deerdogs

[mossy oak zuk]

i thought any of yall that deer hunt with dogs might enjoythis

[FourBanger]

Sucks to be that deer.

[TTURokToy]

WTF..I've heard of people using dogs to track deer after they shoot it, but not use dogs to attack the deer..that's fucked up..and even I bowhunt..

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by FourBanger
Sucks to be that deer.

no fucking shit.

why did i click on this shit?! :mad:

call me a pussy, call me a bitch, call me a fucking PETA lover, i dont give two shits. :flipoff:

[ChiefSlapaHo]

I don't think that's what it's about.....



Loser.:shaking:

[Schly]

I have to agree that I was thinking the same thing...WTF would someone do that?

Maybe their dogs just ran it down and instead of doing something about it, they grabbed the camera.

Are these your dogs? If so, did you do this intentionally? Is this common? :confused:

[rkcrawl]

That isn't sporting what so ever. There is no need to use dogs to hunt deer.

Dogs chasing deer get put down...

[usmcdoc14]

i hunt
i kill animals with pointy stick that fly threw the air
i kill animals with hunks of lead

i have trapped,clubbed and strangled animals in survival training






THAT is not fawking hunting :flipoff:

[SanDiegoCJ]

Where I come from we shoot dogs that do that on site. :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ
Where I come from we shoot dogs that do that on site. :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

most people that know me on this board, know i like animals more than i like people, but in the case above. i wouldnt hesitate to fire a couple rounds in each one of those dogs, as well as their owner/s.

oops, i was aiming for your dog :mad3:

[84xcabyoda]

mossy oak zuk, i hunt, and have to defend it to just about everyone, they ever get ahold of this pic and all the morals of hunters if tried to show them go out the door......not cool

[maxotude]

FAWKER!!!!

mudmaid--I would gladly help ya "aim" !!!!;)

[DRM]

So someone explain just what is the problem if he was using dogs to hunt deer?

Many terriers were bred specifically to go into holes after live game...
Hounds are used to tree raccoons...
Cats are used to kill mice in houses, barns, and shops...
Dogs are used to chase bear...
Dogs are used to hunt and chase boar...
Falcons are used to hunt rabbits, and other small game...
Dogs are used to chase rabbits...
Dogs are used to retrieve still-living ducks, quail, geese, etc.

Packs of various wild animals track and take down wild game across the world.



And how is this LESS sporting than hiding in a tree or behind something and SHOOTING an animal in surprise? :confused:

I challenge ANYONE to explain how a pack of dogs chasing and bringing down a deer is LESS natural than shooting it with a gun or bow...



Some of you have a rather twisted view of things IMHO :shaking:

[ForestCam]

Where's the sport in that? The dogs track the deer, run it down, corner it then you walk up and shoot it? I know a lot of the southern states allow you to deer hunt with dogs but I could never see it.:rolleyes:


Although from the looks of that deer it ain't much bigger then the dogs (swamp deer, small and grey), lets see 'em try that with one of our northern white tail bucks!:D

[DRM]

BTW - the movie "Bambi" sure did make you people a bunch of pansies :p

[Radbassist]

Classy....Real classy....

You must have a small penis to be posting that shit.

People that thik they're tough by the size or ferocity of their dogs.....:rolleyes: Those are chickenshit dogs.

Here................. You are JEALOUS of my size aren't you?

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by Radbassist
Classy....Real classy....

You must have a small penis to be posting that shit.


Here................. Are you JEALOUS?


Oh I see you finally washed your finger.:flipoff2: :laughing:

[Radbassist]

Originally posted by ForestCam



Oh I see you finally washed your finger.:flipoff2: :laughing:


:laughing: shaddup! I trying to be serious! :D

[TexasBlake]

Who gives a shit.

How is it any different then this:

http://www.kevinschafer.com/wl/images/wllgh1.jpg

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam
Where's the sport in that? The dogs track the deer, run it down, corner it then you walk up and shoot it?

How is it LESS sporting than hiding behind a tree and shooting the same deer? :confused:

Seems lions & tigers in Africa stalk and bring down game... you gonna tell them "there is no sport in it?" :p



Yep... definately some sandy vaginas in here :laughing:

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by TexasBlakeWFO
Who gives a shit.

How is it any different then this:



It's different from that because the dogs aren't going after the deer for food. They're owner's trained them to chase down and attack the deer instead of learning to track, stalk and generally hunt a deer himself.

Maybe you'll understand it this way, about as different as you actually cooking your own BBQ and your roommate hiring someone else to do it.:rolleyes:

[mike]

Ever seen what dogs do to a deer? It's totally different than what wolves do to a deer and mauling an animal and leaving it certainley aint natural. Growin' up feral dogs chasin deer or cattle were indeed shot on sight.

[Toyota_Jim]

Ive dogs that was runnin my deer on my property. I would have shot yours an at you if i seen ya doin that shit. Local law around here, old but still in the books, is that any dog that runs deer, horses and somethin else on someones property the dog owner pays $500 per animal, its $2 for chickens.

I aint against usin dogs, but i use them for coon huntin about everyweekend, a coon has a fightin chance against a dog, deer aint got shit.

[TN TJ]

yes i hunt the fawkers with everything i can (from bow to shotgun) but that pic reminds me of hunting bear over a trash pile i just don't see the sport. i hope they were your dogs. i would have shot them in a heart beat if i saw them from my stand.

BTW those shit eating beagles wouldn't stand a chance against a mature Tennessee white tail buck. they would have been gouged and broken :D

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam
It's different from that because the dogs aren't going after the deer for food. They're owner's trained them to chase down and attack the deer instead of learning to track, stalk and generally hunt a deer himself.

Natural?

Like how it is "natural" for a dog to stand stock-still pointing at a bird and waiting for you to shoot it?
Like how it is "natural" for a dog to retrieve a duck without chomping down on it?
Like how it is "natural" for a dog to tree a coon and call out until you get there?

:p

[mike]

David, you havent really spent much time in the woods have ya? :flipoff2:

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by DRM

Yep... definately some sandy vaginas in here :laughing:

oh no... you said i had a "sandy vagina" :( now i'm going to lose 1 nanosecond of sleep tonight :crybaby2:

i will not debate the "what makes this so right/wrong compared to this/that" with you or anyone that thinks that is cool. is it because i'm scared i might get my wittle feelers hurt? :shaking: :laughing: um...no. you have your convictions, i have mine.

on second thought, maybe i should since your cunning literary ability might actually make me see the error in my thinking... NOT!

[DRM]

Originally posted by mike
David, you havent really spent much time in the woods have ya? :flipoff2:

What makes you say that? :confused:

[mike]

Originally posted by DRM


What makes you say that? :confused:

Simply the fact that you've obviously never seen dogs rip into and maim a deer and leave it.

