Ok, I'm not wanting to start a flame war here or anything, but I'm just curious to what the big deal is with the hummer rims? Is it because of the inner bead lock, or is it a bragging/poser thing? Street Legality?

As far as I can tell, the benefit of the inner bead lock is outweighed by drawbacks of the flat center section (bends easier) and the exposed threads on the bolts.

Am I missing something?

u dont have to grind the calipers to get them to fit and they have like 5 inch back spacing as aposed to the 2.5 you can get away with. therefor leaving you with a narrower track width. jiMMy

reasons we purchased them

1. double bead lock.
2. price was unbeatable.
3. bling factor.

Originally posted by sceep
reasons we purchased them


3. bling factor. unless you chrome diped them, i see no bling or even installed those tight new spinning while stoped kinda beauty rings. jiMMy

Originally posted by The Jerk
unless you chrome diped them, i see no bling or even installed those tight new spinning while stoped kinda beauty rings. jiMMy

dunno... look pretty "blingy" to mee :Dhttp://usa6x6forums.com/forums/uploads/post-6-1051535231.jpg

For me, the benefits are not having to narrow the full width axles axles on my Toyota because of the 7" backset.

The wheels are also beadlocked inner and outter, and they are pretty dang easy to work with!

All that, and the whole set was about the same price as 1 normal beadlocked wheel.

CAZ

the inner beadlock is the big thing. I know a couple comp drivers that don't run the sponsored radials because they peel them off the inner bead while the outter bead stays locked on a standard beadlock.

and those rims up there look nice :)

Originally posted by Toyman
Ok, I'm not wanting to start a flame war here or anything, but I'm just curious to what the big deal is with the hummer rims? Is it because of the inner bead lock, or is it a bragging/poser thing? Street Legality?

As far as I can tell, the benefit of the inner bead lock is outweighed by drawbacks of the flat center section (bends easier) and the exposed threads on the bolts.

Am I missing something?

The big deal when I bought mine was $25 each US with dual beadlocks. After that... all the other reasons went away.

As for the centre section bending.... Stock? doubt it.

Mine are widened, so I have no problem with "exposed bolts".

-Price
-Backspacing
-Double Beadlock
-Can mount & unmount own tires easily without any $ spent on extra tools

Originally posted by The Jerk
unless you chrome diped them, i see no bling or even installed those tight new spinning while stoped kinda beauty rings. jiMMy

next best thing.. they keep spinning when you stop..

http://www.fourdoorbronco.com/images/DSCF1079.JPG

and if you have the mag runflat you can paint on some numbers like a roulette wheel, flop it on its side, cut the tire off and see who won.. You cant get more bling than that..

http://www.fourdoorbronco.com/images/DSCF1081.JPG

Ya the swoosh sound of the golf balls is mighty nice :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Bronkzilla


next best thing.. they keep spinning when you stop..

http://www.fourdoorbronco.com/images/DSCF1079.JPG


Those look like range ballz....


























THIEF :flipoff2:

i aquired them legally... we used to work at a drive in movie theatre with a driving range across the street.. Whenever we would go and change the movie titles on the marquee (sp?) they would aim for us.. plenty more where that came from.. :flipoff2:

Ok, some more dumb questions, whats the deal with the runflats. There are the mags and pvc ones? Do all hummer rims come with some type of runflat, and do you have to run them? Whats the goin rate for a stock hummer rim? So you find the rims, then send them off to Dean or Daniel and have them cut and rewelded to your specs?

They will fit on the stock brakes on a Ford D60 right??
Whats the average BS everyone is running on a Ford D60 with the stock brakes?

Originally posted by Bushwhacker
Ok, some more dumb questions, whats the deal with the runflats. There are the mags and pvc ones? Do all hummer rims come with some type of runflat, and do you have to run them? Whats the goin rate for a stock hummer rim? So you find the rims, then send them off to Dean or Daniel and have them cut and rewelded to your specs?

They will fit on the stock brakes on a Ford D60 right??
Whats the average BS everyone is running on a Ford D60 with the stock brakes?

runflats = mag or rubber
no you dont have to run them
no they dont all have them

pvc= beadlocks that daniel makes

cost= depends where you get em. cheap though

yes daniel or dean for recenter.

we are running a 4" BS on our 60's.

8 vs 12 bolts??? that big of a deal??

Originally posted by Bushwhacker
8 vs 12 bolts??? that big of a deal?? No. Not that big of a deal.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91386&highlight=radial+and+bolt+and+hummer

AFAIK, the reason it's so easy to find 8-bolt ("bias ply") wheels, is because the military went the 12-bolt version when they switched to radial tires, and added 4 bolts due to the higher air pressures that the radial tires would need.

So is the centrifical force of those golf balls allow you to climb steep angles? I mean they are range balls after all !:flipoff2:


EDIT: did you have to upgrade the brakes with that bling install?

bling bling

http://www.carolina-performance.com/Tires/2003-04-11/000_0003.jpg

yeah, I had hummer wheels, and 42's for a while, then when I bolted them on my Jeep I figured out that I would need special high steer arms, and that the off-set was just rediculous, I would also need wheel spacers if I wanted to be full-width, So I sold them, also they are ugly, and no one knows that they from a hummer anyways, I got my Allied wheels, and couldnt be happier.

