As one who puts on competition events, I'm always trying to dream up new ideas and I thought it'd be fun to see what other sorts of ideas everyone else has.

Here's the rules:

(1) It can be an event you simply want to participate in, or (like me) one you want to put on yourself.

(2) Must be something that's not currently done. The activity doesn't have to be brand new (it can be). Could be a completely new idea, or something as simple as a rule change to a current one. Maybe you want to do a rock crawl with a steady stream of water flowing over all the rocks. Maybe you want to do a tough truck race over the monster truck course. Maybe you want a rock crawl with bone-stock rigs. Etc, etc, etc.


Here's mine. As most of you know, I sanction competition mud racing. As most of you probably know, there are two main types of mud racing - bogs & drags (aka "Pit" and "Fast Track"). So, my "dream event" is a 4-day mud race.

Day one consists of "qualifying" for the "Pit" classes.
Day two is qualifying for the "Fast Track" classes.
Day three, the top 20 from each class on day one return for the finals.
Day four, the top 20 from each class on day 2 return for the finals.

Total prize purse $150,000.00

Got the location picked (Midwestern city of ~150,000 residents, 7,000 seat stadium). Just don't have the stones to commit to that kind of prize money w/o securing some backing first LOL.

What makes this event unique is not the events. The mud racing would be standard classes (9 total), using the "normal" track lengths & depths. Nor, would any of the vehicles be unique, they'd be the ones you see at all the events all over. What makes this unique is (1) the purse, and (2) the qualifying/final format. What this ensures is the absolute BEST possible competition on finals nights & the best possible show not only for the on-site spectators, but also for TV coverage. Currently, there is TV coverage for a handful of national events. But, there is no guarantee of the quality of the vehicles shown. Even at Indy, where you might have racers from across the entire nation in the
top class, the quality of the show isn't as great because you could have a slug running side-by-side with a top-10 racer. Under my proposed format, only the best of the best are invited back for the finals (kinda like Sunday at the drag races).


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TEX

Sorry TEX, but I'm already working on my dream event,hope to do it next year or in 05. But I will not discuss it here, to many ears, with big bucks, how would like nothing else but use MY ideas first.

sometimes all this crap is to much :D

but sometimes you just have to laugh:D

Rich


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Originally posted by Big Rich
But I will not discuss it here, to many ears, with big bucks, how would like nothing else but use MY ideas first.



I've thought about the same thing with my "dream event". The wrong "person" gets wind of it & they beat me to the punch, or just lock down all the good venues to make sure I don't have access to a good place :( Trying to be optimistic though :D


TEX

You said "dream event". Here's mine:

Go to Bristol Motorspeedway. Tear up the track and replace it with Boulders - not rocks, BOULDERS. Boulders the size of cars and houses. Pack the place with at least 100,000 people. Start a competitor every 5 minutes. Fastest time around the track wins.

Remember, this is a dream, so nobody breaks down, and there aren't any other problems. And I still need to somehow work some women in bikinis in there somewhere.

Originally posted by TrailKeeper
You said "dream event". Here's mine:

Go to Bristol Motorspeedway. Tear up the track and replace it with Boulders - not rocks, BOULDERS. Boulders the size of cars and houses. Pack the place with at least 100,000 people. Start a competitor every 5 minutes. Fastest time around the track wins.

Remember, this is a dream, so nobody breaks down, and there aren't any other problems. And I still need to somehow work some women in bikinis in there somewhere.

Now this is some dream! :D

Originally posted by TrailKeeper
You said "dream event". Here's mine:

Go to Bristol Motorspeedway. Tear up the track and replace it with Boulders - not rocks, BOULDERS. Boulders the size of cars and houses. Pack the place with at least 100,000 people. Start a competitor every 5 minutes. Fastest time around the track wins.

Remember, this is a dream, so nobody breaks down, and there aren't any other problems. And I still need to somehow work some women in bikinis in there somewhere.

This guy dreams in color :) I think they should have to make several laps so they'd have to deal with "lapped traffic" on the rocks :D Oh, and the bikini girls could be the "flagmen".



TEX

No the bikini girls could be the spotters!!! And they also can deduct points for lesser clothes!!! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Foxfab
No the bikini girls could be the spotters!!! And they also can deduct points for lesser clothes!!! :flipoff2:

Yes! Strip rock crawling!

dammit...female strip rock crawling was MY idea!!!