[DRM]

Originally posted by mudmaid


oh no... you said i had a "sandy vagina" :( now i'm going to lose 1 nanosecond of sleep tonight :crybaby2:

i will not debate the "what makes this so right/wrong compared to this/that" with you or anyone that thinks that is cool. is it because i'm scared i might get my wittle feelers hurt? :shaking: :laughing: um...no. you have your convictions, i have mine.

on second thought, maybe i should since your cunning literary ability might actually make me see the error in my thinking... NOT!

If you don't like it - don't look at the thread again :p

It is a legal form of hunting in some places. Pack of animals tracking and bringing down game is a perfectly natural event. If you can't handle that - sorry.

[TN TJ]

come to think of it I wish they would make spot lighting and shooting from the car legal. seems as fair as using dogs:)

[DRM]

Originally posted by mike


Simply the fact that you've obviously never seen dogs rip into and maim a deer and leave it.

Nope - never seen it.

I have seen my own dogs presumably take down and then bring back deer parts and eat every last edible piece.

I have dealt with packs of wild dogs on our farm that took out half of our goat herds (we kept 30-50 goats at a time)... That is the only time I have seem them just kill to kill.. the coyotes on the other hand killed to EAT.

But what does that have to do with TRAINED dogs tracking and bringing down a deer? Are you telling me those trained dogs just tore the deer up and the dog owners left the deer laying there?

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by TN TJ
come to think of it I wish they would make spot lighting and shooting from the car legal. seems as fair as using dogs:)

Don't forget duck hunting with a shotgun that holds more then four shells, fishing with TNT and fishing on a fish ladder!:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam


Don't forget duck hunting with a shotgun that holds more then four shells, fishing with TNT and fishing on a fish ladder!:D

ooh-ooh... don't forget field baiting! :D

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by DRM


If you don't like it - don't look at the thread again :p

It is a legal form of hunting in some places. Pack of animals tracking and bringing down game is a perfectly natural event. If you can't handle that - sorry.

nope, this is one thread i'm staying in. i stay out of plenty of shit around here because i dont want to stir the pot but that pic is seriously disturbing.

and as for the hunting with animals in the *bloodhound aspect* i vote YES (not allowing it) every time that proposal comes on the ballet. if you want to hunt be a man/woman and do it in an ethical manner.

yes, i have a hunting dog. yes, i trained him with dead birds, and to have a "soft jaw". yes, i like to shoot trap. and as much as i dont like hunting, i understand that it has to be done...in one form or another... but again, it should be done in an ethical manner.

[84xcabyoda]

i hunt for the kill and the bbq afterwards......ive only hunted for birds so far, pheasent and duck. in cali if you dont have private property its not worth trying to deer hunt. it would be a complete waist of time number one to train a dog to do your killing for you, it wouldnt be fun to me and thats why i wouldnt do it. i understand it is legal, and as long as the use the meat their dogs kill i really cant say its that wrong. when you shoot a deer and you have to track it cause its wounded, not a fatal shot, or you hit a duck and have to ring its neck because it didnt die. it is all the same, so after thinking about it i do agree its just as humane as shooting something, i just wouldnt partake in it. wouldnt be a sport i would ever choose to be apart of

[TN TJ]

:nuke: = cleaned fish :D

[TN TJ]

a deer might fall several times while dogs maul it to death. that = stress to an animal that deserves some respect. i pass up shots if i know i can't make a clean shot it's the least you can do to a animal that you hunt. just my .02

BTW deer season starts in less then 3 months:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by mudmaid
nope, this is one thread i'm staying in. i stay out of plenty of shit around here because i dont want to stir the pot but that pic is seriously disturbing.

and as for the hunting with animals in the *bloodhound aspect* i vote YES (not allowing it) every time that proposal comes on the ballet. if you want to hunt be a man/woman and do it in an ethical manner.

yes, i have a hunting dog. yes, i trained him with dead birds, and to have a "soft jaw". yes, i like to shoot trap. and as much as i dont like hunting, i understand that it has to be done...in one form or another... but again, it should be done in an ethical manner.

What a strange, strange contradictory view you hold :confused:

It is a deer. Any way it is hunted - it is gonna end up DEAD. Acting like you care out it's "feelings" is a farce.

"Ethical manner" - what a crock :shaking:

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ
a deer might fall several times while dogs maul it to death. that = stress to an animal that deserves some respect. i pass up shots if i know i can't make a clean shot it's the least you can do to a animal that you hunt. just my .02

BTW deer season starts in less then 3 months:D


So the deer deserves "respect", but the dogs who used their skills and teamwork to bring the deer down don't deserve any? :confused:


Man oh man... the contradictions in this thread :confused:

[84xcabyoda]

Originally posted by TN TJ
a deer might fall several times while dogs maul it to death. that = stress to an animal that deserves some respect. i pass up shots if i know i can't make a clean shot it's the least you can do to a animal that you hunt. just my .02

BTW deer season starts in less then 3 months:D


i agree, but even the best hunter misses the kill shot.....or the animal has a strong will to live, either way an animal will suffer none the less...........dont get me wrong i love to hunt, but i can see how its the same as shooting......id just rather kill it myself

[DRM]

Originally posted by 84xcabyoda
i hunt for the kill and the bbq afterwards......ive only hunted for birds so far, pheasent and duck. in cali if you dont have private property its not worth trying to deer hunt. it would be a complete waist of time number one to train a dog to do your killing for you, it wouldnt be fun to me and thats why i wouldnt do it. i understand it is legal, and as long as the use the meat their dogs kill i really cant say its that wrong. when you shoot a deer and you have to track it cause its wounded, not a fatal shot, or you hit a duck and have to ring its neck because it didnt die. it is all the same, so after thinking about it i do agree its just as humane as shooting something, i just wouldnt partake in it. wouldnt be a sport i would ever choose to be apart of


Can't say I disagree with a single part of this...

I don't see any kind of "ethical" problem with using dogs to hunt deer.
Would *I* ever participate? Nope...

[DRM]

BTW for you bleeding hearts (pun intended) :p


Do you think the deer cares if you shoot it through the lungs with an arrow or bullet, or if it is chased by dogs then taken down by the throat, or maybe hit by your family mini-van while it tries to cross the interstate? Doe you think it REALLY matters?



Or do you thintk it is saying - while being chased by the dogs - "DAMN! I wish I had gotten one of those clean lung shots like Fred got last rut!" :rolleyes: :p

[BayAreaWheeler]

pics dont bother me a bit...never used a dog to hunt. But i grew up hunting anything and everything in Utah...either way i figure it will end up in my freezer.

