AAhhh CRAP!!

[BnTMike]

got the Rear RC 60 in the TJ and aahh shit....8.5 inch driveline....
jesse can make it happen but ill have a 4 inch slip :eek:
Moved the rear back to the tank already
klunve stuffed in there to cause the prob...

Im out of ideas...cant move the motor forward 6cyl... looked at the strech and thats a whole new project....

I cant move much of anything but mabye the tank back 1 inch and motor forward a .5 inch and then im at 10 inches

I pre measured before I started and thought I had a 11 inch shaft... nope

what am I not thinking of moving....???

YES I want the back seat

MIke-

[Po' riggity]

From what I can tell, you're best bet, although its another project is the stretch job, if you are SET on keeping the klune.
Scott

[PIA]

need the back seat? sounds like a good place to put that gas tank!

[BnTMike]

I havent seen any good pics of the tub gettin glued back together... I have a brake and 3 different slip rolls but man ...to do a nice job it looks painfull.... I looked on the other post but there are no assm pics of the tub... the frames a piece of cake...just worried about the sheet metal work

Mike-

[Po' riggity]

Originally posted by eb88
need the back seat? sounds like a good place to put that gas tank!

Dude, read the last line of his post......


He needs the back seat. The only other option I can think of is a fuel cell small enough to fit behind the rear seat, but then you lose all your tool storage space, and the cell would probably hold 10 gallons, if that... Then you are stopping at every single gas station you pass to refill.
Scott

[BnTMike]

also what the heck are they using for a TOP???

looks like a custom soft top??

Mike-

[BnTMike]

mabye I could sink a fuel cell into the floor and put a seat on top.....

The stock TJ tank is a POS anyway....hhhhmmm...that could work...build a box pan and sink it in ...filler neck issues... then it stinks like fuel to.. shit

MIke-

[LUVMYTJ]

Why are you so dead set on the klunve ?????

[LAME]

You don't need options. Take out the klune and just run a Atlas, but I suppose you already have one in it. Or you shoulda just kept the 35:flipoff2:

[BnTMike]

Snow Junkie... I love the snow... going 20mph in the snow is gay... with a 3.8 atlas top speed is like 25-30 ish.... not good enough.... so I need the 2.72 for snow and the 6.72 for rocks... or the 4.0...thats cool... anyway I have never had a rig that was 223 to 1... so I want the klune....mabye im not gonna get my cake and eat it to....

the strech is the best Idea but this is my fam ride... my wife will leave me if I cut that sucker in half...

Mike-

[Bushwhacker]

How bout a 2" body lift, and removing the rear crossmember where the shocks mount and moving the tank as tight as you can up to the tub? I was going to do that, but now i'm just putting it in the tub or going with a cell. I have a 2" body lift and tons of room to remove the cross member and raise the tank.

[BnTMike]

good call Bushwacker...did that very thing on my EB... I already have a 2 inch Body lift ... but just moving it up will let me go back more with the rear end..?? under heavy compression the cover would still hit the tank no??

mike-

[Bushwhacker]

The axle wont compress in the center unless you are jumping. :)
It should just compress at the wheels. If you lose the crossmember, build a new one to hold the tank and raise the tank up you might get enough room. Another option would be to cut into the tub to gain afew more inches and mount the seat to the box that you build around the tank.

[BnTMike]

key word is Jumping ;) Snow wheelin' for me involves high speed whoops and bumps...get air sometimes and compres on the bump stops alot ......its that ...that I am worried about... 4 inches of slip for articulation is fine but not for haulin ass at JV ..snow ect...

Mike-

[Bushwhacker]

Well I guess its worth a shot. You can always raise it up more to suit your needs, or make longer bump stops. Wish we had land like JV to haul ass in. :(

[FAM]

Check out this link. Maybe a different t-case would get you the length you need.

http://www.high-impact.net/transmission_and_gear/Klune-V_Bronco_D20_combo.htm


Fred

[preach]

Build an XJ up for family fun and start chopping the current one.;)

[MellowYellow]

Could you change the shape of your tank? I want to put a semi-circle dent in my tank to make more room for the diff.

I figure you'd loose less than 2 gallons tops.

[BnTMike]

the bronco 20 would be perfect... but its an inch longer than what I have... I have a short shaft kit... man though..I could get a 32 spline out put and twin stick it and have a 2.46 low range ... If it was shorter it would solve the prob...dang it...

