I just talked with a RE salesman. I was told that the bracket they make for the UCA on the pumpkin is not big enough to go make it over the D60 pumpkin. So i figure i would just fab one up. Would 3" by 1/4" bar stock be strong enough? Got my 60 cut down and ready to go in. Just need to figure out what i am gonna do about the brackets!

my re bracket fits on my d60, i dont know what re is smokin. Just need to open the bracket up a tad and grind a little to fit the diameter of the tube and it works fine.

ill get a pic tonight.

If you need to fab one, just make a tube truss.

Here's an idea, not mine (don't need no stinking 60)

http://www.michiganjeepers.com/photopost/data/500/23PDR_1200.JPG

HEHE. I thaught I smelt some crack smoke also:D Shoot me a pic if ya get one. Thx

Originally posted by 4Bangler
Here's an idea, not mine (don't need no stinking 60)

http://www.michiganjeepers.com/photopost/data/500/23PDR_1200.JPG


I see. I see. Thx for the pic Bangler. got one of the short side?

Nope, but I'd be that DetR6oit does, it's his axle, PM him.

Pretty nice lookin weld on the tube!

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
Pretty nice lookin weld on the tube! Yeah there is a whole thread about that.

Matt's Post questioning the fab guys workmanship (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=144901 )

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ



I see. I see. Thx for the pic Bangler. got one of the short side?

I can probably get some tomorrow. Did you want pics of all the mounts on the short side or just the upper's mount again?

I was just curious as to how crowded it was on the short side. If you got pics.... sure i would really like to see them. Did you use a jig or just a tape and a angle finder?

Are those RE's mounts? $350!!!!!

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
I was just curious as to how crowded it was on the short side. If you got pics.... sure i would really like to see them. Did you use a jig or just a tape and a angle finder?


Yeah they are the RE brackets but I didn't pay quite that much for them. I paid high $200s. I didn't do the welding so I am not sure how he set them up. The springs bow out pretty bad so I will proably move the upper mounts out also. Thats the main problem with the width. Also those swaybar mounts are way to far out to hook my teraflex QDs up to them so I will have to figure out something else for that.

Pay no atention to the crappy stock steering lol
http://www.michiganjeepers.com/photopost/data/500/23PDR_1281.JPG

http://www.michiganjeepers.com/photopost/data/500/23PDR_1282.JPG

http://www.michiganjeepers.com/photopost/data/500/23PDR_1285.JPG

Thx for the pics man. Helpful! What width WMS to WMS are you at? Almost as if the lower coil mount shoulda been on the centersection a little and she woulda lined right up. Also do you forsee any issues with your trackbar? Looks as if it could contact the pumpkin while flexing.

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
Thx for the pics man. Helpful! What width WMS to WMS are you at? Almost as if the lower coil mount shoulda been on the centersection a little and she woulda lined right up. Also do you forsee any issues with your trackbar? Looks as if it could contact the pumpkin while flexing.

Right now I will for sure have problems with the trac bar since I have the wheelbase pushed forward to the max in front. I have been meaning to bring it back in but I have been working on other stuff. Hopefully bringing the wheelbase back in some will be good enough for it to clear. I am relocating the gas tank in the back so I can get all the wheelbase I need back there.

Well if ya want the front forward some you could always move the track bar mount on the frame forward some. Probaly what I am gonna end up doing. How much forward do you reckon you are at the moment? 1" ? What year the axle out of? Looks like a late model?

Once again thx

axle is a 94 or newer dodge ram

Ahhh.. Explains the welded tube. Gettin rid of the disco. DUH

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
Ahhh.. Explains the welded tube. Gettin rid of the disco. DUH yeap, speaking for matt here so i my not be 100% correct, but i beleive that the disco crap was directly in the way for one of the brackets or he MAY have just left it there. He is also mounting the d-70 rear out of the same truck on his jeep.

When i welded on my brackets to my d60, i had to grind a little off the centersection cast in spring plate to mount the coil bucket in the right spot. 'Course my 60 is out of a 79 ford so i didnt have to have it cut and re-tubed. Looks like nice work on yours though.

