I've looked through previous posts on this but they didn't really answer my question.

I was thinking of installing a spool in my 8.8 instead of a locker, but my Jeep does spend a majority of the time on road with some good wheeling 2-3 times a month. How bad does a spool behave on the road?? For example taking turns driving down the road in town, or driving down the highway??? I'm not worried about chirping tires, but seems like in a turn with both tires spinning at the same speeds, you'd be pushed into the other lane

If your gonna spool an 8.8 you'll also need some c-clip eliminators. As far as street handling goes. It probably wouldnt be to bad, you'll chew through tires a little faster than a locker. I run a Detroit in my 8.8 and a full spool in my front D44 :D I like the Detroit but If I were to do it again I probably would have spooled it. :skull:

Are you considering a mini or full spool anyways?

I'm planning on a full spool. You know how much those C-clip eliminators are?

There $179.00 at Summit racing Part# FMS-M-4220A (C-Lip Eliminators). Full spools are usually $150-$200.

ok thats sounds about what I've seen. I'll probably go that route, I just wanna be sure I don't have hell driving it on the streets

I have heard that the C clip eliminator kits werent very strong for off road applications. Something about them not being designed to handle heavy sideloads. I dont know for sure, and its all been hearsay. I dont know anyone running that set up, to get any real world feedback on the reliability of the C clip eliminators. Maybe someone on the board is beating the piss out of one, so we can hear how it holds up.

Ya H8, I've heard that before too but they were talking about a c-clip elim locker, if that makes any differance. But a c-clip elim must be used with a spool?

you dont have to run a full spool. you could always go mini spool style and not have to do the c-clip eliminators. There not as strong but there super cheap and easy to install..
Besides the calipers on a disc braked 8.8 will hold the axle shaft in there atleast enough to get the Jeep moved to flat ground if you broke a shaft.

Originally posted by Rockbuggy
you dont have to run a full spool. you could always go mini spool style and not have to do the c-clip eliminators. There not as strong but there super cheap and easy to install..
Besides the calipers on a disc braked 8.8 will hold the axle shaft in there atleast enough to get the Jeep moved to flat ground if you broke a shaft.

you would still need a C-clip eliminator with mini spool, unless the C-clip design of a 8.8 is different from all the other C-clip axles?

Originally posted by NE-RokToy


you would still need a C-clip eliminator with mini spool, unless the C-clip design of a 8.8 is different from all the other C-clip axles?

I've seen 8.8 mini spools that were designed to still take the c-clips. i forget who makes them but it shouldnt be to hard to find again...

I would not recommend a mini spool for the 8.8 for the simple fact that it would retain the stock carrier. Almost every break I have seen on an 8.8, has been the carrier breaking, it occures fairly often when the 1/2 ton trucks are used way beyond their pulling design. That has caused me to be at least a little suspect of the stock carrier, to handle extreme offroad abuse.

As far as the disc calipers having the ability to retain the axle shaft and hub in the event of an axle failure, I can tell you for a fact that I was able to drive out of Fordyce, from winch hill 3, with both sides snapped. Made it no problem all the way to Cisco Grove, didnt even do any damage to the rotors or bearrings, it ruined the seals though.

Here is one of the company's. Richmond makes this mini spool that says you dont need c-clip eliminators. cost is $89.99 for a 31 spline 8.8

http://www.jegs.com/photos/8367809311.jpg

Here is another mini spool that doest require c-clip eliminators. Its made by auburn gear and runs: $106.99 for a 31 spline 8.8

http://www.jegs.com/images/products/109544801_large.jpg

Originally posted by H8monday
I would not recommend a mini spool for the 8.8 for the simple fact that it would retain the stock carrier. Almost every break I have seen on an 8.8, has been the carrier breaking, it occures fairly often when the 1/2 ton trucks are used way beyond their pulling design. That has caused me to be at least a little suspect of the stock carrier, to handle extreme offroad abuse.

As far as the disc calipers having the ability to retain the axle shaft and hub in the event of an axle failure, I can tell you for a fact that I was able to drive out of Fordyce, from winch hill 3, with both sides snapped. Made it no problem all the way to Cisco Grove, didnt even do any damage to the rotors or bearrings, it ruined the seals though.

I totally agree with you H8, im just tossing out another option. especially because of the simplicity of a mini spool.

As far as driving out of fordyce on a broken shaft. Thats pretty impressive. I was under the impression that the disc calipers were strong enough to hold the axle in but damn. Guess you wont have to worry about breaking shafts anymore with that big ass 14 bolt. I've got one just sitting at my friends house. Im still debating on putting it in.

Rockbuggy: all the axles I've seen the C-clip is right near the end of the shaft, I'm guessing its not so on an 8.8? Maybe I'm just not remember C-clip axles correctly..

No NE your right.. the 8.8 have the c-clip right on the end like other axles...

if your thinking about mini spool why not just lincoln lock it? your still using the OE carrier either way.

not thinking of a mini-spool...either full-spool, or a locker. Guess I might be looking into a detroit if c-clip elims aren't supposed to be that great

If someone can explain the design of the C clip eliminator kit. Im sure we could assume whether or not it should work, and probably even figure a way to beef up the design. I would like to see a diagrahm of how they retain the outer bearings and axle shaft.

For installing c-clip elim kits, I don't know for sure about the ford kit, but on an old Chevy 12 bolt I had, I installed Moser kits on, and it required cutting the end of the axle snout off, and some lathe work on the axle. Then an assembly with a press ring was pressed onto the axle, and there was a retainer that went on the backing plate to hold the whole thing in place. However, when I installed them, I was told that they would only hold up for 5k to 10k miles. The car was a 10 second car, and only driven on Sundays a 1/4 mile at a time, so that wasn't a concern for me. If there's a mileage recommendation, it may be a factor for you guys.

wow, what a pain in the ass if you have to do that every 5k miles.