Half moon the gas tank... thanks for the tip... I think thats where ill start tonight....

Mike-

[66CJdean]

Make a new tank.

[Keith Strong]

Originally posted by 66CJdean
Make a new tank.

My rear seat fit perfectly in its srock mounting brackets. :beer:

[apeters89]

Originally posted by BnTMike
the bronco 20 would be perfect... but its an inch longer than what I have... I have a short shaft kit... Mike-

According to their site:

Klune/NP231 with slip yoke eliminator: 23.5
Klune/Bronco Dana 20 Combo: 17.5"

[Flatty]

Mike, you should just do the fuel cell in teh rear. My bro and I are doing that to his rig. Gonna plate the hole in the rear, and run a fuel cell back there. Take the fuel filler tube and run it out the abck.

Dima

[Aggro]

Originally posted by 66CJdean
Make a new tank.

Quit being gay mike. You have a break and I assume a welder. Make a tank to fit, with more capacity AND diff clearance than stock.
Easy as pie.

[TDW]

Originally posted by BnTMike
key word is Jumping ;) Snow wheelin' for me involves high speed whoops and bumps...get air sometimes and compres on the bump stops alot ......its that ...that I am worried about... 4 inches of slip for articulation is fine but not for haulin ass at JV ..snow ect...

Mike-

I think you will be surprised at how little of that slip you will use. Not that it makes a difference in what you are trying to accomplish but 4" slip is more than enough.

[sporttj]

Originally posted by TDW


I think you will be surprised at how little of that slip you will use. Not that it makes a difference in what you are trying to accomplish but 4" slip is more than enough.

Thats true. I got a hp60 in the rear of my TJ and it just barely rubs my Kilby SP. The shaft is real short now with only about 4 inches of compression slip left. Hasn't been a problem yet.

Just run it till the DL gives and carry a cheap spare. Then make serious changes if you need to.

my $.02

[evilpsych]

just a quick question.. you *did* clock the TC a bit to ease the shaft angle right?

[Snow]

This may or may not help. All pro offroad makes this fuel cell.

http://www.allprooffroad.com/p0055.jpg

www.allprooffroad.com

[wrangler4.2]

i dont know if this helps you but my friend had the same problem, with a rc 60. He moved the axle back as far as he could w/o stretching the frame and put a fuel cell in the bed but kept the rear seat. Here is a picture of it

<img src="<img src="http://www.geocities.com/pumpkinace/rearaxle.jpg">">

or if that dosent work http://www.geocities.com/pumpkinace/rearaxle.jpg

[Travis Waldher]

I seriously doubt you'll use 4" of travel in that rear driveline. The rear of my YJ only uses about 3/4" of travel. (granted... thats leafs vs. coils)

How have you measured the driveline?

Jack it up, pull the coils out, run the suspension from max to max measuring for driveline length and find out where exactly your sitting.

Your worst enemy could be driveline angle, but doubt it with the RC 60.

[desertCJ]

My four linked CJ only uses 1/2" of travel in the shaft:D No spendy long slip shafts for me:flipoff2:

[LUVMYTJ]

Originally posted by Snow
This may or may not help. All pro offroad makes this fuel cell.

http://www.allprooffroad.com/p0055.jpg

www.allprooffroad.com


Capacity?? 10 gal.?

[4Bangler]

Cut the rear cross member out of the frame, build a rear bumper that sticks out a little, stick your swing-out on top of it, and build a custom tan that goes all the way to the bumper, to both frame rails, to the bottom of the frame, to the bottom of the body, and as far forward as you can get away with, maybe even angle it or half-moon it around the pig.

Post pics.

[GirlfriendYJ]

move your radiator inside of the grill...then move the engine forward...i changed the brackets on my radiator and i know have about 6-7" of space to move forward if i need it...

plus you can do an electric fan and i think that might give3 you as little more space...

then cut out your entire floor in the back and move it up 3-4" and that will allow you to still mount the seat adn move the tank up higher

[Snow]

http://www.allprooffroad.com/p0055.jpg

16 gal. capacity. It goes down thru the floor.

[CrappyYJ]

Originally posted by LUVMYTJ

Capacity?? 10 gal.?

Just checked the site. It's actually 16gal and costs $399.

