so did they send those unbreakable birfs down for you to test?? if so how did it go??

Yes, and no comment so far.......:flipoff2:
Testing still underway:D

So no breakage yet after a weekend of the Hammers? Hmmmm....

Originally posted by Tin Bender
Yes, and no comment so far.......:flipoff2:
Testing still underway:D


Any comments on the STEERING characteristics???? PUUURRRTY PLEEEEEAZE????:D

report is being written today.

sneek preview....2 rigs,38" tires, 4+ rated trails, ran 4 trails.
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no breakage :)

both rigs were testing the new birfs or just Desertoy?

Wait... Hand... reaching for checkbook.......

Are they really that good? I assume that they tried to break them a bit...
And did you pull them to see if the inner races held up???

Let me guess you are going to tell me to wait for the dam report huh

:rolleyes: :flipoff2: :D

This has gotta be to good to be true. If it ain't this guy is gonna get swamped.

Well, I agreed that I would test them for a weekend and give my opinion so here it is.
I ran Sledge Hammer, Jack Hammer and Wrecking Ball with no problems at all. I got it hopping a couple of times, bound it up a couple of times, I didn't intensionally try to break one this trip but I plan on leaving them in until I do break one.
I am not going to draw any conclusions right now. I will write a product review this week with pictures and get Lance to post it on the front page. Should be up by Friday or Monday.

i don't want to jump the gun but can i buy some stock in your company:emb:

Originally posted by desertoy
Well, I agreed that I would test them for a weekend and give my opinion so here it is.
I ran Sledge Hammer, Jack Hammer and Wrecking Ball with no problems at all. I got it hopping a couple of times, bound it up a couple of times, I didn't intensionally try to break one this trip but I plan on leaving them in until I do break one.
I am not going to draw any conclusions right now. I will write a product review this week with pictures and get Lance to post it on the front page. Should be up by Friday or Monday.

To cool. I might be sending a set of spares to get this done before I reassemble my axle. Thanks

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Any comments on the STEERING characteristics???? PUUURRRTY PLEEEEEAZE????:D

Your avoidance of the topic speaks volumes:rolleyes:

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER


Your avoidance of the topic speaks volumes:rolleyes:

ya like i have a job and actually have to work sometimes. :flipoff2:

anyhow now that ya rolled your eyes at me you can wait for the review. :flipoff2:

Man,

I would be very careful with any "clinical study" with one participant.

We all know of those people that wheel the hell out of their sheet and NEVER break Birfields.

I just have such a hard time believing that these things can be "unbreakable".

Of course, I went through 5 Newfields...:eek:

PS, Deserttoy, thanks for the no-birfield picture...it speaks volumes.

Originally posted by DRM
both rigs were testing the new birfs or just Desertoy?

both rigs ran them

Originally posted by camo
anyhow now that ya rolled your eyes at me you can wait for the review. :flipoff2:

Awwww...... and I even said "please" Real Nice too:crybaby2: :D

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER


Awwww...... and I even said "please" Real Nice too:crybaby2: :D

Oh man!! Way to go!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Do you REALIZE how far away Friday is??!! :D :D
I guess that means :beer: :beer: :smokin: 'til then....

They looked like they work, we will see...

UNBREAKABLE!!!! bla bla bla, pull my finger, ops, i made a mess!!!
I know somebody who broke one, and it was not the shell that went, just the inner cage(kinda like my marfield did) that popped..
All i can say is that toy stuff is junk, needless to say my toy junk is gone this week for something MUCH better!!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

If even the Birfield King :D - who never broke a single one - has ditched the Toy axles, that should make you think ;)

Originally posted by DRM
If even the Birfield King :D - who never broke a single one - has ditched the Toy axles, that should make you think ;)
?? Make me think what???
It makes me think you replaced someting that has never broken and has worked fine, because you MIGHT someday brake a $50.00 part??
To use your own qoute "SHEEPLE"......:rolleyes:

That's kinda like..... I never had a problem with the D35c and 33" tires, but want to go to 35" tires. does it make sense to keep that axle and risk blowing shafts or bending the housing? I think not!