MMMMMmmmmMM deer jerky :D

[Sully]

Originally posted by DRM
So someone explain just what is the problem if he was using dogs to hunt deer?

Many terriers were bred specifically to go into holes after live game...
Hounds are used to tree raccoons...
Cats are used to kill mice in houses, barns, and shops...
Dogs are used to chase bear...
Dogs are used to hunt and chase boar...
Falcons are used to hunt rabbits, and other small game...
Dogs are used to chase rabbits...
Dogs are used to retrieve still-living ducks, quail, geese, etc.

Packs of various wild animals track and take down wild game across the world.



And how is this LESS sporting than hiding in a tree or behind something and SHOOTING an animal in surprise? :confused:

I challenge ANYONE to explain how a pack of dogs chasing and bringing down a deer is LESS natural than shooting it with a gun or bow...



Some of you have a rather twisted view of things IMHO :shaking:

Because it is illegal. You of all people ought to understand that viewpoint.

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by DRM

"Ethical manner" - what a crock :shaking: :confused: look you can't help but feel for an animal you have just killed. too me and many others it's the thrill of the hunt (+ BBQ afterward) you just don't walk into the woods and start blasting. I see the idiots that hunt with semi auto's and see a deer 150 - 200 yds and start blasting.:mad: they are not what you would call ethical hunters.

One entry found for ethical.


Main Entry: eth·i·cal
Pronunciation: 'e-thi-k&l
Variant(s): also eth·ic /-thik/
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English etik, from Latin ethicus, from Greek Ethikos, from Ethos character -- more at SIB
Date: 1607
1 : of or relating to ethics
2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval
3 : conforming to accepted professional standards of conduct
4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
synonym see MORAL
- eth·i·cal·i·ty /"e-th&-'ka-l&-tE/ noun
- eth·i·cal·ly /'e-thi-k(&-)lE/ adverb
- eth·i·cal·ness /-k&l-n&s/ noun

[Sully]

Besides, most animal control officers will shoot any dog that is found running deer.

Morally and ethically, I think there is something wrong with training your dogs to do this.

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by DRM


What a strange, strange contradictory view you hold :confused:



i've been accused of worse.

as much fun as this has been, i gotta go...i found something better to do. :p :flipoff2:

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by DRM


Or do you thintk it is saying - while being chased by the dogs - "DAMN! I wish I had gotten one of those clean lung shots like Fred got last rut!" :rolleyes: :p

LMAO :laughing:

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ
One entry found for ethical.

3 : conforming to accepted professional standards of conduct


So if it is LEGAL and ACCEPTED in that state (and those STANDARDS are obviously set by PROFESSIONALS in the area of game management)... what is the problem? ;)


Come on guys - you are making this one too easy :p

[DRM]

Originally posted by Sully
Because it is illegal. You of all people ought to understand that viewpoint.

It is? Are you SURE about that? ;)

[84xcabyoda]

Originally posted by TN TJ
you just don't walk into the woods and start blasting. I see the idiots that hunt with semi auto's and see a deer 150 - 200 yds and start blasting.:mad: they are not what you would call ethical hunters.



i understand the ethics of it. why im not affraid to admit i hunt and kill animals, i have heard and seen on fishing trips this kind of stuff, it is unfortunate it doesnt take much to get a hunting license, but at the same time, every law they make brings us one step closer to loosing the privalege.....even if its population control, helps to keep other species alive and prevents horrible disease from over population, some people will never get it.....and its a shame some day i might not be able to show one of my grandkids the joys of hunting

[Haole]

Originally posted by DRM
Do you think the deer cares if you shoot it through the lungs with an arrow or bullet, or if it is chased by dogs then taken down by the throat, or maybe hit by your family mini-van while it tries to cross the interstate? Doe you think it REALLY matters?


I certainly care. I don't want another deers stuff all over my Jeep the next time I hit one doing 65. The drivers side front wheel was covered in shit and my swaybar disconnect was covered in fur. Not to mention, I bent my lower control arm bracket. Went back and the damn thing was gone too.

[TN TJ]

if the 4x4 community never received any grief for trash or fluids by all the tree huggers would you have an opinion on those that didn't pick-up after themselves? it's the same way for me and using dogs for taking down deer. just because you can doesn't mean I would. or that I agree with it 100% I see nothing wrong in tracking a deer if you make a bad shot so that it doesn't go to waste. but I would never use dogs for taking the deer down. again just my .02:)

[ForestCam]

Ok David since you seem to like tossing the word "natural" how about this one, HUMANE?

Just about everything related to hunting is designed to try and give a quick, clean and painless kill, in other words, HUMANE.

I've read about people who've been accidently shot with a broadhead and they said they didn't even feel the hit because it was so quick and clean.

Remember the DC sniper? They say that a few of the victims would have lived if they'd been using steel NATO rounds instead of copper jacketed lead hunting rounds since NATO rounds don't mushroom and they'll go right through you because for people that's more HUMANE but for an animal it's more HUMANE to try to kill with the first shot.

I've also seen what a dog mauling can do to a kid and the fact that these dogs are trained to do that scares the living crap out of me.

[DRM]

Seems permits have been granted in the UK:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/footandmouth/rural/hunting/deerei.pdf

Louisiana allows it:
http://www.wlf.state.la.us/apps/netgear/index.asp?cn=lawlf&pid=447

Seems to be legal in Georgia - but the major complaint is trespassing:
http://www.augustachronicle.com/stories/040603/pav_143-5166.000.shtml

Again, legal in Florida - tresspassing the major complaint:
http://www.newsherald.com/archive/local/re012398.htm


Seems from my reading, most of the complaints about it are due to hunters who generally lack and regard for safety or respect for others or their property... The only complaints on the "ethical" front came - strangely enough - from total anti-huting sources...

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam
Ok David since you seem to like tossing the word "natural" how about this one, HUMANE?

Just about everything related to hunting is designed to try and give a quick, clean and painless kill, in other words, HUMANE.


Wow... and here I thought hunting was about killing an animal and (maybe) putting some meat on the table :p

[TN TJ]

i know prob. a repost but so what

i have been doing it the hard way deer vs suv (http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/hacsuv.htm)

[ForestCam]

Not here:

Taken from the Michigan DNR Web Site (http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363_10919_11747-31427--,00.html)

It is illegal to:

Make use of a dog in hunting deer except that a dog may be used to located a down or mortally wounded deer if the dog is kept on a leash and none of the persons in attendance possess a firearm or bow and arrow. If the tracking is done at night, artificial lights ordinarily carried in the hand may be used. A dog that barks while tracking the deer shall not be used on public lands.