[High5]

sunray is lengthening jeeps in the cowl area. stock top fits and you get a nice big engine bay. i know that they have done a tj and tom's new cj is done the same way. i knwo they have pic's of the tj on their site. it is richard strellers "whiskers".

[MossMan]

Originally posted by BnTMike
I havent seen any good pics of the tub gettin glued back together... I have a brake and 3 different slip rolls but man ...to do a nice job it looks painfull.... I looked on the other post but there are no assm pics of the tub... the frames a piece of cake...just worried about the sheet metal work

Mike-

Here's a couple pics of guys in a friend's club (core4x4) did "the stretch." Go here (http://www.core4x4club.com/) and click "projects" for the whole story.

before:

http://www.core4x4club.com/images/projects/wesstretch/wescut21.jpg

http://www.core4x4club.com/images/projects/tomstretch/JEEP02.jpg

[MossMan]

After

http://www.core4x4club.com/images/projects/wesstretch/wes34.jpg

http://www.core4x4club.com/images/projects/tomstretch/JEEP26.jpg

[BnTMike]

killer ideas guys... thanks .... I would love to move the motor forward for more weight transfer... tons of options besides the strech and ditin the back seat...

you guys that are running 4 inch slips are pulling them apart huh??
man I have 11 inches of vertical travel in the back with limit straps and bumps....I can just imagine the shaft pulling apart then binding up trying to go back in and breaking my tcase or mounts ect...

I need that much vert travel though... so mabye Ill slap it together and try it on the lift ...

MIke-

[sporttj]

I don't have a 4 inch slip DL. I have RE HD DL that I used when I put the SYE CV driveshaft in back when I had my d44 in the rear. I put the 60 in and slapped my existing DL in for temp but it seems to be okay. The DL just stays compressed with more droop travel than up travel. It seems to be working, however, I have not pulled it apart.
HTH

[BlueJeep]

Summit sells an RCI 15 gallon fuel cell that is tall and skinny. It fits perfectly behind the back seat of a Wrangler and lets you move the rear axle back as far as you want to go with it. It's about $200. I used one in my YJ, because I wanted to keep the back seat and it works great. Only problem is finding a filler neck that's 1.75 OD to hook to it. This can be sunk into the floor and the filler can be routed out the back, if so desired.

[tulsa_jeeper]

stretch it...

the only way to go...

http://personal.vigoris.net/bbrown/jeep/P6190033.JPG

[BnTMike]

This would be a piece of pie if it was a 2 seater and was not in California.... gotta be legal..(thats why I narrowed the axles)
and I need a back seat with room for tools and spares ect...

Im looking at moving the motor forward...could be some stupid probs though but it sovles everything... just worried about the TJ Frame where is shoe horns in for the coils.....

Mike-

[tulsa_jeeper]

Mine used to be legal. Axles are narrowed, v8, altasII and RC 60's front and rear. I cleared the gas tank by about 1/2 inch. It's a tight fit.

Moving the motor forward seems like a lot more work than moving the gas tank to behind the rear seat and moving the rear out some. The longer wheel base is going to help you a lot more than moving the motor forward.

[BnTMike]

I know this is gay sounding but if I cut up the fender wells im building flares.. have seen anyone come out with bigger opening flares yet....

Mike-

[Travis Waldher]

Originally posted by BnTMike
I know this is gay sounding but if I cut up the fender wells im building flares.. have seen anyone come out with bigger opening flares yet....

Mike-

Two words:

Conveyor Belt

;)

[WytNkls]

Sup mike, if stretch the rear, maybe your local blank, blank, custom rides could hook up some body work for ya? haha:flipoff2:
matt-

[FULLSIZE]

i think the custom cell under the floor pan that ran as far forward as possible would work. if the tank was shaped like and L that ran from where the T-case is and dropped down after the rearend, you could get the amount of gallons you need and clear the diff. just use the stock filler neck tube and position on the tub so it wouldnt even raise an eyebrow. just an idea........ :beer:

[WytNkls]

I wouldn't listen to FULLSIZE, all his ideas come after alot of:beer:s....lol
matt-

[Hickeyjones]

I made my tank to fit behind the seat in a CJ5, which has a much smaller area behind the seat than a TJ. Mine does not protrude thru the floor, it fills the whole area behind the seat from top to bottom. It is 12 gallons. In a TJ I could prolly get 25 or 30 gallons.