Originally posted by TheBadXJ
When i welded on my brackets to my d60, i had to grind a little off the centersection cast in spring plate to mount the coil bucket in the right spot. 'Course my 60 is out of a 79 ford so i didnt have to have it cut and re-tubed. Looks like nice work on yours though.

Mine is a 79 also. I definately forsee the driver side coil bucket ending up on the centersection a little.

TheBadXJ,

When you welded to the spring perch, did you have to preheat it at all?

Bushwhacker

I used a stick welder with Certainium rods. You can pretty much weld to any metal with these rods. If you use a mig then it would be wise to preheat the pig with a torch otherwise you're going to end up with underbead cracking (IE the weld will look nice but not have any structural support).

HTH

LuvmyTJ,

The coil bucket will sit on top of the outside 2" of the cast in spring mount on te ford d60. I ground off around an 1/8th inch off the cast mount then cut a square shape out the side of my coil bucket brackets so that it would fit right on. The worst thing is mounting the driver side LCA mount as it wound up sitting completely on the center section, and the driverside of the lca mount almost sits flush with edge of the centersection where the tube enters. As soon as i get some pics Ill post them up so that what im saying makes a little more sense LOL :)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheBadXJ
LuvmyTJ,

The coil bucket will sit on top of the outside 2" of the cast in spring mount on te ford d60. I ground off around an 1/8th inch off the cast mount then cut a square shape out the side of my coil bucket brackets so that it would fit right on. The worst thing is mounting the driver side LCA mount as it wound up sitting completely on the center section, and the driverside of the lca mount almost sits flush with edge of the centersection where the tube enters. As soon as i get some pics Ill post them up so that what im saying makes a little more sense LOL :) [/QUOTE



LCA on the center section huh....Is this pretty much the norm or how your application ended up???? Did you use a jig or just an angle finder and a tape measure??

Thx for your help, get some pics!

I got rid of the drivers UCA, then moved the passenger side a few inches torward the center, works great and flexes alot smoother

Originally posted by briejer
I got rid of the drivers UCA, then moved the passenger side a few inches torward the center, works great and flexes alot smoother

Are you runnin custom arms or just the RE upper ?? Seems if you were just runnin one upper it better be pretty stout.

I was lookin at the Currie built Wrangler Strangler and it is runnin a 3 link in the front. The only upper used is the one on the pumpkin. This was in the latest JP mag. Couldnt see it that well from the pics.

Anyone look at triangulating either the front uppers or lowers to get rid of the tracbar?

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ


Are you runnin custom arms or just the RE upper ?? Seems if you were just runnin one upper it better be pretty stout.

I was lookin at the Currie built Wrangler Strangler and it is runnin a 3 link in the front. The only upper used is the one on the pumpkin. This was in the latest JP mag. Couldnt see it that well from the pics.

I sent you some pics. It is a modified RE arm(quite a bit longer) The only problem has been using the RE bushing & bolt (it broke 3 times),but a 3/4" bolt and a poly bushing and it works great. I'm running 44" tires and 5.38 gears and drive like a punk teenager at times, and it's held up fine.

Originally posted by briejer


I sent you some pics. It is a modified RE arm(quite a bit longer) The only problem has been using the RE bushing & bolt (it broke 3 times),but a 3/4" bolt and a poly bushing and it works great. I'm running 44" tires and 5.38 gears and drive like a punk teenager at times, and it's held up fine.

thx for the pics man.. very helpful.Do they make replacement poly bushings for RE's arms or did you use a bushing that was designed for another application? Also noticed you fabbed the CA mounts. You fab the coil buckets also? Hard to see them in the pics.

Once again thx fot the pics:D

Lee, I believe MRBLAINE, on this board and JU, set up a single arm front, based on Currie components. You may want to shoot him an email.

Thx, Ill huntem up.

Bushwhacker
I tried to design a triangulated UCA to make a 3 link but there was too much interference when trying to build around the oil pan. You can run with one uca that has been moved a little more to the center like another guy said before. Just make sure the bracket is braced well and that the arm is very stout.

