Ok, so the title should say it all. In light of the recent its not a rover if you change it thread, I thought I would see what you guys think.

Ok, so i am not going to swap axles or anything jeepish like that, but I feel bad beating the ass end of my D-90 up. I have pondered truck cabbing it, bringing the wheel base out to 101, and tubing out the rear. I have also thought about making a bill look alike sorta. (its not copying, since it is my design mostly) Or, I could go the Sam route, and make plenty "o" room in the wheel wells, and add some wheel base. Or I could jsut leave it alone, and continue with other mods.

So what should i do guys.

with the way i have my fenders cut i could stuff a 38 no problem, and thats with literally no bumpstops. its not quite as extreme as the sam route but it works for me, since i still wanted some body to retain the rover look and functionality.

personally, when i eventually get around to it, im going to go with a truck cab and build a toyota style flatbed for the back of it (not like bills, much simpler) and be done with it. my tub is pretty thrashes as is, i think that will be next winters project. at the same time i will probably stretch the WB to the high 90s.

Originally posted by Puffdragon

So what should i do guys.

Something cool, radical, unique, different, revolutionary, and the likes of which we've never seen before.

Or, just do whatever the hell you want.

Either way it'll kick butt.

:flipoff2:

Odd ..... J. Tisdale & I were talking this morning about doing something similiar to my 90. yeah ... why not? .... of course, if i had a Mog, I probably wouldn't.

........ if I cab and tube mine, I'll probably end up buying another stock 90 ... or preferably 110. Hmmm ..... where's my plasma cutter??. :D
T

I vote truck cab and tube.
Cut up the front similar to Sam and Doug.(keepig headlights)
Tube out the rear........try to shave off as much weight as you can in the process. Extend wheelbase to close to 100" with 90* approach and departure angles.
Extended front Radius Arms ala bronco style all new links in the rear tubed section.

Do ONLY what your heart tell's you man. If you dive in half way you'll regret it.

That said :) I really like the idea of dove-tailing the rear. You could build it out of pure tube, plate and steel, but weight should be a consideration.

The stock beds (as your aware) are flippin heavy bastids (considering they are aluminum!).

Check the Gen forum...A guy over there did an awesome dove-tail job to a CJ tub...Granted it's a little easier working with steel than bermabrite (sp?)....But the advantages of a 2' tapper are huge.

Of course (IMO) you should seriously consider a axle swap if your going that far...Bottom line is you'll never get away with the lack of strength in the R&P...Even with 3:54's...Remember the more mod's you do the more sick lines you'll hammer with a vengence. Especially true now that you have the experience with the Mog!

--D

You are planning to cut up the tub on your D90 and make it look all rock buggy-like but not do any actual upgrades to the drivetrain? Are you copying off Adam?? :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
-Regards
-Ike

I kinda dig the "stock" look with big tires and lots of body damage. I really like the way they look after you hammer it back flat and it is kinda wavy. If you are going huge tires with axle swap then tube it or whatever otherwise just take a more progressive attitude toward damage.

Ron

Chop Chop :vader2:

I love watchin you guys chop - I have chop envy :D

Stretch it and get that body inside the wheel base. I think we deserve a treat - so something new and unexpected please...:D

Originally posted by RockRover
Do ONLY what your heart tell's you man. If you dive in half way you'll regret it.

That said :) I really like the idea of dove-tailing the rear. You could build it out of pure tube, plate and steel, but weight should be a consideration.

The stock beds (as your aware) are flippin heavy bastids (considering they are aluminum!).

--D

How heavy is the stock tub? I haven't had myne off of the D90, but I replaced the one on the series, it was light, I picked it up myself?

As for to cut or not:

plug in the sawzall and fire up the welder, do what you want, its your truck.. I like the dove tailing on the rear... I love how the pickup cab looks, but I have one on my series and its kinda cozy in there and breaks up the load space, but if you stretch it to 101" that'll solve that ( then you use Mike's 101 axles to :D )


I'n not into this purist BS
:flipoff2:

TUBE IT!:flipoff2:

I voted the Bill route. I think that his rear bed looks great and is incredibly practical.

Mine with the stock full width rear guards is just a PITA. Ive now got 9in of tyre poking out the back and about 12in of tyre poking out the side and I still manage to hit a rear corner every time I take it out for a run. Ive straightened then out a couple of times (Im getting good at panel beating them) and they havent lasted more than a week before they get hit again.

I would either build something solid for a rear bed, dove tail it, or go the full tube. Do anything but have a stock body hanging back there.

