Don't those rooftops BELONG in General Chit Chat or FOR Sale but your not selling!!! Tints are nice, platform ah???? 4x8 ply. & piano hinge will do, but this is the TLC zone and keep it at that. Lets see you probably have the same tent on top of Jeeps, Dodges, Fords etc,etc,etc. How the barfs or Marfields holding up? Getting ready to install my welder, ARB"s already there. whatupholmes:flipoff2:



WTF was that all about??? Did someone have to much drinky?

I found them for sale at a place I believe was called 4WD Centre but they will sell directly to you as I recall. Get in touch with them for info and go from there. Also remember what the Aussies call a gallon isn't the same as what we call a gallon.;) Also check out this web site for some info www.exploroz.com/Feature/FuelTank/

its a damn shame we cant get anything like that here in the U.S. those are some good looking cruisers

There are some US distributors but everyone pretty much gets them from the same place, usually ARB or Man-A-Fre or one of the other central parts distribution houses. In any case, I'm not trying to pimp my friend's shit but Kurt Williams (cruiseroutfitters) has been selling some of the Long Rangers for a couple years. Unfortunately $5 says it's still cheaper to get it through one of the US distributors than to have it shipped independently...

Also, at least with 80 series they seem to have a factory dual tank option. I helped install a long range tank that sat below the factory tank on a 80 and it reused one of the factory dual fuel switches. Very cool! Except the tank hung down so low...

Andre, do you know if Kurt brings them in directly from Oz? I'd be interested, this is not on the priority list but if it comes along at a great price, then the list gets adjusted! I've come close to buying the one from MAF that Pismojim has, the cost is very reasonable.

The 80 series in several different markets was available with a factory dual tank option that allowed filling both tanks from one filler. Many of the aftermarket long-range fuel tanks use those factory parts, including the factory second fuel tank dashboard switch. Christo Slee would be the guy to confirm or deny this, I bet he's even installed a bunch of those tanks....

One last bit of advice; if you have a 60 series, you might want to import Aussie accessories sooner rather than later. I subscribe to several Australian 4x4 mags and I've noticed recently that several aftermarket companies there have dropped some 60 series-specific products from their line-ups, one of the magazines even had an article about that.

www.aerotanks.com They do custom tanks to your specifications, right here in So Cal.

Originally posted by Sloan




WTF was that all about??? Did someone have to much drinky?

I found them for sale at a place I believe was called 4WD Centre but they will sell directly to you as I recall. Get in touch with them for info and go from there. Also remember what the Aussies call a gallon isn't the same as what we call a gallon.;) Also check out this web site for some info www.exploroz.com/Feature/FuelTank/


and WTF the matter with you? A little drinky might do us all good. I saw a set of window curtins that will fit a FJ-45. I wasn't interested but if you want I'll send the info. They were pink so I'm sure you'll jump right on them. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by maddog
and WTF the matter with you? Lets start selling tents, your bunched up shorts and whatever you like on the TLC forum don't make a FU<K to me. I think a little drinky would lighten you up so stay cool about WTF someone else has to say. :flipoff2:

You must be an FJ40 convert or spend a lot of time in other forums. We don't usually go in for strict rules or harshing on each other here. Last I checked, Dog Walker was the moderator here. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Cruiser Ken


You must be an FJ40 convert or spend a lot of time in other forums. We don't usually go in for strict rules or harshing on each other here. Last I checked, Dog Walker was the moderator here. :flipoff2:


Yep I'm an old dude from way back. Had a change of heart on my reply and changed it. So please forgive me for being so harsh. I don't know what I was thinking about. I hope you don't have to go to therapy for the next week for my bad manners. It doesn't take much to get someone on the board flustered and ready to slam a derogatory remark. Things haven't changed here. More people but the same.:flipoff2: