I have a Celica power steering / RRO over the top setup on my Zuk. Does anyone run this type of steering setup and have a stabilizer? A factory replacement won't fit the toy pitman arm, and I'm not sure what else to look for. Searched but came up empty. Any advice? Thanks, JCC:usa:

Use one that has a bracket that bolts to the axle housing and the tie rod. I think Rancho makes one like that.

Its a thought, just not nessarially a good one :flipoff2:

I have one like that, but just noticed yesterday that its bent and rubbing the shock tube on the front axle housing.....Just one more thing to fix :rolleyes:

I am running a Toyota Cressida box (same as the Celica) with the Trail Tough Knuckle-Over Steering and an Old Man Emu steering stabilizer in the stock position. I unbolted the stock pitman arm mount and welded it to my Toyota pitman arm. Works just fine.

Why do you need a stabilizer?

With hi-steer and power steering, what kind of problem are you having?

Are you sure a stabilizer would help?

I put the stabilzer on before I did the power steering setup. Seemed silly to toss a $50 stabilizer just 'cause I added ps.

A little background; I had some troublesome front end wander with my Trail Tough YJ lift. There is some slop with the missing links that I tried (unsuccessfully) to remedy with the stabilizer, then the ps. I finally figured out the only solution to my wander was a panhard or tracking bar. Now my set up is sweet. Steers like its supposed to.

I even have my high-power Spidertrax/AGR pump working pretty good now.

I stopped running a steering stabilizer when I went to power steering and honestly can't tell a difference. I ran a sidekick pwr steering on one sammy and a toy IFS on the other and they both worked fine without the stabilizer.

I'm sure you are right. I probably couldn't tell the difference with the stabilizer there or not. I just chose to keep it.

I've broken my steering stabalizer bracket two times now. Not worth keeping the shock when you have to get a $5 part for it every month or so. Sell it to someone who thinks that they help. That's what I'm doing with mine. BTW I run spidertrax steering kit with no p/s yet and I can't even tell when my dampener bracket is broke until I look at it.

My stock damper has been crushed since last August.

I could tell a difference when I first crushed it. I could actually tell it was there. Once all the oil puked out, it feels like it did before.

I never have really understood why people ran them on PS.

My steering is just a little "twitchy", can't really describe it. Also it does not return to center very well. I had the front end realigned last week. This is my first "lifted 4x4" and I knew it would drive differant than stock, just trying to make it a little better. When I searched on this topic, most of the post I found said use a stabilizer with p/s. I know my 4x4 Ram has both as most of the trucks I have ever had, had both. A panhard bar is on my list, but way down on it.

Terrymac Glenn from RRO suggested I use my stock bracket like you did. I was just looking for more than one option.

JCC :usa:

Sounds like a kingpin problem if it doesn't return to center after a turn. Have you ever rebuilt the front end? Does it feel like you have to steer it back to center? Could be kingpins need to be regreased and bearings replaced. Hope you didn't take it into a shop to get it aligned. That's something you should learn to do yourself (to save money).

BTW I have broken two stock stabalizer brackets (pitman side) since December 02. I'm never putting on another one.

I bought new bearings but ended up just repacking the old ones, they looked ok. I have been working on my Zuk for about six months. I did the lift,power steering and other misc. upgrades by myself, got anxious about driving it again and paid someone to fix rear brakes & flush brake system and realign front end. Working OT and had more money than time lately.
The kingpins may have something to do with it since I had to drill out the bolt holes and install new steering arms with built in kingpins. Also put on new 1 inch lift shackles and am still unsure how much to tighten them up. I'm sure this is causing a little steering slop. JCC:usa:

Those shackles should make it feel like it wanders (squirley). I would check with who you bought your steering from and see what they say. I can't say if drilling the kingpin bolt holes will mess up stuff but it might mess up the shimming.

I can understand not having time. I was out of a vehicle for a month and a half when I did my SPOA. Wife wasn't happy.

JCC: You should really consider a panhard bar. It will fix your axle to prevent the wandering, and if done right it won't interfere with suspension travel. Search this site and others like off-road.com and izook (if they can save it) for ideas. Spidertrax also sells a bolt on kit for $300.

terrymac


Originally posted by JCC
My steering is just a little "twitchy", can't really describe it. Also it does not return to center very well. I had the front end realigned last week. This is my first "lifted 4x4" and I knew it would drive differant than stock, just trying to make it a little better. When I searched on this topic, most of the post I found said use a stabilizer with p/s. I know my 4x4 Ram has both as most of the trucks I have ever had, had both. A panhard bar is on my list, but way down on it.

Terrymac Glenn from RRO suggested I use my stock bracket like you did. I was just looking for more than one option.

JCC :usa:

RRO's over the top steering did not include shims for the king pins and I screwed the factory ones up when I tried to drill them out for the stud/bolts on the new steering arms. JCC