Sam

The reason why you should do it: your creative fab skills would lead to a very cool and different finished project.

The reason why you shouldn't do it: you seem to wheel the mog in difficult terrain, not the 90, and why go that far with a stockish drive train.

Tis

You know, I like Bill's truck alot, but... I say go the sleeper route.

Keep as much 90 as possible in looks for the stealth factor. IMHO there is nothing cooler than spanking people in a "stock" looking rig. Most people don't know what is "stock" on our rigs so that helps.

I like the truck cab idea if you are going to cut it, with redoing the wheel tubs.

If your are going to compete in it, well it's a moot point. Tube it then.
j

Keep as much 90 as possible in looks for the stealth factor. IMHO there is nothing cooler than spanking people in a "stock" looking rig. Most people don't know what is "stock" on our rigs so that helps.

FAWK YES!!! Sleepers rule . . . .

you already have the mog...

Ok, just a bit more info, if I do any of these mods, I have all the parts to rebuild the truck back to stock form. The only major part i do not have is the frame, if i hack the frame, I will be out around $1300.00 if I want to go back to stock form. That being said, i will never put my 90 back to anything close to stock.

Also, if i truck cab, i have the option of the Doug, or Bill route. but if I go the sam route, I cannot go any other way after, without tearing into another bed, and painting, or buying truck cab parts.

Oh, and trust me Doug, the stock drive train will not remain to long. I will keep it just long enough to show off my new HD shafts and CV's, and then its outta there. Although, I am very nice to the rover drive train, as i dont "GET IT" all that much, that is why i have the MOG, it GETS IT!!!:D

Originally posted by tomw


How heavy is the stock tub? I haven't had myne off of the D90, but I replaced the one on the series, it was light, I picked it up myself?



Well, my NAS bed, complete with the side bars, x-brace behind the seats, and down tubes at the corners, tail gate, etc. weighed in at 'a snort or two' out of two big guy's trying to lift it over the x-member and 35" tires. Best guess would be about 150lbs complete.

And KC, there is never any turning back. I used that rationalization when I 'went to town'...Put her back to stock?...Yea RIGHT! Actually if I ever do become old and rickety I might consider such a move, but for now...Well, I just can't see it.

Considering a portal mod are you? ;)

--D


I'n not into this purist BS
:flipoff2:

No portals for me. The Mog is the portal monster. If I beat the Mog body up to much, it will get tubed, and basically turned into a Buggy. Of course my current buggy is still sitting in the shop waiting for some more tube, and a new crank for the 350, as well as a tranny, t-case, etc etc etc but it will have a 70/60 combo. I love portals, but they are a bit more than i want to deal with at this time. Besides, I figure i need more seat time behind a non portal rig, so i can get back to the reality of offroading. I have been spoiled by fawkin portals you dont have to steer around anything :D :D Portals suck big time!!!:rolleyes:

All my shiat is done on a budget too $0, so portals are a long way off.

sleeper...

if you have a mog for hard-wheeling...then keep the D90 stock...as was previously said...I too enjoy the the long faces when my stockish Disco gets to the top easier than other trucks that "look mean"...

You must get some deals working on a budget of $0. To have a built NAS D90, a mog, all those tools, an Early Bronco. My budget is a solid $5 and I cant seem to afford a third of that stuff. Maybe cost of living is higher in Indiana . . .:flipoff2:
-Regards
-Ike

Well, all the chop talk got me thinking. I mean I already cut the top off, what's a little dove tail?!? :flipoff2:

Anyway, it's not a D-90 but everyone says my G looks like one. Here's a quick Photoshop hack to dove-tail the G-wagen. Might give you ideas.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/extreme/pics/dove/dove.jpg

The origional photo. You can see the difference in how much that corner hangs out there.

http://www.clubgwagen.com/extreme/mods/rsus/rsus8.jpg

Chop it Q that looks bitchin. I am not a hug fan of dove tailing, but that looks good.

Q!

If you're gonna photochop that G-Waggin' you should have at least put some bling 22 inchers on it or straightened out that license plate. :flipoff2:

Amateurs! :rolleyes:

You mean like this? :p

http://www.benzworld.org/gallery/pics/gclass_17428.jpg

I was trying to explain what 'pimp mobile' was to a Norweigen.

Man, I'm a total hack in PS. I know just enough to get a vauge idea of what's on the brain and then i proceed to under-achieve!

dude that's PHAT!

I'll start a new thread about 'choppin'.