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam
Not here:

Taken from the Michigan DNR Web Site (http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363_10919_11747-31427--,00.html)



Uhh... are you blind? Sure reads to me like it IS legal to use dogs (to some extent) in hunting deer :shaking:

[TN TJ]

It is illegal to:
Use a crossbow to take game except under disabled permit

same way here:confused: i dont know or understand why. oh well:)

[TN TJ]

It is illegal to:
Hunt while under the influence of intoxicating alcohol, exhilarating or stupefying drugs
they take all the fun out of hunting:flipoff2:

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by DRM


Uhh... are you blind? Sure reads to me like it IS legal to use dogs (to some extent) in hunting deer :shaking:


except that a dog may be used to located a down or mortally wounded deer if the dog is kept on a leash and none of the persons in attendance possess a firearm or bow and arrow.

Ummmm...that's not "hunting" that's retrieving your kill and I've never heard of anyone doing it. What are you gonna do leave your dog locked in the car all day just in case you may need it? And notice that the dog must be on a leash and no one may carry a firearm or bow and arrow so no, by then the "hunting" is over with.:p

[TN TJ]

one question
can you use dogs for snipe hunting?:confused: :flipoff2:

[Priest]

Originally posted by DRM
BTW for you bleeding hearts (pun intended) :p


Do you think the deer cares if you shoot it through the lungs with an arrow or bullet, or if it is chased by dogs then taken down by the throat, or maybe hit by your family mini-van while it tries to cross the interstate? Doe you think it REALLY matters?



Or do you thintk it is saying - while being chased by the dogs - "DAMN! I wish I had gotten one of those clean lung shots like Fred got last rut!" :rolleyes: :p


That's pretty funny :D


So, you pretty much took this same stance on a post I put up awhile back about veal.

Can is summarize your point of view by stating that you believe there is no such word as humane when it relates to the killing of an animal? In my veal post you pretty much said that it didn't matter how you treated the animal because in the end it is still dead.

Not trying to put words in your mouth just trying to shorten the thread... :D

[DRM]

So maybe the topic started needs to chime back in and detail exactly what was going on?


So far: it seems to me that it IS legal to use dogs in the process of deer huting in more than a few states, and other countries too - albeit within limits... that should take care of the "it is illegal" blanket statement, as well as the "it goes against standards" comments...

Then we are left with the "ethical" arguement... Which is pretty silly - since any way you cut it the deer ends up dead, and I am quite confident the deer is not sighing from relief by getting wacked on way instead of another.

There is also objections to that "style" of hunting - just like I know people who will not gun hunt - they think it is not "sporting" and will only use a bow... and some will only use a long bow, and say compound bows are "not sporting". Can't fault someone for this view - but it is a purely subjective and personal objection and not something you can expect to be a widespread viewpoint...

So what is left? :confused:

[Dustin Smith]

I have seen deer taken down by dogs....if you, for one minute, try to convince me that this type of hunting is for the "BBQ afterwords", you have lost your fucking mind. In Oklahoma, it is illegal as hell, thank God, but it happens everyday, any time of year, especially in Eastern Oklahoma, where I deer hunt every year. This is not a humane way to hunt, it is simply the most efficient way to kill as many animals as you can in the least amount of time.

I would have killed every one of those dogs the first chance I got.

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by TN TJ
It is illegal to:
Use a crossbow to take game except under disabled permit

same way here:confused: i dont know or understand why. oh well:)

The way it was explained to me was using a crossbow is about equal to using a silencer on a rifle, super accurate and silent so basically you could just keep shooting untill you hit something.

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ
It is illegal to:
Use a crossbow to take game except under disabled permit

same way here:confused: i dont know or understand why. oh well:)


My wife's grandfather actually pushed through (newspaper articles, meetings with politicians, the works) legislation making crossbows legal for disabled persons in AL :)

[synds9]

Originally posted by DRM


It is? Are you SURE about that? ;)

yeah, it's not a three point

[DRM]

Originally posted by Priest



That's pretty funny :D


So, you pretty much took this same stance on a post I put up awhile back about veal.

Can is summarize your point of view by stating that you believe there is no such word as humane when it relates to the killing of an animal? In my veal post you pretty much said that it didn't matter how you treated the animal because in the end it is still dead.

Not trying to put words in your mouth just trying to shorten the thread... :D

For the most part - yep :p

Is my consistancy now a problem? :confused: ;)

[Schly]

Originally posted by TN TJ
one question
can you use dogs for snipe hunting?:confused: :flipoff2:

That all depends on just how high you can throw him....;)

[synds9]

am i missing somethign here.. cause from what i understand killing anything less than a three horn is illegal :confused:

[DRM]

Originally posted by liliysdad
I have seen deer taken down by dogs....if you, for one minute, try to convince me that this type of hunting is for the "BBQ afterwords", you have lost your fucking mind. In Oklahoma, it is illegal as hell, thank God, but it happens everyday, any time of year, especially in Eastern Oklahoma, where I deer hunt every year. This is not a humane way to hunt, it is simply the most efficient way to kill as many animals as you can in the least amount of time.

I would have killed every one of those dogs the first chance I got.

So it is illegal there - what if it is legal where he is?

So you don't "like" it, what bearing does that have on his legal right to hunt deer that way?

You open by stating you will not be convinced it is anything other than what you already think it is about.. guess you might as well move along then, a discussion on the subject will not benefit you any :p

[DRM]

Originally posted by Schly


That all depends on just how high you can throw him....;)

The dog, or the snipe?


Either way - I have found it is the catching/landing part that is tricky :D

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by DRM



My wife's grandfather actually pushed through (newspaper articles, meeting sith politicians, the works) legislation making crossbows legal for disabled persons in AL :)

cool
:)
I wonder if you can use a crossbow for snipe:confused:

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ


cool
:)
I wonder if you can use a crossbow for snipe:confused:


I am pretty sure you can use a crossbow, lamp shades, butternut squash, or just about anything else.... except for peanuts - the fawkin' Game Wardens will shoot you on sight for that :eek:

[DRM]

Originally posted by synds9
am i missing somethign here.. cause from what i understand killing anything less than a three horn is illegal :confused:

Depends...

Special permits, pest situations, hunting on your own private land...

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by DRM

Again, legal in Florida - tresspassing the major complaint:
http://www.newsherald.com/archive/local/re012398.htm


Seems from my reading, most of the complaints about it are due to hunters who generally lack and regard for safety or respect for others or their property... The only complaints on the "ethical" front came - strangely enough - from total anti-huting sources...