LuvMyTJ
Im pretty sure it would be the norm. I did use the angle finder and tape measure, and made sure to triple check everything before welding. In fact guys with the balljoint style d60s will have even less room to mount the driver side LCA to. Ask around for pics of what over people have done to get some ideas. I still have 6 pics left on my camera before i have them developed but should have them done by next week.

Originally posted by TheBadXJ
Bushwhacker
I tried to design a triangulated UCA to make a 3 link but there was too much interference when trying to build around the oil pan. You can run with one uca that has been moved a little more to the center like another guy said before. Just make sure the bracket is braced well and that the arm is very stout.

LuvMyTJ
Im pretty sure it would be the norm. I did use the angle finder and tape measure, and made sure to triple check everything before welding. In fact guys with the balljoint style d60s will have even less room to mount the driver side LCA to. Ask around for pics of what over people have done to get some ideas. I still have 6 pics left on my camera before i have them developed but should have them done by next week.

Ight man thx..

Originally posted by TheBadXJ
Bushwhacker
I tried to design a triangulated UCA to make a 3 link but there was too much interference when trying to build around the oil pan. You can run with one uca that has been moved a little more to the center like another guy said before. Just make sure the bracket is braced well and that the arm is very stout.


Well, Redrum did it on his TJ so I'll have to bug him. I dont think i've seen any other TJs that have triangulated the front.

Originally posted by Bushwhacker



Well, Redrum did it on his TJ so I'll have to bug him. I dont think i've seen any other TJs that have triangulated the front.

Actually I think it is a 4 link front.

Bushwhacker,
Im not saying it cant be done, but that the difficulty of routing the upper A arm around the oil pan deffinently outweighs any minor gain in flex.

TheBadXJ ,

I just noticed you're from St.Louis...Duh.
Are in a MWJT member?
What part of St.louis?

Originally posted by briejer


I sent you some pics. It is a modified RE arm(quite a bit longer) The only problem has been using the RE bushing & bolt (it broke 3 times),but a 3/4" bolt and a poly bushing and it works great. I'm running 44" tires and 5.38 gears and drive like a punk teenager at times, and it's held up fine. \


Briejer,



I sure am eyeballin this set up..(modified RE to 3 link) Interesting........ I guess this application may be stronger than I expected.

Here's briejer's set up.

Hope you dont mind me postin this man....

http://community.webshots.com/sym/image6/1/55/41/75815541tOfYIW_ph.jpg

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=75814868&photoID=75815151&security=VOVJwv

Bushwhacker
Im not in MWJT, but do occasionally post on their site as NachtJager. I run with Twisted Metal Offroad, pretty much 36"+ tire size although a few do run smaller tires, most everyones locked front and rear.

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=75814868&photoID=75815151&security=VOVJwv



:confused:

right click on X, copy the address and post in browser and hit enter. Worked for me.

Originally posted by TheBadXJ
right click on X, copy the address and post in browser and hit enter. Worked for me.

mabe webshots doesnt allow that any more.:rolleyes:http://pics.montypics.com/LUVMYTJ/2003-06-05/1054868019_front_single_upper_rear.jpg

now from the fronthttp://pics.montypics.com/LUVMYTJ/2003-06-05/1054868281_front_single_upper.jpg

Briejer,

I take it you had to redo the UCA mount that is attached to the LCA in order the lay the upper over to the center that far. Correct?

Originally posted by TheBadXJ
Bushwhacker
Im not in MWJT, but do occasionally post on their site as NachtJager. I run with Twisted Metal Offroad, pretty much 36"+ tire size although a few do run smaller tires, most everyones locked front and rear.

Is that a St.Louis based club, where do they meet.
Where do you guys run?

We're a pretty small group, and are trying to organize annual trips to Disney/Poteau/Clayton as one trip, and another to Moab for now. As far as local stuff goes, my family owns around 70 acres of rural property so I've managed to build some pretty interesting stuff. Im hoping to get some boulders loaded on our dumptruck soon and build up my current trails with the Bobcat, but with a fulltime job i havent had much chance to start on this yet.