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
also they are ugly, and no one knows that they from a hummer anyways

Ok first, who around here gives a shit if they are ugly?

Second, do you really care if anyone knows what they came from?

I got mine because they were about the same price as a set of beadlocked wheels (only had to buy 4 though), I set the b/s to what I wanted, I no longer have to carry a spare rim, they are d.o.t. approved (really no big deal unless mr. popo wants to make a big deal of it), and they are double-beadlocked.

That's about it. Personally I don't see a huge difference in cost/performance between a hummer and a standard beadlock (unless you are losing the inner bead). It is just a personal preference.

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
yeah, I had hummer wheels, and 42's for a while, then when I bolted them on my Jeep I figured out that I would need special high steer arms, and that the off-set was just rediculous, I would also need wheel spacers if I wanted to be full-width, So I sold them, also they are ugly, and no one knows that they from a hummer anyways, I got my Allied wheels, and couldnt be happier.

Booh hoo, who cares no one knows what they are.

The $$ you spent on your allied you could have had your hummers re-centered, had double beadlocks, and used normal hi-steer arms..

Some people.. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
also they are ugly

the main selling point for me IS their ugliness,i'm leaving the flaking olive drab the way it is cause i like em that way:D .

the backspacing works just fine with my dooolly front.

Originally posted by 94YJGuy


Booh hoo, who cares no one knows what they are.

The $$ you spent on your allied you could have had your hummers re-centered, had double beadlocks, and used normal hi-steer arms..

Some people.. :rolleyes:

Yeah but his allied wheels look better any way, hummer wheels, are to much trouble:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

i like mine
http://pics.montypics.com/neo69/2003-03-17/mvc_002f.jpg

I don't think any one brought up the part about most 16.5 inch wheels (outer beadlock, or not) have no saftey beads.

Well I'm about to get a set and I don't think for the price I could get "Allied" rims cheaper, don't get me wrong I looked into getting those first, but with the runflat/dual beadlock it just made the chose easier with the lower cost. I plan on recentering these later if I don't like the offset anyway. That or jump to 17" Allied's when the 39" Krawlers come out:flipoff2: .

Originally posted by Daniel
They dont need a safety bead. they are double beadlocks!

Nilla Can I buy that pic?
Sorry, I was talking about most of the "other" 16.5 rims, not hummers.

Originally posted by nilla
i like mine
http://pics.montypics.com/neo69/2003-03-17/mvc_002f.jpg

Are you Neo from the Indiana Jeepthing??

Rig looks good.

Originally posted by Daniel

Nilla Can I buy that pic?

You can use the pic if you want.

By the way thanks for the centers.

Originally posted by Bushwhacker


Are you Neo from the Indiana Jeepthing??

Rig looks good.

Yep thats me. So hows the TJ coming?

Here's a question... Would you consider running these on the street daily? I drive about 50 miles a day, and I am working on a fullwidth axle project for the yj, and would like to narrow the trac width a bit.
Scott

Originally posted by 94YJGuy
-Price
-Backspacing
-Double Beadlock
-Can mount & unmount own tires easily without any $ spent on extra tools

I think these are most the good points. Another to add is that if you mess up a part of the wheel you dont have to buy the whole thing. I bent this part pretty well and cant get it to seal perfect again. A normal wheel would be trash. All I need now is the outer ring. I think a better question for me would be why not buy a custom backspaced hummer wheel rather then a normal beadlock? Maybe weight, exposed outer bolts?

price, backspacing, double beadlock, mount/unmount, they are cool, they look real good, and they are all around BADASS... IMHO

They are on my "Future Mods" list no doubt. :D

Originally posted by Daniel
THANKS!
Do you have a nice large closeup?



this is the only close up that i have right now
http://pics.montypics.com/neo69/2003-03-17/mvc_003f.jpg

Sweet wheels, but really, stop using the word bling

:flipoff2:

I traded some parts for my hummer rims....Had Dean re-center them with his 3/8 centers.....set the BS at 4 in. CAN'T beat the inner & outter beadlocks with the magnesium runflats rolling on new 39.5 Boggers......BLING BLING BABY......LOL:D :D

hummer rims are definatly not bling. as a matter of fact they are down right ugly. that in it's seff makes them cool and worth owning. now if only i could get them in a 15"or 17"size. 16.5 are just retarded.

Originally posted by camo
16.5 are just retarded.

what's retarded is all these cool new tires and no 16.5's:( .

interco is your friend if ya got hummers :flipoff2:

Originally posted by nilla


Yep thats me. So hows the TJ coming?


Its getting therre. I'm getting ready to do a major overhaul with a Ford HP 60 front and maybe a 14 bolt rear or the FF 60 I already have. I'd like to sell the 4.0,4500,231/4to1 and do a v8 swap, auto and atlas. We'll see how that goes. :)

Okay now one question... I have searched and never found what I was looking for.