Get real, there's weak parts in any rig, just cause it aint broke yet doesn't mean it shouldn't get replaced.

Originally posted by Tin Bender

?? Make me think what???
It makes me think you replaced someting that has never broken and has worked fine, because you MIGHT someday brake a $50.00 part??
To use your own qoute "SHEEPLE"......:rolleyes:

Well, there is a lot more to it, but I was pretty sure since I was swapping to a 4.3L V6 and wanting to move up to 39" tires, as well as a wider stance, the Toyota axle would no longer be my little love slave and obey my every command like it used to :p


My decision to upgrade to 60's was based on the fact that I got a good deal on one, I wanted WIDER axles, and I wanted a bigger motor and bigger tires... The Toyota axles were just not up to it - super birfield or my smoothe charm not-withstanding :p

(in my best Paul Harvey voice)
And now I know....................................The rest of the story....:D

Are these things entirely new (different alloy?) Or a reworked stock birfield?
Any preliminary cost figures?
:D

Originally posted by twaldher
That's kinda like..... I never had a problem with the D35c and 33" tires, but want to go to 35" tires. does it make sense to keep that axle and risk blowing shafts or bending the housing? I think not!

Get real, there's weak parts in any rig, just cause it aint broke yet doesn't mean it shouldn't get replaced.


If you NEVER had a problem with a D35 and 33"'s, then it's pretty safe to say that you MUST be real easy on stuff, so YES run the 35's UNTIL it breaks.... carry a spare axle shaft until you prove the upgrade is needed......

And as far as the "Get real"????? I'm about as "real" as they come :skull:

Originally posted by Tin Bender



If you NEVER had a problem with a D35 and 33"'s, then it's pretty safe to say that you MUST be real easy on stuff, so YES run the 35's UNTIL it breaks.... carry a spare axle shaft until you prove the upgrade is needed......

And as far as the "Get real"????? I'm about as "real" as they come :skull:
to late hahahahahahaahaha, i am almost done molestering his jeep
http://www.snort4x4.com/~crash/rigs/travis/
hahahahaha, DOH!!!!

Damn CRunchy that looks fawk'n good......

Now I know that the 35 would have held up to THORNBIRDS!!!!
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHH:D

Well "MR EXO CLOWN", when ya getting your set of thorn -turds??? hahaahahahaah!!
Damn, i ned to get my junk back together and head south!!!!

Originally posted by DRM
If even the Birfield King :D - who never broke a single one - has ditched the Toy axles, that should make you think ;)



Does that mean your looking for something that will break???

Originally posted by 40_Bones
Are these things entirely new (different alloy?) Or a reworked stock birfield?
Any preliminary cost figures?
:D

they look like stock ones that have been welded, you can even see where they did some grinding and some wire wheel'n. I think they go for around $119.00

Originally posted by Tin Bender
Damn CRunchy that looks fawk'n good......

Now I know that the 35 would have held up to THORNBIRDS!!!!
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHH:D

he he, yeah, the perfect compliment to a D35, the thornbird. LOL

Thornbirds get it.

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Okay it's Friday:)

Can we get an update on the Long-Birfield torture test write-up?

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Okay it's Friday:)

Can we get an update on the Long-Birfield torture test write-up?

Let's here it. I want to know if I should order these before I put my axle back together?

I e-mailed the article to Lance last night :flipoff2: Be patient!

Originally posted by desertoy
I e-mailed the article to Lance last night

Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time, D.T.:usa:

:D I don't like to tell anybody I told you so, but, I TOLD YOU SO!!!! :rolleyes:

Hate to say it, but driving on 'em and suffering no breakage is NOT what I'd call a full test. Now if all the 'Benders romped 'em and ALL broke axleshafts without breaking any birfs, I'd be impressed. Until a super-birf comes out that meets that standard, well...it's only going to further the hatred of birfields.

My $.02

well what the verdict on thoes birfields i want to buy some for my sammi the only bad thing i dont like is that sometimes you cant get off the inner axel :confused: does any one know how to get them off thanks :massey: