: toyota rear mini discs
70Cruzer 11-23-2001, 09:41 AM anyone know anything about this set up.
here is an excerpt from the site:
Landcruiser Rear Disc Kit
This kit is designed so that you can run Toyota truck disc brakes on the rear of your Landcruiser. By doing this, you will be running the same brake pads front and rear, nothing like having inter-changability of parts on your own rig! The kit consists of two 3/8" caliper brackets, 12 wheel studs and specialized mounting hardware. You supply the '79-'85 4x4 truck rotors, calipers, caliper bolts and 3/8" wheel spacers. The kit totally bolts on in less than 2 hours.
Price $200.00
here is the site:
http://aolsearch.aol.com/dirsearch.adp?query=rear%20disc%20brake%20landcrui ser
hopefully the link will work, they look like they have something to do with sierra rock crawlers.
morgan 11-23-2001, 11:29 AM This URL (http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/6948/disc_brake_conv.html) will take you right to the conversion page.
I know one of the Olsen twins up in Canada is running rear discs on a Toyota rear full-floater axle, and he made a bracket that works and I think allows the caliper to float.
I think Cruiser_Man@mailcity.com is Mike Robinson, he lives somewhere near Placerville. Not sure about that.
I'm gonna put a rear FF axle under my 55 in the spring, and I want to do RDB on it, preferably with similar calipers as up front.
Morgan
ToyTech 11-23-2001, 11:44 AM I think he was referring to this setup Morgan:
http://business.fortunecity.com/turn/499/rockcrawlerdynamics/products.htm
(Right below the pass. side double arm).
Looks like a nice kit. Assuming the rotors mounted snug against the hub face, there would be no need for the caliper to float, or a residual valve for that matter.
morgan 11-23-2001, 11:50 AM Originally posted by ToyTech
I think he was referring to this setup Morgan:
http://business.fortunecity.com/turn/499/rockcrawlerdynamics/products.htm
Oops.
Morgan
70Cruzer 11-23-2001, 07:15 PM Originally posted by ToyTech
I think he was referring to this setup Morgan:
http://business.fortunecity.com/turn/499/rockcrawlerdynamics/products.htm
(Right below the pass. side double arm).
Looks like a nice kit. Assuming the rotors mounted snug against the hub face, there would be no need for the caliper to float, or a residual valve for that matter.
yep thats the one, thanks for fixing the link :D So what do you guys think? Anyone running this?
ToyTech 11-23-2001, 08:42 PM I sent him an e-mail asking for more information. If he shares I'll be sure to pass it along. I'm running a TSM setup now, but I've got about a ton of stock used solid front rotors and calipers laying around from '85 minis that I'd like to put to use.
DCruiser138 11-24-2001, 11:39 AM i dont see how mini rotors would work. that picture shows its still a semi flat rear end. and the mini rotors have the huge bearing race and retainer part of em. do minis have rear discs that the rotors come from? if so, i never knew mini trucks had rear discs:confused: it is known that im horrible at realising the obvious so its probly a stupid question..but whateva:p
ToyTech 11-24-2001, 01:19 PM Dustin,
Mini's don't have rear discs either. We (we meaning mini owners) are trying to find a solution to this as well. While a few options exist, it would still be nice to use Toy parts and not have to adapt metric to SAE.
In the application shown, just the mini rotors and calipers are used. The mini calipers, like the Cruiser's bolt to the wheel hub with two bolts as well as the pressed-in wheel studs. The rotor and hub are separate.
It looks like the mini rotor fits over the center hub flange, kind of like when Chevy truck rotors are machined. I've never measured a mini rotor to see if it will fit over a mini or Cruiser rear axle, so I don't know if the ones in the pic. are stock or modified.
Hope this clears things up - Not a stupid question at all :D
Since the kit in the pic. uses solid front mini rotors, I don't see why later mini (IFS) or vented FJ40/60/62 rotors and the wider calipers wouldn't work either.
I'm still wating to hear back from the maker of this kit...
:usa:
Mark '73 FJ40 11-24-2001, 01:20 PM I'm interested in more info too.
Please let us know what he says Jim.
RHINO 11-25-2001, 12:55 AM i made my own kit to put mini truck discs on the rear of my pig. i used 79-85 non vent rotors and 2wd calipers. it seems to be working fine, about a year old and no need for a prop valve thus far. they are non-floating and i run the metal lines all the way to the calipers. i've been real happy with it, not putting chevy parts on my all toyota cruiser :D :D
ToyTech 11-25-2001, 09:19 AM Must have been '75-'83 2WD calipers. Starting in '84, they went to the floating type. C'Mon Rhino, aren't you gonna share some pics? :D :usa:
RHINO 11-25-2001, 08:39 PM i dont have pics man , i'm poor. looks like a rear disc with single pot caliper.
BJ On Roids 11-26-2001, 07:02 PM this is what i did to my 84 shorty, the only real problem is who has 8 bolts rear drum backing plate and who has 4, cause they just drill the bracket differently
hmmmmmm, yeah, i have one or 2 pics, the hub supports the rotor, by using the longer (front) wheelstuds, and the caliper blt to the steel brake line on the bracket just by benidng it a little, and its all fairly straigthforward :smokin:
ToyTech 11-26-2001, 08:17 PM Hey bj42, did you make the caliper brackets for your set-up? Seems pretty simple to me, one bracket on the top and one on the bottom to support the caliper. Drill and tap for two holes and you're done. I just wonder what the offset needs to be from the backing plate flange.
Let's see the pics :D
ToyTech 11-28-2001, 06:57 PM I got a return e-mail from Anthony Bachman, the inventor of this kit. His response is below:
The Cruiser kit is nothing more than a calpier
bracket. It re-uses the mounting bolts off the stock
backing plate. It then requires stock mini-truck
calipers, rotors and wheel studs. The axle shaft is
removed, stock studs pressed out, then the mini rotor
is pressed onto the backside of the axle. The axle is
then put back in, and the calipers are mounted. You
are then required to run a 1/4" thick wheel spacer on
the rear to ensure good clearance of the wheel studs
and calipers.
He doesn't have any more photos of the kit, but is very good about answering questions via e-mail.
It's hard to tell from pic. that the rotor is pressed onto the back of the axle flange - It looks to me like the rotor is on the outsideof the axle, but it is probably just the angle from which the shot was taken.
Looks like a cool kit, and I don't think the price is out of line. I wish he made a kit for minis though 'cause I'd be all over it
:(
Anyways, if anyone is interested, give Anthony a shout. His address is anthony_does@yahoo.com
70Cruzer 11-29-2001, 01:10 PM thanks for the info
ToyTech 11-30-2001, 12:07 PM BTT - Still looking for caliper bracket info :D
:usa:
That rear disk kit is Anthony's (aka ANT on this board). Send him a PM or an email to anthony@sierrarockcrawlers.com
ToyTech 11-30-2001, 05:35 PM Originally posted by Eric
That rear disk kit is Anthony's (aka ANT on this board). Send him a PM or an email to anthony@sierrarockcrawlers.com
I know Eric, I posted a reply from him above :p
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