went to the local boneyard today to get a toyota power steering box to put on my series, and while there started looking around. right towards the back corner, near all the JUNK, whatever did i find but two late 60s-early 70s GM pickups :D

lo and behold, BOTH of them have eaton rear axles :D:D:D

one of them is what i assume to be a CC truck (has a huge utility body on it) and the other is a "custom camper".

i go back tomorrow morning to pull both of them, or at least the easier one from the "custom camper" (has no bed on it, easy to get to)

oh, and the price:D guy in the office said $150 for each axle :flipoff2:

and no, i am not divulging the name of this junkyard to interested parties :D but i will have an eaton rearend for sale soon, hopefully.

SCORE!!!!!!

ps- this is for the range rover

Is this for the RR you are selling? Why do custome mods to a rig you are selling?

-Jeff

well, everything is for sale for a price isnt it? :D since the range rover hasnt sold we are going ahead with really modifying it.

i guess i should remove it from my sig

So what exactly makes the old Eaton's so desirable? :confused:

Rover guys are the only ones singing there praise. Do they have a built in oil leak or something?

offset and huge.

if the eaton thing doesnt pan out i also found a few offset 60s and 70s from dodge vans, but the eaton is the number one choice right now. i just spent a little while searching the web for specs on them, but i didnt find much. i will keep looking, or maybe someone could help?

oh yeah, they also came from the factory with 4.56 or 5.13 gears, and some with a detroit locker as well. cab and chassis axles are 63" wide, so it would be the right offset, the right width, and already have good gears and a locker for potentially as little as $150

they are not worth crap unless they have a detroit!

Ron

Originally posted by evilfij
they are not worth crap unless they have a detroit!

Ron

whats that sound? *bzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*"

oh i think its the sound of WELDING :flipoff2:

obviously it would be better if it had a detroit, but if not... meh! :D

mr. cooper says that a 14 bolt detroit locker will fit right in the stock carrier, and that there are some factory 14B shafts that will direct swap with the stock eaton ones to give 1.5" 30 spline :D:D:D

**update**

went back today, after pulling the PS box i need for my series i checked out the one easily accessibly eaton. it is a regular (wide) version and has 4.10s and an open carrier :( also there was some nasty corrosion on the ring gear.

sometime in the coming week i am going to go back and take a look at the CC rearend, i didnt have time or access to take the cover off of it.

Originally posted by Old Scout
So what exactly makes the old Eaton's so desirable? :confused:

Rover guys are the only ones singing there praise. Do they have a built in oil leak or something?

Just have to ask the same question that Scout posed, why not the common run of the mil 60, for close to the same price. Hell, surely there are more parts available. And if 14b parts bolt right in, whats the point. If your gona get an Eaton, get a big rig axle:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Every time I've walked past an Eaton in a yard here on the W coast, they are unmollested amongst all of the other axles which are missing carriers, shafts, etc.

I'm guessing that it's strictly because it's offset.

You could take a dodge 60 for a buck fifty, throw in a Lincoln locker :D , and add disk brakes for 250.

I think the thing with the Eaton is that even though it's a serious 'mod' or 'upgrade' or whatever you want to call it, I believe that somewhere deep down inside the Rover people like the fact that they can say that it was a 'factory' axle available from like 1965 or something.

Just my opinion.

It's big, fat, heavy, and ugly. Perfect for a Land Rover.

Originally posted by Serious One

It's big, fat, heavy, and ugly. Perfect for a Land Rover.


I certainly wouldn't say the same thing about my mother-in-law...:flipoff2:

OH yeah...wait'll LeAnn hears about this! :D

I believe that somewhere deep down inside the Rover people like the fact that they can say that it was a 'factory' axle available from like 1965 or something.

Just my opinion.



Just your opinion or BCB's?

Sounds like everyone on this list that as touting the Eaton as the 'biggest and baddest' has had a lengthy conversation with the Timm man.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

What he says about that axel (and especially the 3rd) is, as usual. right on the money...I just don't like them because the lowest you can go is 5:13.

Now if you have a machine shop and can fab up your very own crawler box...Well then, that's a different story altogether!

-D

No, that's my impression of people who have been talking to Timm. I do not particularly care about Eaton's since I know the likelihood of me ever wanting one is LOW.

Yeah, Timm touts the Eaton like it's the Bee's Knee's (trademark), and frankly I have to agree with you. Since Timm's been talking about it perhaps that's the reason why it's popularity is soaring.

Dunno, but IMO the reason that many Rover people might like it is the fact that it was indeed offered as a factory option, and is the strongest 'factory' axle offered by Rover.

Weather there's something better/faster/stronger (trademark) is definitely open to debate.

My reason for thinking an Eaton is cool is for the drop in third member, and its plenty strong. The reality is I dont need an axle with that much beef. (If you try to quote me on this in a few years Ill deny it)

The down side is not as many gearing options, and no ARB.

Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions......

-Jeff

Eaton facts.

1.55" shafts, almost 1.75" at the spline. 17 spline.

4.10-6.72 ratios

10.5" ring gear

Welded, not cast, housing - light

Removable carrier making setup easy

14B shafts and locker swap in, supposedly.

centered front factory, but flipping the housing and putting the
pig in the "back" of the housing nets you 8" offset

Strong ring gear - comparable to a 14 bolt

2" diameter pinion shaft

Factory detroits, still available once in a while (not available new)

available 63" wide from a C&C

similar to factory ENV rear end but not identical - actually a bit

larger than the factory ENV found in IIBs and 1 tons.

Most common ratios are 4.10, 4.57 and 5.14.

Stronger than a 60, already offset and the right width...

Originally posted by RockRover

What he says about that axel (and especially the 3rd) is, as usual. right on the money...I just don't like them because the lowest you can go is 5:13.

-D

The gear selection sucks, you are right. However, I think I read somewhere that a 6.72 was available, perhaps only in the 12.5" ring gear eaton...

BWAHHAH! I blew one up in 1981 in my drag car. They had a variant with a goofy locker/LSD with lots of parts. When they blow up, they twist the ends of the axles in opposite directions, making axle extraction VERY difficult. The semi-floater and ease of disassembly are advantageous until you bend the axles and the housing when you blow it up.

Some of the high perf. 57 Chevys came with an Eaton rear-end with the cool locker/LSD, and that was where mine supposedly came from, but when I bought a third member and axles from a 57, I learned (too late) that mine had apparently come from a newer truck as the axles and bearings were way bigger than those out of the car.

I was unaware that the 5.13s were stock, I took eight teeth off the ring gear and cracked every tooth on the pinion missing a shift, still went too fast and broke out. Didn't realize I'd done it until the next day when I corked up the headers and tried to back it out of the garage. I never want to feel that sensation again, broken ring gears are very distinctive, especially when eight teeth are missing in a row!

Fortunately, few Rovers have the horsepower a dual carbureted SBC has! The axles should last far longer in a Rover than it did for me.

Peace,
Paul

paul, you are talking about a very different animal. trust me. 10.5" ring gear, 1.55" shafts all coming stock in a 57 chevy? no. eaton was (and is still) a manufacturer of axle parts as well as axle assemblies. they make many, many limited slips diffs for nearly every application out there and im sure this is what you had in your drag car- a chevy rearend (maybe an eaton, but not the 8 lug FF truck version) with an eaton limited slip in it.

Yeah, Adam, I learned it wasn't what it had been purported to be when I tried to put '57 chevy parts in it. Never did find out what it was. While it was together, it was the thing to have. With 5.13 gears and two 650 CFM vacuum secondary carburetors, it screamed-until I broke it... Replaced it with a 12 bolt and 4.88s.

Peace,
Paul