Having lived in North Florida I knew plenty of people who deer hunted using dogs. They did NOT use their dogs to bring down the deer, the dogs are used to flush and drive the deer towards the hunters, much like pheasant or dove hunts. I've known owners who've shot dogs who actually attacked the deer.

Amazingly this is pretty much what the link describes, not having dogs bring down deer which it seems is what you are defending and offering up the link as evidence

[Priest]

Originally posted by DRM


For the most part - yep :p

Is my consistancy now a problem? :confused: ;)


Just figured I'd try to 'cut and dry' it a little more for the rest of the folks.

Although I don't always agree with your opinions I have always found you to be very consistent in your arguments and I respect that.





Hunting quadrapeds in CA with dogs is a big no,no. I have an Akita and I have read about a lot of guys raising groups of them to take out pig hunting around here (they have been bread in Japan for centuries for hunting boar and bear). The main problems they have is that the dogs become very agressive and they have problems with the dogs attacking other animals and people.

[DRM]

Originally posted by Joe_W
Amazingly this is pretty much what the link describes, not having dogs bring down deer which it seems is what you are defending and offering up the link as evidence

Actually Joe - everyone in this thread is assuming about a MILLION things based on one line of text and one picture...

I know quite well what I was referencing... thanks :)

But Joe - since you seem to think you have a case, just what do you think *I am defending* here? I am anxious to hear what you are reading into my stand on this :p

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by DRM



I am pretty sure you can use a crossbow, lamp shades, butternut squash, or just about anything else.... except for peanuts - the fawkin' Game Wardens will shoot you on sight for that :eek:

Butternut squash are only leagal to hunt snipe with during the months of April & May.:p

[DRM]

Originally posted by Priest
Hunting quadrapeds in CA with dogs is a big no,no. I have an Akita and I have read about a lot of guys raising groups of them to take out pig hunting around here (they have been bread in Japan for centuries for hunting boar and bear). The main problems they have is that the dogs become very agressive and they have problems with the dogs attacking other animals and people.

Ahhh.. but the thread starter is not from CA, is he? ;) So referencing CA law is quite irrelevant )

So do you have a problem with boar and near hunting by dogs? I don't... as long as it is legal to do so...

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by Priest



I have an Akita and I have read about a lot of guys raising groups of them to take out pig hunting around here (they have been bread in Japan for centuries for hunting boar and bear). The main problems they have is that the dogs become very agressive and they have problems with the dogs attacking other animals and people.

awesome dogs I have a female pinto colored with the raccoon face. nice as can be(except to small animals) my g/f has a brindle male that hates everyone and every thing.

[Priest]

Originally posted by DRM


Ahhh.. but the thread starter is not from CA, is he? ;) So referencing CA law is quite irrelevant )

So do you have a problem with boar and near hunting by dogs? I don't... as long as it is legal to do so...

If it's legal to do so... rock on!... is it something that "I" would do.... nope. Just like eating veal is legal to do and I choose not to.. ;)

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam


Butternut squash are only leagal to hunt snipe with during the months of April & May.:p

I guess I was still referencing my 1999 Snipe Hunting Regulations Manual, which was before HR5661 was passed in 2001 to regulate the season down from year-round to just those 2 months... Thanks for the update!

[v-twintech]

Originally posted by liliysdad

I would have killed every one of those dogs the first chance I got.

Nevermind the dog, BEWARE of the owner. How can you bitch at the dogs? The dummy with the camera took the photo.

[84xcabyoda]

one thing i would like to know if the thread owner ever chimes back in is, how much good meat is left after the dogs tear into it?
im still thinking about the bbq afterwards idea:flipoff2:

[DRM]

Originally posted by Priest


If it's legal to do so... rock on!... is it something that "I" would do.... nope. Just like eating veal is legal to do and I choose not to.. ;)

Fair enough :)

[DRM]

Originally posted by 84xcabyoda
one thing i would like to know if the thread owner ever chimes back in is, how much good meat is left after the dogs tear into it?
im still thinking about the bbq afterwards idea:flipoff2:

I too would be interested in the situation surrounding the photo...


Did the hunter happen to capture normally well-trained (just for tracking/locating) dogs jump the deer before they could be called off?

Had the deer already been shot, and the dogs were just being used to track a wounded animal and they got a little excited?

Were the dogs trained to track, find, take down, then DESTROY the animal?


Fact is - at this point - nobody here knows :p

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by v-twintech


Nevermind the dog, BEWARE of the owner. How can you bitch at the dogs? The dummy with the camera took the photo.


Well see shooting the owner of the dogs would be illegal and even though several people would probably love to, being that it's illegal DRM would have a problem with that.
If they changed the law to make it legal to kill 'em then David would be ok with it since the guy's gonna die eventually anyway.:p

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by DRM


I guess I was still referencing my 1999 Snipe Hunting Regulations Manual, which was before HR5661 was passed in 2001 to regulate the season down from year-round to just those 2 months... Thanks for the update!

this whole year I've been hunting out of season. everyone is invited for southern fried snipe this weekend.:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam



Well see shooting the owner of the dogs would be illegal and even though several people would probably love to, being that it's illegal DRM would have a problem with that.
If they changed the law to make it legal to kill 'em then David would be ok with it since the guy's gonna die eventually anyway.:p


I gotta give you credit for a nice twist on my words there ;)


Still wrong - but a big "E" for effort :D

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by DRM


Fact is - at this point - nobody here knows :p


But it's a lot more fun to speculate!:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ


this whole year I've been hunting out of season. everyone is invited for southern fried snipe this weekend.:D

Sorry man - I only grill or bake :(

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam



But it's a lot more fun to speculate!:D


Pages and pages of it so it seems :D:D:D

[v-twintech]

Originally posted by DRM


I too would be interested in the situation surrounding the photo...



Fact is - at this point - nobody here knows :p




Hate to agree, but, Well no shit. :flipoff2:

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by DRM


Actually Joe - everyone in this thread is assuming about a MILLION things based on one line of text and one picture...

I know quite well what I was referencing... thanks :)

But Joe - since you seem to think you have a case, just what do you think *I am defending* here? I am anxious to hear what you are reading into my stand on this :p

:rolleyes:

let me type it slow for you..

a picture is posted of a number of dogs all over a deer. Personally I couldn't tell if the deer was alive or dead, apparently a majority of people in the thread have a large problem with dogs being used to actually tackle and bring down a deer. You, surprise, surprise, jump in with counterpoint and state that you dont see what the difference is between having dogs bring down a deer vs a bullet or arrow (ie..defending the pic). You then offer up links that, again apparently, further defend your defense of the objectionable picture.

I stated from actual experience that the hunters I knew in Florida (and when you live next to Wakulla Cty Florida you know a LOT) that no one I know would allow their dogs to be on the deer as pictured.

