I have found a couple of diffferent types of hydraulic cylinders for a steering conversion. Cheif and Energy. Bout the same price but the Cheif usually has a 1 1/8" rod vs the energy has a 1 1/16" rod. Energy is made in the USA. Cheif is a "quality import" Anyone know the differences between them? If one is better than the other???

Lakerat?

Not really sure who is actually better, but Chief is a much bigger name. Sometimes it means something somethims it don't mean crap.

I'd be interested in where you are finding the Energy's.

And are these 2'"x 8"? Have you found any 1.5" x 8"?

Thanks

Charly

Ive been digging, and I've found a 1.5" bore, 8" cylinder:
Here (http://www.baileynet.com/baileynet/productBrowse.asp?sku=210108+++++++) I don't really like the ends, but...

Has anyone found a cylinder with Heim ends? I've seen them from a race shop but that's about it.

Paul

Paul,

That 1.5" bore cylinder you linked to would be perfect for me (I'll use clevis ends) , except for the $146 tag on it.

I wish I could find one cheaper, I only seem to be able to find the 2" bore ones for less cash.

Charly

Stay away from that 1 it looks a little scary on the 'attachment" ends.....I use these "Chief" rams from this place here http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/2500001.htm I use the (Part # 34948) and to top it off it's on $50.00 + S&H...:D :beer:

Shaker - I may be blind, but I don't see a 1.5" bore cylinder on that page.....

Paul

Shaker,

What retracted length are those? I'd really prefer an 18.25" one, but I think I may have to settle for the standard 20.25" cylinders.

Also, what ends do these have? If clevis' are they 1" pins?

I'm really looking for a 1.5 x 8 cylinder with a 18.25 retracted length, but they seem to be impossible to find for a reasonable price.

Thanks,

Charly

Originally posted by nasvik
Shaker - I may be blind, but I don't see a 1.5" bore cylinder on that page.....

Paul

If you are looking for a 1.5 bore order Part # 16687 which is a "Energy" brand......I'm looking in my catalog right now.... :D

Originally posted by Charly
Shaker,

What retracted length are those? I'd really prefer an 18.25" one, but I think I may have to settle for the standard 20.25" cylinders.

Also, what ends do these have? If clevis' are they 1" pins?

I'm really looking for a 1.5 x 8 cylinder with a 18.25 retracted length, but they seem to be impossible to find for a reasonable price.

Thanks,

Charly

Yes they are clevis with 1 in. pins.....

dont have an addy here, but northern tool sells both prince and cheif. 2" bore by 8" stroke. both are under $75. i dont see a 1.5" bore though.

Sorry but I've never used an energy ram, Used the hell out of lion and chief and have had no complaints.

Agri supply is the place that I was planning on getting mine from. I figure for $50 the price can't be beat...

Lakerat, On a land Criuser is the 2"x8 or the 2x6 better??? I was thinking probably the 2x8".

If you are useing the stock pump I would suggest useing a 1.5" ram lenght will depend on your steering setup. You'll just have to measure.

Nasvik check out columbus cylinders they do 1-7 inch bore lots of different ends. call surplus center 1-800-488-3407

I would be afraid to rely on a ductile iron end link, I would cut it off and weld on some 4140 ends! Just my $0.02 worth!

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What about using a Hydraulic Ram from one that came as a Hydraulic steering Ram?

I'm wondering if a Ford Power Assist Ram would work? Came in ear,y 70's Fords to help the manual boxes.

Hey that's a neat idea. Even the '82 and earlier Vettes used the power steering ram setup. Anybody got the dimensions for one of those?

I'll throw in my .02 here... I just recently saw a forklift being
hauled on a trailer that had a pretty beefy hydro-cyl on it for
the steering. The cylinder appeared to be at least a 2" bore
unit, with about 8" --estimate length in stroke... But here's
the part that caught my eye... The cylinder end on this unit
had a huge tie rod end on it.. hmmm, beefy! and the rod end
also had a very large tie rod end on it..... The plate that the
rod-end attached to the tie-rod was held in place with 2 ubolts
attaching it. (You could weld it yourself, or do like this was set
up......

The brand of forklift was a "Wiggins".... It looked like an
outdoor-type, pick-up sized rubber-tired forklift in about
the 5-8k rating... I saw no "model" numbers on the lift
itself..

I plan on calling a few lift-places on monday and start looking to get one of these cylinder set-ups...

--Sherpa

Most forklifts run that type of setup and are a good place to get rams if you know of a place that sells new/used parts for them.