In my dream event, I'm Elvis!:D

I would like to compete in a "24 hrs. at the Hammers" type event.
Endurance rock crawling type thing. The rules would be that the driver and spotter must recover or work on the vehicle if it needs repair without any outside help, and with the parts and tools they carry or get a large time penalty. Include a loop out to outer limits or another trail not in the main group. Have everyone take off in 10 min. intervals, and have check points along the way. That would be one cool rock crawling comp.

here you go team rock crawling
5-10 teams
2 rigs per team
2 people per rig
straped together with a 20' tow strap
24hours on the hammers style event where each team must complete X number of courses together in the fastes tim without ever removing the strap or repositioning it once started, all without outside help except from the 4 team members,

Oh and yes Girls in Bikini's (I'm sure my spotter would be ok with that):eek:

why not mix desert racing and rockcrawling events? make it a 30 mile track with creek crossings, rockcrawling, sand blasting, mud running, whoop-di's and boulder fields. make it a GPS trackable thing, where everybody's got a system that automatically logs an exact coordinate every 30 seconds or something to make sure they aren't cheating by going around obstacles, not only that, but they have to get flags and bring them in, some will be easy haul-ass by and grab them, some will be at the top of very difficult climbs, but the GPS has to match, proving the vehicle made the climb and not the individual, so, maybe also add onboard cameras. and how about if the whole thing was open to any 4 wheeled vehicle? think ATV's will have the upper hand? not on the straightaways! not in the creek crossings, not in the mud. the finish should be a wide straightaway in case there are racers neck and neck.

purse will be from both desert racing and rock crawling sponsors, meaning, BIG.

sound good? sound expensive, uninsurable and extremely dangerous? yeah, so i wouldn't count on it, but it would be fun.

:smokin:

Hell just hold the next womens comp topless and Ill be happy...oh yea free :beer:

That would involve Beer, Hookers, and alot of rocks! :flipoff2:

As with the mud running thing, we should get some of the track coordinators together to form more than a loose informational section. The mud guys dont have a sanctioning body, not like calrocs. My dream ( after running the races for 7 years with minimal advertising) is to get more spectators involved and see what our collective sports are capable of.

Out here in Oregon an obstacle course would be cool, but the tree huggers would have to be tallied as points.

Originally posted by Grumpy_old_fart
As with the mud running thing, we should get some of the track coordinators together to form more than a loose informational section. The mud guys dont have a sanctioning body, not like calrocs.

Actually, there are numerous mud race sanctioning bodies out there, some going back into the 70's. But, the vast majority of the groups are located East of the Rockies. I've been sanctioning mud racing since '99.


TEX

maybe we should get together to discuss some of the different events. I dont want to mess anyone up, but it seems to me that we could all benefit by using a common rule system. I know that a lot of places out east use USHRA rules. I dont necessarily agree with them, but I guess its a start.

Any way, let me stop interrupting the thread:)

i reckon some freestyle shizza would be sweet, just go here is a rock playground, similar to where the big comps are and a couple of guys just go hard and judges can score them?!?!?!

Originally posted by Grumpy_old_fart
I know that a lot of places out east use USHRA rules.

USHRA doesn't really have "rules" per say, nor do they really sanction "race" events. They put on "shows" ;)


TEX

You may come up with a dream event and you may come up with all that is needed to put it on and be told by everyone that this is going to be killer and "count them in". Now you have setup all that was ideal to the masses and send out the invites and find out that is is all a bunch of talk. Pumping themselves up, "oh yeah I would be up for that", "oh yeah that sound cool" now the time comes to commit and they run for cover with this or that for exceusses.

The Avalanche Rock Race is what alot of drivers have told us they are looking for in an event and now we only see a dozen or so enteries. This event has more potential than imaginable, an event that has no cones, no stop or reverse pionts, no rig or team that is used to the same old format, just wheeling and a good time. There is more chance for a newbie or lower ranking compeditor to beat or at least hold there own with a seasoned compeditior in this format. It may be called Rock Race but that does not mean the rig that wins will be the one that throttles through the trails. It will be a matter of consistancy. 4-5 trails each day, start at bottom of trail and get through it as quickly as possable. It will be statagy, when to stack rocks, when to winch, when to just go for it. The trails are not anymore difficult than what we all wheel on any weekend. More damage will be had at any UROC or RCAA event.

We even have a film crew that will be there with bikini girls. Whats up with you people?

I wish you luck in any event you put on and if you here from us that we like the idea and that we will be there than you can count on us.

Weaver

Originally posted by Avalanche
You may come up with a dream event and you may come up with all that is needed to put it on and be told by everyone that this is going to be killer and "count them in". Now you have setup all that was ideal to the masses and send out the invites and find out that is is all a bunch of talk.

That's a shame. It happens though. I think sometimes people confuse what they want to do with what they just want to see someone else do.


TEX

Originally posted by Avalanche

The Avalanche Rock Race is what alot of drivers ...
Weaver

Details please!
When is it?, etc ...

I haven't heard of this either. Perhaps it's an advertising issue?

-Jack

Well Weaver I hope I'm in the 12 your counting or I'll be your #13. Can't wait to do it........ The camera's better follow Joe and I cause it should be good! There should be yellow and purple all over the rocks!