Is this a really trick setup or total booty fab? The revolving Spring mounts/the ghetto lookin housing.

Nother angle. Note this is not my Jeep. Just wonderin.

Here's his link setup before the Bling Bling paint.

Whole Jeep + Flex he got from the setup. Poser pic fo' sure.

booty fab or not.. i think it was unecessary you could achieve that much flex without something ridiculous like that.. and with a more contemporary design

Well I asked the guy that built it the same question.
He said ti works fine and that when he flexs it there is not much stree on the spring pads at all.

Here is the original thread.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139680


Ken C

From the last picture it seems the rear out flexes the front cause the setup to be unbalanced.

well, i've seen worse looking axle bracing. but no way would i trust that little arm to hold my spring there.
ps: i've seen leaf spring set ups with more flex than that:D

I see nothing there that a better set coils would not accomplish - and a good coil would eliminate the "unloaded" situation on droop...

so whats up with it not working @ al in the flex pic? is it just bolted down for "highway use" ? :confused:

I think that it is a viable idea, ALOT more so than the door hinge bracket on the 6x6tj

On the flex picture, the spring is not leaving the axle. So in that picture the whole idea seems useless. But the links holding these plates are probably sturdy enough. What sideway forces are there? No violent ones for sure.

I don't think it's booty, I just disagree with the whole "uncontrolled droop" thing. He's got some nice coil retainers, the swing arms are stout enough to do their job. The heims in his 3 links are turned the wrong way, and they should be bigger because they are 3 links, but - other than that...

seen many worse setups out there...

IMHO, it is the same basic idea as a revolver shackle, but it's for a coil set up.

I'd like it if it were more stout. Wonder what happens on hills though? Let him be the guinea pig, maybe he's got a good idea. I'd liek to see it front and rear though, instead of just rear.

Looks like 1/4 elliptic with coils :D

Originally posted by Aquaman
IMHO, it is the same basic idea as a revolver shackle, but it's for a coil set up.

I'd like it if it were more stout. Wonder what happens on hills though? Let him be the guinea pig, maybe he's got a good idea. I'd liek to see it front and rear though, instead of just rear.

I'm with Aquaman.

It looks like a good concept, but I have a feeling that once "used and abused", the guy will be adding some more "beef".

It would be interesting to see how it works on the trail.
I wonder if the spring pads would actually ever unload out on the trail, unless it was strictly a poser shot or when you really didn't want/need it to.

Kinda shady...

Here's where I think the weak point is.
It's inevitable that the spring is going to eventually see these types of forces.

Originally posted by SilverZuk
Here's where I think the weak point is.
It's inevitable that the spring is going to eventually see these types of forces.


My thought exactly That looks really weak, like one good jolt and it will break right off, just looks too small and usually when you notice that its going to be the weak point!~

I might be off base but the coils don't locate the axle at all - the links do that - so if the links don't fail, the little hinge thingy should be fine. I don't like the unlimited droop aspect of the suspention, but if the linkage is well designed I think it should hold up just fine.

Definitley not a well set up suspension.

But then again, its all about flex isn't it. :rolleyes:

Killer Booty setup.

It would be fine if he welded the coil pads to the axle and used some bigger joints with the single joints being about 5 times bigger and turned 90 degrees.

I don't see anything neccesarily wrong w/the way the coils are setup, but I don't like the fact that they disconnect. IMO, the disconnecting springs is a ramp-champ setup.

What I do see wrong is that the shocks are hooked to the spring pad, and not the axle. If it starts hopping, whats gonna stop it?

Pete

A budy of mine up in my hometown is running a set up simmilar to this only his is way bootie fab, His looks like the pic but instead of running two cups to hold it he made two half rings , butt welded a nut in between them, and made a swivle setup where the cup rests, hes only ramped it once and man the axle walks over, Its not going to be cool standing next to him when the coil doesnt line up with the cup and it shoots outta there at someone!

I don't see anything really wrong with the design.Could use bigger hiems.I do think the shocks should be connected to the axle though.I also don't think it needs the disconnecting coil pad.Looking at the flex shot I think it has enough without it.:D

I would be concerned with it unloading and just going leting the rear get light and over it goes, the same thing hapened to a guy I know because of his revolver shackels

Originally posted by elf_cruiser
I don't think it's booty, I just disagree with the whole "uncontrolled droop" thing. He's got some nice coil retainers, the swing arms are stout enough to do their job. The heims in his 3 links are turned the wrong way, and they should be bigger because they are 3 links, but - other than that...

seen many worse setups out there...

my thoughts exactly

is the shock preventing the spring from flexing? Looks Like it is....

Looks like the back end flexes just fine without that crap.

Why mount the shock as to provide no control on the axle?

Looks like the front needs alot of help

Just seems unnecessary.