howdy fellas...
i have a ford f350 hp 60 housing (no knuckles) im about to start building up for my xj.
im going to have the bracketry welded on, and the housing shortened to 65in. a friend of mine that can set gears will be doing the 4.88 and detroit.
aside from that, im planning on putting the rest of it together myself. i am going to retain the stock eight lug pattern.

here are my questions...
1)does anyone have a parts list for all the little odds and ends ill need to make the axle complete? any part numbers would also be much appreciated.

2)also, whats the cheapest way to go about accumulating the parts...shoudl i try to get junkyard cores and then buy stuff like rotors and calipers from pep boys or equivalent?

3)are there any aftermarket parts worth picking up instead of the stock replacements? calipers, rotors, kunckles, hubs ( i was going to run 1 ton warns anyhow)

4)i know this is a kingpin style knuckle...however, im not entirely familiar with it, as opposed to a balljointed knuckle. i have a ball joint press, will i be able to use that to install the kingpins?

5)steering...im sure this has been asked thousands of times....but im looking to run 16x8in rims, with about 4.75-5in backspacing, will i still be able to fit hysteer arms with that much BS? also, would i be able to put the tie rod behind the axle instead of in front? if i can, would it be worth the trouble/expense?

thanks guys, much appreciated.
~John (who has read all the search results on the topic! hehe)

if it were me i'd make a rear hp d60 out of it and just buy a complete front. i imagine you'll spend some $$$ and have a hard time finding knuckles, etc. just my op.

high5....
already got a rear hp60 mate...
i bought the bare housing cause i wanted to build this axle myself...aside from the stuff over my head, like bracketry.

im sure i can find any crap i need from boneyard or ebay or whatever....im not too worried about finding parts...
thanks man
~John

Well speeking as someone who has built some 60's you should be worried about finding the parts. I totaly agree with the other post and say build it as a rear sell it and use the $$$ to buy a complete one. Now on some of the other questions with a king pin knuckle running the tyrod behind the axle is very simple becaus the arm just bolts on top of the knuckle so if it in front or back that is up to you. I would just run a standard offset of 3.5/3.75 of back spacing and then there won't be a problem but 5" I would expect a problem. Parts are easyest to get from the dealer. Go to Ford, Chevy, or Dodge whomever is the easyest to work with and get the parts there. Chevy used kingping 60's up to 88 and dodge used them up to 94

aside from knuckles, which i saw like 3 pairs of on ebay last time i looked over there, what should i be worried about finding? ive got time now, so if i need to get hard to find parts, i should start now, so i wont have to wrry about it when crunch time comes.
~John

if you can get the knuckles, spindals, king pin caps, caliper brackets, and wheel hubs the rest should be cake. for brake parts call sunray eng. when they build the hybrid 9'''s they do away with the 1ton brakes. he has a pile of it. he probably has some good rotors, caliper brackets and a set of calipers that could be used for turn-ins. do a search. thier # has been posted before. :D

fellas....anyone know who makes steering arms that will mount the tie rod behind the axle?
also, anyone have a blow up of this axle?
thanks
John

Originally posted by JohnBuuu
fellas....anyone know who makes steering arms that will mount the tie rod behind the axle?
also, anyone have a blow up of this axle?
thanks
John

when you call sunray for the d60 brake parts have them make you a set of steering arms too. they do the tie rod behind the axle stuff.

IMHO, if you can't make brackets, you will probably have trouble making an axle. fwiw:eek:

Check out the tech on www.bc4x4.com som eof the articles should answer many of your questions.

Originally posted by Aggro
IMHO, if you can't make brackets, you will probably have trouble making an axle. fwiw:eek:
no offense, but what does the fact that i cant weld yet, and that ill have a drive train shop do the brackets have to do with assembling the rest of the axle? i dont see why i would have trouble.
maybe im missing something.

You bought a completely gutted Ford HP axle housing?

Well, there is a LOT that you will need and the parts are getting scarce. You may need to buy another axle just to scavenge.

Parts:
Knuckles, spindles, spindle bearings, king pin caps, king pin bearings/bushings/seals/gaskets, caliper brackets, calipers, wheel hubs, lug studs, wheel bearings, wheel bearing seals, wheel bearing locknuts, locking hubs, inner and outer axles, inner axle seals, axle u-joints, brake pads.

I hope you got that housing for next to nothing. I've been selling front HP 60's for $1k COMPLETE end to end!

You can go to the dealer and get a nice exploded view. Better be sitting down for prices. I think spindles list for ~$400 each and stuff like knuckles may not even be available new.

Rick
77 CJ7 HP 60 rear, 609 front
rboiros@yahoo.com

yeah...i realize i may have picked an uphill battle for parts...but i never expected this project to be easy...
thanks for the help so far. im ok with the fact this may be a bit more expensive than buying a complete axle. but im into the projext, and id really like to build it myself, aside from the brackets.
thanks so far, looks like ive got my work cut out.
~John

I forgot Rotors. :D

Also, the Ford shafts (later maybe not) neck down and can't be resplined.

Also, Ford vs GM spindles, hubs and outer ends are different and must be matched accordingly.

I have a complete axle for $1k if you get stuck.

Rick

rick....
i may take you up on the offer...not sure yet, but that may prove the smarter thing to do.
also, im going to shorten the axle a few inches anyhow, so ill probably just go with some aftermarket shafts. i know the inner axles are 35spline (i think), what are my outers? if they are 30, can i slam some 35spliners in there?
thanks fellas
~John

You don't have any outers! :D

Yeah, 35 spline inside and stock was 30 spline outside. You can go to 35 with different shafts (though it may be harder to find them for a Ford length) and new 35 spline hubs.

You could get used GM shafts and have them resplined. That is what I did. I have seen them on the For Sale board here. Good place to hunt for parts.

Rick

couple neew questions for yall....
since im piecing this together from scratch, it seems to me it would make sense to go ahead and buy chevy knuckles, spindles, and stubbies and get the 35 spline. i searched and everything ive read says that i can bolt the GM parts up to the ford housing, but i need to use either all GM parts (spindle, stub, hub, rotor, calipers) since they wont interchange with the ford stuff without modification.

so the plan is to use chevy 1 ton knuckles, spindles, 35spline stubbies,hubs, rotors, calipers, and bolt em up to the ford housing with custom inners.
anyone see any problem with this?
~John

anyone?
bueller?