IH newbie and have searched.
Getting a stock '63 80 soon.
When the 4 cylinder goes, I would like to go with a Chevy Vortec, which I have already. I would also like some power options.
What are the benefits and drawbacks of a Scout 800 and Scout II frame swaps. I have cheap access to both, so the cost of aquiring them is not a concern.
Well now, rip me a new one. :flipoff2:

You speak as if you have the fabrication skills. Assuming that, swapping in a Vortec is possible. Anything is possible :D Just requires fab skills. If there isn't anything wrong with the 80 frame then why swap to a SII frame? But if want the chevy engine in there, then I suggest going with the whole chevy powertrain.

Eventually I want more power, and since I have a 350, plus the tuned port (minus the new intake) a 4X4 700R4 and a 205, I might as well use them. I have a 80 ton hydroboost, and thought about that too, as I have seen a few posts where guys used them.
I want to build a driver for the crappy months when my 64 Impala is in the garage or on days I need to take of the top. (just bought a half cab) I would like discs and power brakes and steering.
Is there any advantage to using the Scout II frame, or just rob the 44's on it?

With as much fabrication as you are going to do anyway, just stick with the 80 frame. No advantage to the Scout II or 800 frame.

I think the 80 frame may be a little wider than the SII frame, if I remember correctly. Which may actually make it easier to fit some of your drivetrain mods.

The frame itself is super stout, no reason to replace it with anything else, and it should be identical to the 800 frame, maybe a few mounts in different locations, that's it.

i put a 1969 800 frame under a 1961 body it was a pain all of the mounts lined up except for the core support (you will need to move the core support forward) the mounts under/between the gas tanks will need to be shimmed

Screw it, guess I will leave that frame alone until the engine gives up. New to international junk, but would a 345 line right up to the existing tranny setup? What would a decent motor set a guy back? Ran into a dude with a few needing to sell.
I got a picture of the scout I wil probably have in a week or so, but don't know how and the hell to post it, other than email.
The dude flipped it already, and put some bigger rims and tires on it, so I guess it will look okay topless, won't break it cruising this summer anyway. Plan on rounding up the SII stuff as soon as I can though.

Ok before you go any farther you need to do some searching.

Go here first
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Then go to the link at the top of this message (and all the PBB message boards) and get your red star. Then you can post pictures directly from your hard drive.

Other than that, they will need to be on a web page and then linked to.


As for the V-8, and IH V-8 will not "bolt in" in place of an IH 4-cylinder in and 80/800. The motor position is different, the Bell housing is different (and as a "tilt" into it for the 80/800 4-cylinder).

Can be done, has been done, just not a bolt in. Search for the specifics.

Well, I searched it out this morning and found what a pain it was, so I will leave this sucker alone until it breaks.

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
Then go to the link at the top of this message (and all the PBB message boards) and get your red star. Then you can post pictures directly from your hard drive.

Other than that, they will need to be on a web page and then linked to.


As for the V-8, and IH V-8 will not "bolt in" in place of an IH 4-cylinder in and 80/800. The motor position is different, the Bell housing is different (and as a "tilt" into it for the 80/800 4-cylinder).

Can be done, has been done, just not a bolt in. Search for the specifics.

Not to mention that with the early 80's, the firewall configuration is different than from the V8 equipped 800's, and it's tough to make it fit. If I were going to go to all that trouble and fab work, I'd be dropping in a FI Vortec and chebby drivetrain.

The 4 Banger is a stout little engine though. Not exactly a race car, but plenty of torque.

Originally posted by ih4x4
i put a 1969 800 frame under a 1961 body it was a pain all of the mounts lined up except for the core support (you will need to move the core support forward) the mounts under/between the gas tanks will need to be shimmed

All of the mounts lined up but one and you call that a pain? Holy sheeot I call that an easy day. One piece of sq tube and a drill bit and you have a new support.

Originally posted by jdjanda


All of the mounts lined up but one and you call that a pain? Holy sheeot I call that an easy day. One piece of sq tube and a drill bit and you have a new support.

there is alot more to the swap
the core support needs to be moved forward
drivers side inner fender needs to be modified
stearing colum needs to be motified
hood latch needs to be motified
battrery box needs to be moved

it took me 3 months of weekends to do the swap by myself

would i do it again

no way

Well, you guys sold me. If I break the axles with the flip and big tires, I'll dig some up of a Scout II.
I'll save the Cheby stuff for a first generation blazer that I am trying to track down.
Any suggestions for the 4 cylinder?
I was thinking of a Petronix ignition?