With all the sanctioning bodies holding competitions within a week of each other all over the country, Who is planning on competing at Cal Rocs next week? I talked to Rich this morning, and he needs support due to a couple big potential sponsors that will be in attendance.

Fernley, I was just there....with the buggy too...damn I thought you were talking Calrocs in Colorado earlier..I'm in then...BTW how many courses does he plan to run...

Count me in

Ryan

Im in. and for the rest of the season COME AWN

RICH if you read this before i call you, E-MAIL me back already.

Ian-

We'll be there with both rigs.
Looking forward to some redemption on those boulders...they really beat us up last time!

Team 21 will be there... Dustin bring Redbull by the case... I'll bring Vodka.

Doug

Originally posted by Doug K
Team 21 will be there... Dustin bring Redbull by the case... I'll bring Vodka.

Doug

:D :D :D :D

Maybe... Those rocks are a killer on the rig. If we do go, i'm headed right back to moon rocks for a little redemption on b7 and i will put a v6 at the top of it using a little technique being talked about on the board by JR...:D

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
Maybe... Those rocks are a killer on the rig. If we do go, i'm headed right back to moon rocks for a little redemption on b7 and i will put a v6 at the top of it using a little technique being talked about on the board by JR...:D

If you come out, let me know. We'll go out to Moonrocks with you. :D

Ill be there:D

I bet I could talk Hal into running Moonrocks just for shits...

Doug

If we can get our junk together Kurt and I will be there. We have alot of work left to do.

Originally posted by Doug K
Team 21 will be there... Dustin bring Redbull by the case... I'll bring Vodka.

Doug

I take no reponsibility for the rest of Team 21 once they get the Vodka and redbull in them....

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
Maybe... Those rocks are a killer on the rig. If we do go, i'm headed right back to moon rocks for a little redemption on b7 and i will put a v6 at the top of it using a little technique being talked about on the board by JR...:D




Tracy I will have a team of camera's plus your rig with the mini-cams!! I want to see that!!

Does anyone have any pictures of the course area at Fernly if tou could post them that would be great Thanks

Originally posted by Skynnard
Does anyone have any pictures of the course area at Fernly if tou could post them that would be great Thanks

Here is one from ProROCK last year.

Lots more pictures here (http://www.4x4wire.com/cgi-bin/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=trailshots/4x4_Trailshots/Competitions/ProROCK/Fernley_2002&img=132). My understanding is that they have done a LOT more work on the courses since then though. I haven't been out there recently to confirm...

http://www.4x4wire.com/gallery/trailshots/4x4_Trailshots/Competitions/ProROCK/Fernley_2002/fern292.jpg

Lance, Are you and Mike competing?

are those man made courses??

Yes, mostly man made courses, which is tough on rigs as Tracy noted.

Originally posted by ToyFamily
Fernley, I was just there....with the buggy too...damn I thought you were talking Calrocs in Colorado earlier..I'm in then...BTW how many courses does he plan to run...

Hey bro, if you still think I dropped you last year, at least let me help you change out some broken axles or somethin'. I still got my team PCB sticker, gonna need a new one though:D

Me and Maniac will be there.
All thats left to do on the rig is to put an in-line fuel shut off valve, to meet the tech requirements.
And doll it up a little with some new color.

See ya all there!

Originally posted by Wilson


Hey bro, if you still think I dropped you last year, at least let me help you change out some broken axles or somethin'. I still got my team PCB sticker, gonna need a new one though:D

No :rolleyes: :D (was just giving you shit about that) , I'm not competing for me I'm spotting for Run Dog

No, mike and lance are not competing in CalROCS this season

Originally posted by ToyFamily


No :rolleyes: :D (was just giving you shit about that) , I'm not competing for me I'm spotting for Run Dog

Sweet! PCB's gonna have two buggaes by the end of the summer

Originally posted by H8monday
Me and Maniac will be there.
All thats left to do on the rig is to put an in-line fuel shut off valve, to meet the tech requirements.
And doll it up a little with some new color.

See ya all there!
What do you mean by a inline fuel shutoff valve. Wouldn't an electrical fuel pump quit pumping when you shut it off or maybe your main power shut off would be enough to solve that problem... Another question on the rules would be what the hell is the linelocks going to do for anybody, they held everyone up at reno for hours because of this rule...

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler

What do you mean by a inline fuel shutoff valve. Wouldn't an electrical fuel pump quit pumping when you shut it off or maybe your main power shut off would be enough to solve that problem... Another question on the rules would be what the hell is the linelocks going to do for anybody, they held everyone up at reno for hours because of this rule...