Now quite possibly you are in fact defending using dogs to flush but not bring down the deer in which case maybe the person who was misunderstood is the one who needs to be clearer as opposed to the many people who were doing the misunderstanding

Then again after growing up in the north where deer hunters actually tracked deer I was amazed to see feeders, salt licks and deer stands in the south

[DRM]

Hey Smartass Joe - maybe you missed the memo, but everyone else here is having a good time... Think about that before you make another post, ok?:p


BTW - you better watch out - you come off as a I-think-I-know-it-all in that post, which puts you deep in evil "that is how DRM acts" territory... just telling you cause I care :D

[84xcabyoda]

anyone for a snipe hunt in cali, july 12th is only day you can....they get real big afterwards....bbq at my place afterwards:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[Drunk tank]

damn! That would of definatly been interesting to see! Thats almost as fun as roundin up bucks, lassoing them and then castrating them! (friends in SW CO do that every now and then, guess the fuckers have crazy huge whacked out rack in the following season or somethin)

[84xcabyoda]

Originally posted by DRM

BTW - you better watch out - you come off as a I-think-I-know-it-all in that post, which puts you deep in evil "that is how DRM acts" territory...


sounds like drm's on the hunt :flipoff2:

[v-twintech]

Originally posted by 84xcabyoda



sounds like drm's on the hunt :flipoff2:

Screw him, watch out for his dogs! :flipoff2:

[ForestCam]

I'll tell you what my oldest brother told me, he grw up here in Michigan and was an avid hunter. When he turned 18 he joined the Air Force. He eventually settled in Little Rock AK in the early 70's and a group of his friends took him deer hunting. They used dogs and the first trip out was the last time he ever went. He said that hunting deer with dogs was about the most unsportsmenlike thing he'd ever seen. You pretty much have a pack of dogs track down and surround the deer then you walk up and shoot the thing. That and he said the deer they took were only about as big as great danes.

Arround here you have to put a little more effort into hunting then letting a pack of dogs loose and pulling a trigger.

[84xcabyoda]

Originally posted by v-twintech


Screw him, watch out for his dogs! :flipoff2: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[DRM]

Originally posted by 84xcabyoda
sounds like drm's on the hunt :flipoff2:


Dem der' dawgs 'er chompin' ((spitttt)) at tha neck! Git'em Red! Git'em Cleetus! Tear 'is throte out Jebediah! ((guffaw)) :D:D:D

[DRM]

Originally posted by ForestCam
I'll tell you what my oldest brother told me, he grw up here in Michigan and was an avid hunter. When he turned 18 he joined the Air Force. He eventually settled in Little Rock AK in the early 70's and a group of his friends took him deer hunting. They used dogs and the first trip out was the last time he ever went. He said that hunting deer with dogs was about the most unsportsmenlike thing he'd ever seen. You pretty much have a pack of dogs track down and surround the deer then you walk up and shoot the thing. That and he said the deer they took were only about as big as great danes.

Arround here you have to put a little more effort into hunting then letting a pack of dogs loose and pulling a trigger.

Unsportsmanlike in regards to WHO?

Maybe the humans had it easy...
Seems like the dogs are working pretty hard :p

I guess it is similarly unsportsmanlike for me to go to a catfish farm (small pond, LOTS of hungry fish) and catch some fish for a fish fry we have coming up? ;)

[84xcabyoda]

Originally posted by DRM



Dem der' dawgs 'er chompin' ((spitttt)) at tha neck! Git'em Red! Git'em Cleetus! Tear 'is throte out Jebediah! ((guffaw)) :D:D:D

now that there is quality tennessee talk :flipoff2: :beer:

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by DRM
Hey Smartass Joe - maybe you missed the memo, but everyone else here is having a good time... Think about that before you make another post, ok?:p


Yep..pages 1, 2, and 3 were a laugh riot. Oh and thanks for telling me what I need to do before I post again dad.

[ForestCam]

Originally posted by DRM


I guess it is similarly unsportsmanlike for me to go to a catfish farm (small pond, LOTS of hungry fish) and catch some fish for a fish fry we have coming up? ;)

If you call that fishing, I call that catching.:laughing:

Lots of deer hunters around here can go all season and not get anything but I'll bet you could kill several deer a day with dogs, just like you could get several deer a night with a spotlight.
I guess I look at it this way, if you make hunting easy then it changes from "the thrill of the hunt" to "the thrill of the kill" and where's the "sport" in just killing something?
Kind of like the buffalo hunts they have where you pay big $$$ to shoot a buffalo. They walk you out to within 20' of the thing, hand you a gun and tell you to shoot. Oh yea that's hunting alright.:rolleyes:

[AthlonAJ]

PETA just feeds off pictures like this and then make ignorant blanket statements about using dogs for hunting deer. Even IF the dogs were taking down a live deer in the pic (which no one knows for fact) it's not representing how the majority of people hunt with dogs.

The one thing I don't like about hunting with dogs or people who hunt in large groups and drive deer is the fact that most shots are taken while the deer are on the run. The shots are hurried and a lot of people basically just shoot and hope they hit it without knowing their backdrop. I've seen this firsthand many times over the years and that's the reason I only hunt blackpowder season.

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by 84xcabyoda
anyone for a snipe hunt in cali, july 12th is only day you can....they get real big afterwards....bbq at my place afterwards:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

My cousin has a Snipe Mill. I bet I could get you some cheap and you could have one of them "canned hunts". Gives you more time for Q'in after you spend less time huntin'. :D :p

[Priest]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC


My cousin has a Snipe Mill. I bet I could get you some cheap and you could have one of them "canned hunts". Gives you more time for Q'in after you spend less time huntin'. :D :p


fawking yuppies and their "canned snipe hunts"......

[GRIDWNC]

Nah, he don't fawk the yuppies ( a young snipe that hasn't got all it's part showin yet) anymore. He had one use it's teeth on him once and he's only got one nutter left. :D :p

[Entropy]

I don't care whether it is morally, ethically, or legally right or wrong.

If'n I was a dat der deer - I would rather take a bullet and a quick death (even on the off chance that it wasn't clean) then be mauled by dogs. Even as a person I would rather (given no other option what-so-ever) take the bullet - or arrow.

It is very simple for me...

"You want it quick and painless, or slow and frighteningly excruciating?"

