ok here is the plan for this weekend i want to put 4" yj springs on my scout in a sua this in theroy should work well once i make the proper mounts dose this sound like a dumb idea to aney one or should i give it a shot oh ya and the springs where free so im not out aney cash

I severely doubt that YJ springs will hold up to the weight of a Scout. I know stockers won't, I can't imagine even the stiffest lift spring being strong enough to handle a 800lb IH motor. If you do it try leave you stock mounts in place so you can switch back. Personally if your going to go through the hassle why not just spring the bitch over on stock springs. Then you know what you're getting into and you know the results will be worthwhile.
Travis

Sure, you can do it, but you won't get much lift out of them.

ok here is my point has aney one actuly done this if not what is the harm in trying the same spring hold up my buddys bib block cj with a 12000 pound winch and a 150 pound bumper so i dont think the wight is that much of a problem but it isent like i cant un do it the yj springs just flex so much better than stock scout springs and i just dont feel like doing a soa or else i would the meney hours grinding the housing are not what i want to do

Yes I have done it. I used 4" YJ springs on the front of my Scout 80. My 80 is lighter than a Scout II, and my engine weighs about 200 lbs less, so there is a lot less weight on the front springs. The springs are almost flat. Hence, the 2.5" springs on a heavier Scout II will give work but they will give VERY LITTLE LIFT.

SOA they will work ok, SUA it won't be much higher than stock.

thanks for the info Ben W
ill give it some mor though befor i go to damn far with this

If you want Jeep springs why not go with the infamous 44044's??? I know alot of Toys and Jeeps are using them.....and If you think about it the old Jeeps that they are made for is a hell of a lot closer to the same size of a Scout than a YJ......I would bet the weight is closer too.

Anyone try the 44044's on a Scout? Any mods needed? Let me know if anyone has info on putting them on a Scout, I am thinking of going this route when I get the time........

thanks.

I got a set of wagoneer springs that I thought about using on my traveller Idont know just toying with the Idea what yall think?

ok i might be dumb but what are 44044 who makes them what do thay fit and all that good stuff

I have a set of 44044's on the front of my Scout 80. They are too stiff for my Scout, but I am going to pull a leaf to correct this. They might work great for a Scout II.

how much lift might i get out 44044 i want to get at least 2" of lift more is better but i just trying to get something on there till i have time to do a soa like i can send the diff out for a month to get it turned and such

ok i might be dumb but what are 44044 who makes them


Yeah, your dumb. Just kidding. They are Rancho springs for a Jeep Wagoneer. Alot of guys use them for the front of Toyota pickups/4runners. They are getting about 4-5 inches of lift out of them, I don't know what that would calculate to on a Scout though.......



I have a set of 44044's on the front of my Scout 80. They are too stiff for my Scout, but I am going to pull a leaf to correct this. They might work great for a Scout II.


No shit they are too stiff??? I would have thought that they would work better with more weight on them like that of a Scout, I would think even the Scout 80 would be more wieght than a Toy........

At any rate, I too think they would work great on a Scout, I will see someday when I have the time.........

I originally had stock waggy's on the front. When I put the Rancho's on, I got about 3.5" of lift.

As for them working great on Toyotas...remember that Toy's are typically a rear flex vehicle so stiff front springs wouldn't be that noticable. My Scout was very flexy in front with the stock waggy springs. Now, the rear is taking up the slack caused by the stiff front.

Here's an example:

With the stock waggy's on the front and my Land Rover's on the rear, I had about an inch of clearance between the fender and the rear tires when fully stuffed. I swapped to the Rancho's in front and put in 3" blocks in the rear. So theoretically, I should have about 4" of clearance in the rear when fully stuffed. However, I only have 1/2" now. The rear is doing about 65% of the work now. Hopefully, pulling the one leaf from the front will bring it back to more of a 50/50 split.

how long are the 44044 springs and aproximetly how much flex are you getting ininches i know there not working right but i would like to know if you have that number handy

The waggy springs are 46" long with a 2" off-set center pin.

I don't have measurements for how much they stuff but here are some pics of me stuffed vs normal. In the first pics, I am actually teatering (sp?) on 2 wheels--the pass front and driver rear. It's not going to stuff mre than that. It took alot of work just to get it to stuff this much.

The waggy springs are 46" long with a 2" off-set center pin.

I don't have measurements for how much they stuff but here are some pics of me stuffed vs normal. In the first pics, I am actually teatering (sp?) on 2 wheels--the pass front and driver rear. It's not going to stuff more than that. It took alot of work just to get it to stuff this much.

Here's the only normal pic that I could find

looks good maby ill half to go this why at least it is a new idea

Originally posted by ERICS89YJ
ok here is the plan for this weekend i want to put 4" yj springs on my scout in a sua this in theroy should work well once i make the proper mounts dose this sound like a dumb idea to aney one or should i give it a shot oh ya and the springs where free so im not out aney cash

Don't do it... or don't plan on any lift with it. Sure you don't have any money, but if you go an modify your Scout for the 2.5" springs (or whatever they are) you'll have a heck of a time re-modifying it back when they don't work.

In summary, My .02 = :barf:

Originally posted by Snoopy


Don't do it... or don't plan on any lift with it. Sure you don't have any money, but if you go an modify your Scout for the 2.5" springs (or whatever they are) you'll have a heck of a time re-modifying it back when they don't work.

In summary, My .02 = :barf:

So you think he should stay with the $hitty stock springs?:rolleyes:

well the stockers got to go

Originally posted by ERICS89YJ
well the stockers got to go

Makes good sense...

Remember, there are tons of 2.5" wide springs. If the YJ's dont work that well, you can also try others...My guess is that the YJ's will work great but you probably won't get that much lift out of then. Maybe 3" of lift cause of the Heavy Scout. Definitely go SOA (I don't remember if you had planned on doing this or not.)

well thanks for all the great help to bad i may not beale to do this after all i half to sell my beloved scout to pay rand and things so if i figure out a way to keep it il will deinatly do a soa with the yj for the extra lift to clear 36-12.50-15 that i want thanks all for the great help and i hope i get to keep the scout but if not ill find a nothe one as soon as i can