I thought he was talking about the rollover valve??? If not, please elaborate, I'm building my new buggae within comp specs...just in case

It says you must have a ball valve on all fuel lines including vent lines.

That's the rule I was familiar with

Doesnt make any sence to me either:rolleyes:


Whats the line lock thing about?

Ryan

DOING ALITTLE TESTING

DOING ALITTLE TESTING

Here is another one

alot less rear steer than i saw last time:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Wilson


I thought he was talking about the rollover valve??? If not, please elaborate, I'm building my new buggae within comp specs...just in case

Have you talked to people running whichever series you may be contemplating? Seems like rules change a lot. Just a thought.

At this point, Cal Rocs is the only series I'm contemplating and only certain events, at that. This particular rule (rollover valve) will not apply to me anywyas, I'm running LPG.

I interpeted the rule that stated the need for a ball valve on the fuel lines, as meaning just that. A "ball valve" is what they call the "open and close" shut off valves. The rollover valves have always been in the rules, so I assumed that the ball valve was an update to the previous rules.
If not,.. then I just waisted about $40, in fittings and a valve.
Or maybe I should by a dozen or so Ball valves and fittings and set up shop just outside of Tech on Friday,..I think $75 sounds about right for someone in a mad scramble to pass inspection.:flipoff2:

I just heard that they brought in 20 more loads of rocks for the courses. They've been filling and stabilising the bigger boulders and that'll make the obstacles a little more predictable though it wasn't really that bad in the first place.
I'm really looking forward to this event as I want some redemption at Fernley...it kicked my ass last year!
For those that say they don't want to compete the man-made courses, I say that's a shame...the best wheeler is the one that can compete anywhere.

Originally posted by H8monday
I interpeted the rule that stated the need for a ball valve on the fuel lines, as meaning just that. A "ball valve" is what they call the "open and close" shut off valves. The rollover valves have always been in the rules, so I assumed that the ball valve was an update to the previous rules.
If not,.. then I just waisted about $40, in fittings and a valve.
Or maybe I should by a dozen or so Ball valves and fittings and set up shop just outside of Tech on Friday,..I think $75 sounds about right for someone in a mad scramble to pass inspection.:flipoff2:

"=Ball valves must be installed on all fuel lines including vent lines. Ball valves must be mounted under the vehicle."

This is just another piece of vague RCAA/Cal-ROCKS double speak ...

What good would a manual shut off valve do, Jeff?
Would that be for mechanical fuel pumps only?
No one could get to it in time to do anything.
You gonna put a big red arrow on yer skid plate pointing to it?

They already want a ...

"=Master kill switch that shuts down every electrical system is required to be mounted on the dash, clearly labeled and in proper working order."

They must to be talking about a roll over ball valve ... :confused:
Most fuel tanks have roll over spill ball valves on vents to portect against spills to the outside or to the charcoal canister ...

The only thing I have been able to figger out is that they are asking for a gravity ball valve that will close fuel delivery on roll over. And in the case of a tank or rear mounted electrical fuel pump, such a "ball valve" would have to be mounted so the incoming fuel pressure would need to push against a weighted ball in the valve ... because that is the only setup that would work to positively cut off pressure when up side down.

Is that it? Who knows? :shaking:
I already found out the hard way you need a mind reader, a lie detector, and a soothsayer to figger out WTF they are talking about. :shaking:

You can bet SAR_Sammy will be there

With the Band-Aid Buggy :D

Originally posted by Jaffer


"=Ball valves must be installed on all fuel lines including vent lines. Ball valves must be mounted under the vehicle."

This is just another piece of vague RCAA/Cal-ROCKS double speak ...

What good would a manual shut off valve do, Jeff?
Would that be for mechanical fuel pumps only?
No one could get to it in time to do anything.
You gonna put a big red arrow on yer skid plate pointing to it?

They already want a ...

"=Master kill switch that shuts down every electrical system is required to be mounted on the dash, clearly labeled and in proper working order."

They must to be talking about a roll over ball valve ... :confused:
Most fuel tanks have roll over spill ball valves on vents to portect against spills to the outside or to the charcoal canister ...

The only thing I have been able to figger out is that they are asking for a gravity ball valve that will close fuel delivery on roll over. And in the case of a tank or rear mounted electrical fuel pump, such a "ball valve" would have to be mounted so the incoming fuel pressure would need to push against a weighted ball in the valve ... because that is the only setup that would work to positively cut off pressure when up side down.