[mossy oak zuk]

just as one of you said the dogs are used to flush the deer and not catch the deer alive and maul it te death.most of the time when my dogs run a deer by me i dont even shoot it because i just love to hear them run,if it is illegal to hunt with dogs where you guys are at then you havent got to witness that.its pretty cool.this was a rare incidentand the deer was shot already by someone else and me and my cousin heard it(the dogs and deer fighting)and ran in and this is what we found.we took a pic(i always have a camera)and then we pulled the dogs of of the deerand took them out of the woods and back to the truck(not veryfar)and immediately shot the deer to end it.all of the meat was still good(for all tall wonderin about the bbq).the dogs in the pics are beagles which i prefer to hunt with because they are slow and theyNEVER catch and maul a deer.this was a freak thing that will probably never happen again but a wild pic nonetheless.oh and the guy with the turkey under his name that is a nice one.we have alot of turkeys around here and that is whats hunting is all about.

[mossy oak zuk]

just like one of you said the dogs just chase the deer and even when they run one by me i dont shoot it most of the time because i just like to hear the dogs run.if it is illegal to hunt with dogs where you guys are at then you havent been able to hear or see this,,its pretty cool.the dogs NEVER catch a live deer on the ground especially the beagles that you see in the pic.this deer was already shot and me and my cousin heard them fighting in the woods so we ran in there and this is what we found.i took a pic(i always have a camera)and then immediately broke it upand took the dogs back to the truck and shot the deer.all of the meat was still good for those of you wonderin about the bbq.they nener run the deer and suround it for us to walk up and shoot it and i would think that that was shitty myself.this is a rare happening but a wild pic nonetheless.the dogs are not trained to attack anything just run the scent of a deer and that is why we prefer to use beagles because they are slow you can hear them run longer.oh and the guy with the turkey under your name that is a nice one.we have a bunch of turkeys around here and that is huntin.

[SilverZuk]

OMG
I can’t believe what a flame-fest this caused.
They are hounds – bred to hunt
They are being used for what they were bred to do.
I don’t agree that using dogs is right in all conditions, but in the flat land sections NC, SC and VA I can see why people use them.
I never have used them, and shot dogs that ran deer, but I’m not going to criticize someone for doing it where it is legal.
It’s like it’s wanton waste.
I see bigger wastes everywhere. Shooting deer/elk for their antlers and bragging rights.
I have seen deer thrown over the road bank with nothing taking off but the antlers.
As long as you respect, revere, and eat it, I don’t have a problem with it.

You guys are sounding like a bunch of hippy liberal tree-huggin PETA sissys.

[FLEXYSAMMY]

Originally posted by mossy oak zuk
i thought any of yall that deer hunt with dogs might enjoythis

THERE IS NO SPORTSMANSHIP IN HUNTING DEER WITH DOGS!!!! YOUR FUCKING STATE SHOULD BE BITCH SLAPPED FOR LETTING YOU SO CALLED HUNTERS DO THAT. THAT IS RITE UP THERE WITH BATING DEER!!!!!!!! :mad3: :mad: :flipoff:

[Chancetribe]

Originally posted by DRM


Depends...

Special permits, pest situations, hunting on your own private land...

All deer, including doe, except for spotted fawn are legal in most of the counties in Alabama on public and private land.

Jeremy

[DRM]

Originally posted by mossy oak zuk
just as one of you said the dogs are used to flush the deer and not catch the deer alive and maul it te death.most of the time when my dogs run a deer by me i dont even shoot it because i just love to hear them run,if it is illegal to hunt with dogs where you guys are at then you havent got to witness that.its pretty cool.this was a rare incidentand the deer was shot already by someone else and me and my cousin heard it(the dogs and deer fighting)and ran in and this is what we found.we took a pic(i always have a camera)and then we pulled the dogs of of the deerand took them out of the woods and back to the truck(not veryfar)and immediately shot the deer to end it.all of the meat was still good(for all tall wonderin about the bbq).the dogs in the pics are beagles which i prefer to hunt with because they are slow and theyNEVER catch and maul a deer.this was a freak thing that will probably never happen again but a wild pic nonetheless.oh and the guy with the turkey under his name that is a nice one.we have alot of turkeys around here and that is whats hunting is all about.


Thanks for the follow-up setting the record straight...



Hmmm... I wonder if all the hateful people who jumped to conclusions will admit they are wrong? After all - they would all be ranting and raving for me to admit I was wrong if the shoe was on the other foot :p

[DRM]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY


THERE IS NO SPORTSMANSHIP IN HUNTING DEER WITH DOGS!!!! YOUR FUCKING STATE SHOULD BE BITCH SLAPPED FOR LETTING YOU SO CALLED HUNTERS DO THAT. THAT IS RITE UP THERE WITH BATING DEER!!!!!!!! :mad3: :mad: :flipoff:

FlexySamy - try reading the whole thread before you reply next time :laughing:

And what is this deer bating? How do you get close enough for a good swing? Do you swing low, or up like you are trying to put it over the fence? ;) :p

[Deep South Cruisers]

Originally posted by Chancetribe


All deer, including doe, except for spotted fawn are legal in most of the counties in Alabama on public and private land.

Jeremy


YUP, legal here and ALOT of people hunt this way. I always assumed that the meat would not be very edible because of the adreneline boost but I'm not sure of that.

I wouldn't hunt this way but alot of people choose to.

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by DRM




And what is this deer bating? How do you get close enough for a good swing? Do you swing low, or up like you are trying to put it over the fence? ;) :p

I wonder if your allowed to use cork filled bats:confused:

[schulze]

Originally posted by DRM
And what is this deer bating? How do you get close enough for a good swing? Do you swing low, or up like you are trying to put it over the fence? ;) :p

That would of course be "batting", and yes I know yada yada yada.
As for this whole thread, I don't hunt, but if I did I would think that it would be pointless to have dogs do what was supposed to be my "job".
Pip

[FLEXYSAMMY]

Originally posted by DRM


FlexySamy - try reading the whole thread before you reply next time :laughing:

And what is this deer bating? How do you get close enough for a good swing? Do you swing low, or up like you are trying to put it over the fence? ;) :p

Ok what is wrong with what I wrote except for my spelling witch i clearly state that I can not spell.:confused:

[FLEXYSAMMY]

Originally posted by schulze


That would of course be "batting", and yes I know yada yada yada.
As for this whole thread, I don't hunt, but if I did I would think that it would be pointless to have dogs do what was supposed to be my "job".
Pip

Thanks for the spell check........ :flipoff2:

[Dieselmh]

Deer are yummy, but bacon is better!


I have hunted many times, but never with dogs, so I honestly can't form an informed opinion.

I now return you to your bitching and moaning. :D

[DRM]

Originally posted by TN TJ


I wonder if your allowed to use cork filled bats:confused:


For snipe, or deer? I need to go check my manuals again....

[rkcrawl]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY


Ok what is wrong with what I wrote except for my spelling witch i clearly state that I can not spell.:confused:

Nothing.