The 12 bolts are for Radials and the 8 bolt are for Bias Ply. But Can you run Bias Ply on the 12 bolt ones or would you be just asking for problems???

Originally posted by camo
hummer rims are definatly not bling. as a matter of fact they are down right ugly. that in it's seff makes them cool and worth owning. now if only i could get them in a 15"or 17"size. 16.5 are just retarded. What do you mean? Daniel sells 15's

Originally posted by Aquaman
What do you mean? Daniel sells 15's

uhm............ i dont think so.... theres no such thing as a 15" hummer wheel. is there? :confused:

hmm :confused:

I emailed him about 15x12's, and 15x10's. Maybe he was talkin about diff wheels. I assumed that he took the hummer design, and had them remachined or something. :(

Originally posted by Aquaman
hmm :confused:

I emailed him about 15x12's, and 15x10's. Maybe he was talkin about diff wheels. I assumed that he took the hummer design, and had them remachined or something. :(
ooohhhhh daaaannniiieeelll where aaaaaare yooou?

i want a set of 15" hummer wheels BAD!

Originally posted by Daniel
Nilla thanks for the pic... can I use it for my site?



yeah you can use it

Originally posted by Daniel
yes we have made 15 in and 17 in hummer style double beadlock wheels.
no they are not ready for the public yet.

Daniel it is cool that you are making them in 15's but will you be able to pick them up for only $10 a piece, i doubt that but it would be SWEET, there is some yokel around here who has an abundance of militaru supplus shit and he was selling HUMA WIMS for $10, cant be that with a stick:eek:

I must be missing something here, I just picked up a set of hummer wheels this morning and it's a two piece wheel. So what locks the bead????? Enlighten please....

Originally posted by ASH
I must be missing something here, I just picked up a set of hummer wheels this morning and it's a two piece wheel. So what locks the bead????? Enlighten please....

its a 3 piece wheel ;)

go here. http://usa6x6forums.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=337

Originally posted by sceep


its a 3 piece wheel ;)

go here. http://usa6x6forums.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=337

Thanks Sceep, I guess I need to price me out some new centers and the bead locks. I have seen the light!!:D

Originally posted by Bad Azz DODGE
Okay now one question... I have searched and never found what I was looking for.

The 12 bolts are for Radials and the 8 bolt are for Bias Ply. But Can you run Bias Ply on the 12 bolt ones or would you be just asking for problems???

nobody knows or what???

I have found a set of 12 bolt but I have been holding off getting them because I don't want to run radials.

What I understand is the 12 bolt rim is the one to get because you can run either a bias ply or a radial tire on them. However, I'm sure that plenty of people are running radials on 8 bolt wheels without any problems because they are on very light weight rigs that don't run hardly any pressure in the tires anyway.

Daniel, that's a good looking rim. It would be nice to get a little more info like WHEN CAN I BUY A SET!!!!? Some 17s would be nice with about 3.5 to 4" of BS and about 9" in width. Also, what is the center thickness? I'm sure that I speak for a whole bunch of people when I voice my concern about the center being too thin and flexible, especially on the 17" wheel. Oh, and one last question, do they have safety beads? I don't want to insult anyone's intelligence but, with the internal beadlock, safety beads only make it a pain in the ass to change tires with trail tools, which is one of the great things about internal beadlock rims.

Originally posted by Daniel
yes we have made 15 in and 17 in hummer style double beadlock wheels.
no they are not ready for the public yet. How much longer do you think? How much (if you have any idea, or feel like estimating) money?

Knowing me, they'll probably be out for 3 months before I have the money for them, hehe.

BTW... are those the wheels that you were referring to when you replied to my Email? (do you remember me? lol)

as far as the magnesium ring...it sucks...

i cut mine down and left an inch on the height of it....aired down to 8 lbs....cut the sidewall of a new SX....luckily a patch held up fine...

now time for the PVC ones! daniel...how soon can i get a set of those?

Originally posted by Bad Azz DODGE


nobody knows or what???

I have found a set of 12 bolt but I have been holding off getting them because I don't want to run radials.

The difference between the 8 bolt wheels and the 12 bolt wheels has little to do with the tire and more to do with the way they changed the wheel. On an 8 bolt wheel the weight of the vehicle rides wheels mounting flange in the main part of the wheel and the outer part is held on by the 8 bolts. On a 12 bolt wheel the wheel mounting surface is on the outter part of the wheel. So the weight is on the 12 bolts holding the wheel together that is untill you cut out the wheel mounting surface and weld in a new center. At that point the weight will then be back on the main part of the wheel again. So either wheel will work with either type of tire construction. IMO

Originally posted by Daniel
avalable now just waiting on the correct orings
cost @185 ea...delivered 10"

Please forgive me as most of my day is answering emails now and it is impossible to keep all the names:)

Yea, I understand. You told me 15x10's were 185, and 15x12's were 200. Then I replied, making sure that was "each", and you confirmed, that yes, it was "each". :D