Is that it? Who knows? :shaking:
I already found out the hard way you need a mind reader, a lie detector, and a soothsayer to figger out WTF they are talking about. :shaking:

Many rigs have a seperate switch to power up their fuel pump. If that switch was not in fact ran through the main electrical disconnect(which mine is). then it could and would continue pumping even with the engine shut down, the main switch off, and no poweer to the computer. If a line was ruptured, a high volume pump would spew much fuel, while everyone scrambled to figure out how to shut off the pump,...(pull the wires hint hint). It is probably an insurance generated requirement, who knows?

Last years high speed tumble down the hill at Donner, has made me rethink many safety issues, involving how violently our rigs can roll, durring a competition.

I had considered a big red arrow pointing to the valve,...if they are going to require a valve, it makes sense that they should require labeling to find it, in an emergency.

In any case I didnt make up the rules, or necessarily even agree with it. Im only trying to bring my rig to the event, in compliance.

My valves are painted bright yellow...

Originally posted by RedBullJeep
My valves are painted bright yellow...

Sweeeet! Ill be sure to check them out when your on your lid.:flipoff2:

Team Purple will be there with what is left of our Comp Buggy!

its Retirement run

team purple didn't you just build that buggy??
or are you talking about the jeep.

Whats with the line locks, are you not allowed to have them, or do you need to have them.

I shure as hell don't want to take mine out.

Ian-

Originally posted by KrustyKruiser
Whats with the line locks, are you not allowed to have them, or do you need to have them.
I shure as hell don't want to take mine out.
Ian-

They can be used as e-brakes instead of stock or factory brakes.

Rich

I am talking about our YJ,
The new Rock buggy is not finished yet, been to busy at the shop, but it will be ready next month>:D

Originally posted by Team Purple
Team Purple will be there with what is left of our Comp Buggy!

its Retirement run

Kevin did a nice little number on that thing out in MOAB.... Hows the front end looking thes days?

Originally posted by PIG


Kevin did a nice little number on that thing out in MOAB.... Hows the front end looking thes days?
Maybe Kevin did Ron a favor by rolling it...now the rig has reached it's rolling quota for this quarter and he won't have to worry about rolling it himself:flipoff2:

H8Monday...:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by RedBullJeep
For those that say they don't want to compete the man-made courses, I say that's a shame...the best wheeler is the one that can compete anywhere.

One day, those guys won't have ANYWHERE to compete if they don't get used to the man-made courses :(


TEX

Originally posted by H8monday


Many rigs have a seperate switch to power up their fuel pump. If that switch was not in fact ran through the main electrical disconnect(which mine is). then it could and would continue pumping even with the engine shut down, the main switch off, and no poweer to the computer.

I know the top classes in NMRO mud racing require a SINGLE switch mounted externally at the center, rear of the vehicle that is labeled, and kills power to the engine as well as any & all accessories (many of these guys run more than one fuel pump too). Seems like it'd be a good idea to have that & also to standardize the location of said switch.


TEX

Fight in Fernley (http://www.calrocs.com/reno/Fernley.htm)

Send photo links of the weekend and I will post them on the site.

Your sites look really nice Necy... keep up the good work.


Doug

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler

What do you mean by a inline fuel shutoff valve. Wouldn't an electrical fuel pump quit pumping when you shut it off or maybe your main power shut off would be enough to solve that problem... Another question on the rules would be what the hell is the linelocks going to do for anybody, they held everyone up at reno for hours because of this rule...

Hey Tracy....good luck up there....when are you heading out? My Friend Rich is going up to spot Brent Bradshaw from Trail Tough and all those 8 wheels....LOL

Rich works for FST here in PHX

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


Hey Tracy....good luck up there....when are you heading out? My Friend Rich is going up to spot Brent Bradshaw from Trail Tough and all those 8 wheels....LOL

Rich works for FST here in PHX

What happened to Brian?

Originally posted by RudeZuk


What happened to Brian?

I am not sure.....I think Brent said he is still working for them, just didn't like to be away from home so much.....

Do you know Rich? from Wazuks

Originally posted by Arizona Zuk


I am not sure.....I think Brent said he is still working for them, just didn't like to be away from home so much.....

Do you know Rich? from Wazuks

I dont think i do....Brent is sponsoring me this season, so im sure ill meet him:D

Originally posted by RudeZuk


I dont think i do....Brent is sponsoring me this season, so im sure ill meet him:D

cool, wish Brent would sponsor me....LOL
Rich and I have been kicking around building a rig....from all the spare junk we have out here.....

is it going on even if it raining

Originally posted by Ramcock
is it going on even if it raining

I am not sure......
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USNV0029.html

maybe they will sit under a tarp and drink hot coco?