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Al Kaholick
05-03-2003, 06:25 PM
where can I get one? Im really not very knowledgeable about guns but would like to have one. I think there are kits to build them, but I havent had much luck with a yahoo search. Anyone know a good kit? I do know that I want a pistol not a rifle, other than that Im pretty open.

Berg
05-03-2003, 06:40 PM
It should be a law that all the Gansta's use black powder weapons.. it would make the drive by shootings interesting!:eek:

Lil Uzi
05-03-2003, 06:40 PM
Cabellas has finished guns for under $200 IIRC. Lots of fun.
Cabellas (http://www.cabelas.com/)

Revolvers (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jhtml?id=cat20817&navAction=jump&navCount=1&parentId=cat20712&parentType=category&rid=)

ForestCam
05-03-2003, 07:43 PM
You'll shoot your eye out!:flipoff2:

nakona
05-03-2003, 07:47 PM
Everything you need to know is right here. (http://www.logcabinshop.com/)

Mo
05-03-2003, 07:57 PM
goddam racist firearms


:flipoff2:

Hef
05-03-2003, 09:09 PM
By assault rifles instead. :flipoff2:

Hef

Hickeyjones
05-03-2003, 10:58 PM
How bout a black powder canon? I used to have a 35 mm, made a lot of noise..:D

TexasBlake
05-03-2003, 10:59 PM
Why's it gotta be black yo?

Al Kaholick
05-03-2003, 11:58 PM
how about this one?link (http://www.allabouthunting.com/store/products/productDisplay.asp?manufacturer=CVA&model=KENTUCKY+PISTOL+KIT)

Mtn.Mike
05-04-2003, 08:10 AM
Try this link. It has kits and complete rifles.
www.dixiegun.com/

jds4x43
05-04-2003, 08:46 AM
If you want a pistol then stay away from from the "hogleg" pistols as in the link you posted, most of them are not very accurate and they are kind hard to hold on to and load at the same time. If you are not familiar with muzzleloading shooting and the gun care rituals that go along with it then I highly reccomend a stainless pistol, they don't rust if you don't clean them perfectly. Cabela's has some pretty good deals on their guns. For a beginner, start with a cheap Italian pistol until you learn to shoot it and learn to clean it religiously. Only buy a pistol with a top strap over the cylinder, an built on a steel frame. Brass framed, strapless pitols are cheaper to buy but after extended use the frame will bend down just in front of the cylinder and that causes major problems, for the gun and you. If you are looking to purchase a very good gun then I would highly reccomend anything by Thompson Center, CVA is another pretty good name although their quality isn't as good as TC.

If you have anymore questions let me know I'll try to help you. I've been shooting muzzleloaders since I was 5. I shoot for fun, hunt with them, and shoot semi-competively.

John

nakona
05-04-2003, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by jds4x43
If you want a pistol then stay away from from the "hogleg" pistols as in the link you posted, most of them are not very accurate and they are kind hard to hold on to and load at the same time.

Never had any problem with mine and I can break feathers at 25 yards with it.

AzWebMan
05-04-2003, 06:41 PM
I was thinking about buying a Hawkins 50 Cal a while back. Found out Walmart doesn't stock them, but they can get them. They had a catalog that they let me browse through. Seems like they had kits and already built Muzzle Loaders from every major vendor.

nakona
05-04-2003, 06:58 PM
Don't buy a kit, even if someone else has already assembled it.

Factory rifles have a lifetime warranty on the barrel. Kits don't.

(Talking about Thompson-Center here, and assuming their policy hasn't changed in the last few years.)

Rockcrusher
05-04-2003, 07:19 PM
The most popular front stuffin' long guns would be .45, .50, .54 and .58 calibre. Short guns can be had in .36 caliber.

If you're just going to play around the .45 is OK. For deer hunting in CA I would go with a .50 or a .54 caliber. If elk or pig hunting is your thing go for the .58 cal. Stick with a percussion gun 'cause flinters can be a pain in the ass.

Check out these guys

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/

Always remember . . . Powder - Patch - Ball

0ILBURNER
05-05-2003, 12:42 PM
Good buddy of mine bought a .50 cal black powder job at Bass Pro Shop. It came with synthetic (read plastic) stock and an el cheapo scope, but after about 5 reloads, I could hit a coke can (looking at it's top) every time @ 120 yards. ;)

Danger Ranger
05-05-2003, 02:19 PM
Yeah everyone arm up! soon you'll only be allowed to defend your freedom with a flint lock :rolleyes:

SilverZuk
05-05-2003, 02:35 PM
Get a dixie gunworks catalog and also a book on blackpowder shooting.

You may want to shoot someone else's before buying.
Some people hate it other love it.

I'm to the point that I prefer my black powder guns to my traditional.
I love my shotgun. Go for quality. I’ve had several cheap one’s, and the barrels wear out after several years. Thompson Center, Marlin, Knight and Hale, etc. You get what you pay for.

You HAVE to clean them after each day of shooting, even if you shoot once. They make “clean shot powder” that is a smokeless powder converted to function in BP guns. I still don’t trust it. I clean them every time. Some people hate this fact, but if you put it up dirty it will be junk overnight.

I’m still waiting fore someone to come out with a cherry flavored powder or cleaner. My wife hates the rotten egg smell every time I clean them in the house.

SanDiegoCJ
05-05-2003, 02:41 PM
A while back I got a chance to shoot a buddies original .52cal
rifled Sharps. Lots of fun. The only problem is waited for the
cloud of smoke to clear so you can see the target again. :D

SilverZuk
05-05-2003, 02:48 PM
I hunt with mine.
I have shot deer and afterwards you see several deer run off and don't have a clue if one was the one I was aiming for.

You have to take several steps away to see around the cloud of smoke.
The shotgun is the same way. Small game involves shooting, listening for a thud (if airborne or in a tree), then a thorough search in the vicinity to find it.

It's much more challenging than traditional firearms.

Sharps are fine rifles, I have shot the 45-70 quite a bit.
We were using modern cartridges in a repro gun.

nakona
05-05-2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Rockcrusher
If you're just going to play around the .45 is OK. For deer hunting in CA I would go with a .50 or a .54 caliber. If elk or pig hunting is your thing go for the .58 cal. Stick with a percussion gun 'cause flinters can be a pain in the ass.


Just get a .50 and carry .490 balls with .010 patch.

It's the most popular caliber and if for some reason you forget something at home and have to buy at the last minute or borrow from another hunter you'll be OK.
That's because while you might have to settle for an .015 patch or a .495 ball, you'll only add up to .505 and you can still ram that home.

Plus there ain't no game in NA that you can't kill with a .50, although on anything bigger than a deer I suggest buffalo bullets instead of roundball.

Aron82
05-06-2003, 01:44 AM
Here is my double barrel 44 cap and ball pistol. This thing is a blast to shoot. the only marking on the gun is corsair and Italy.
I would get a cartridge rifle before buying a black powder. They are fun to shoot, and fairly cheep too.

http://pics.montypics.com/aron82/2003-05-06/1052206722_black_powder.jpg

bluebellyday
05-06-2003, 05:18 AM
There is only one name you need to know when it comes to
blackpowder shooting or hunting.


Thompson Center (http://www.tcarms.com/)

http://www.tcarms.com/tclogo.jpg