This whole thread would not have been what it was if the original poster had included his explanation of what the picture was about when he started the thread. Then again, maybe it would as many of the comments relate to the use of dogs while hunting, period.

That being said, I don't hunt deer with dogs, never have, never will. If its legal and you want to do it, go for it, doesn't mean I have to like it.

And to DRM: If you ever hunted deer, you would or should already know how hunting with dogs is/would be different from "hiding behind a tree".

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY


THERE IS NO SPORTSMANSHIP IN HUNTING DEER WITH DOGS!!!! YOUR FUCKING STATE SHOULD BE BITCH SLAPPED FOR LETTING YOU SO CALLED HUNTERS DO THAT. THAT IS RITE UP THERE WITH BATING DEER!!!!!!!! :mad3: :mad: :flipoff:

They do that here in the south as well :D

[schulze]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY


Thanks for the spell check........ :flipoff2:

Ok I gotta admit I love when it gets silly like this :). I was correcting David, who was attempting to make a joke with your misspelling of "baiting".
And there was nothing wrong with your reply. It's actually allowed to respond to just one post and not a whole thread. ;)
Pip

[0ILBURNER]

Originally posted by ForestCam
They used dogs and the first trip out was the last time he ever went. He said that hunting deer with dogs was about the most unsportsmenlike thing he'd ever seen. You pretty much have a pack of dogs track down and surround the deer then you walk up and shoot the thing. That and he said the deer they took were only about as big as great danes.



Alright this is about the most ignorant thing I have ever read. When I was growing up, we hunted with dogs. Let me make it Perfectly clear, that when you use dogs to hunt with, the dogs do not chase down (catch) deer, nor are they able to corner a deer. A whitetail can easily clear a 6' tall chain-link fence (seen it personally) Any healthy deer can easily run 3 times as fast as a dog.
We generally used beagles - they have short legs and do not drive the deer hard - the deer are just pressured into moving. The dogs have a yappy bark, and you use 2-4 for a hunt. There are few hunts as exciting as hearing those beagles come from 2 miles away, then seeing that big buck step out into the area where you are posted & taking him down. The Vast majority of the time, the bucks aren't even being chased by the dogs - the dogs mostly run the does (females) and the bucks just move out from cover after hearing the dogs coming.

The original photo looks as though someone has shot a very young deer, and the dog is showing some blood lust - Not a good thing. The better deer dogs are bred to minimize this trait.

The main reason dog hunting has diminished is because there are fewer and fewer large blocks of land to hunt on, and once the dogs strike a trail off they go - sometimes for miles.

Those of you who shun the thought of hunting using dogs might consider that animals always have been used by humans in one respect or another to make work easier. Pulling carts with oxen. Plowing or riding horses. Anyone ever been rabbit hunting? I wanna see you try to do that without dogs! :)

[DRM]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY


Ok what is wrong with what I wrote except for my spelling witch i clearly state that I can not spell.:confused:

<-----This is it

<-----This is empty space

<-----This is the top of your head





;)

[DRM]

Originally posted by rkcrawl

And to DRM: If you ever hunted deer, you would or should already know how hunting with dogs is/would be different from "hiding behind a tree".

What makes you assume I have never hunted deer? Sheesh :shaking:

[DRM]

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Anyone ever been rabbit hunting? I wanna see you try to do that without dogs! :)


We used to do it all the time... had a cousin who used to chase them himself and catch them by hand :p

[DRM]

Originally posted by schulze


That would of course be "batting", and yes I know yada yada yada.


Now why did you go and bring pillows into the discussion? Are you some kind of freak? Do you have a comforter fetish? :confused:

[DRM]

Originally posted by rkcrawl
That being said, I don't hunt deer with dogs, never have, never will. If its legal and you want to do it, go for it, doesn't mean I have to like it.

And to DRM: If you ever hunted deer, you would or should already know how hunting with dogs is/would be different from "hiding behind a tree".


How odd...


You assume I have not hunted deer, then proceed to use that as a basis for me not being able to know what I am talking about when it comes to the difference...

Yet mere lines above that, you state you have not and NEVER WILL hunt deer with dogs, yet presume to be able to explain how it is so vastly different than other forms of deer hunting...


How very odd indeed :p

[0ILBURNER]

How about this for another deer hunting scenario:


You have a group of people walking through the woods, spread out ~50 feet apart, banging on pots & pans as they walk to scare up the deer. This is how the 'black folk' used to do it back in the day. :)



PS: DRM, unless your cousin was herding rabbits into a fence/corner, I am very sceptical that a human could run down a rabbit and catch it. I used to have a doberman who liked to catch rabbits, and it was all she could do to catch one - and she was Fast!

[rkcrawl]

Originally posted by DRM


How odd...


You assume I have not hunted deer, then proceed to use that as a basis for me not being able to know what I am talking about when it comes to the difference...

Yet mere lines above that, you state you have not and NEVER WILL hunt deer with dogs, yet presume to be able to explain how it is so vastly different than other forms of deer hunting...


How very odd indeed :p

I didn't assume anything, as I stated you would or should, allowing for the possibility that you have hunted but still don't know the difference or stubbornly, for the sake of this discussion refuse to acknowledge it.

Lets see, most folks know that dogs have a much keener sense of smell then humans. Most also know that a human can't physically chase down a deer in the woods. So dogs can scent a deer and run it to exhaustion. You can't and that is a FACT. :)

Just based on the above alone, you are going to have to get a lot closer to the deer, and spend more time in the woods, learning what their travel patterns are, where their feed lots and bedding areas are, etc. Or you can just go plop down behind any old tree and hope a deer comes along, then hope that the deer is up wind of you, and that you cleared all the brush/twigs under your feet so as to not to make any noise when you stop hiding...to shoot that deer that you were lucky enough to see.

I've been in the woods and have seen dogs chasing deer. Not my thing, I won't use them and I know enough to make the distinction.

So whats so odd? Fact is you don't need to have ever hunted and you should still be able to see the distinction.

[TEX]

Originally posted by Marissa Tomei

Do you think the deer cares what kinda pants the son-of-a-bitch who shot him was wearin'?

Sorry DRM, had to modify your post a bit :D


My thoughts? I'm against using dogs for deer. Reasons:

1 - Deer will run a LONG way. Anyone who's ever had a young coondog run deer knows that. This makes it impossible to confine your hunt to the area in which you have PERMISSION to hunt.

2 - Dogs are not selective. When I have a deer in my sights, I make a conscious decision to shoot, or not shoot. Perhaps it's a 2.5 year old buck that I'd like to have around in a couple of years when he's a REAL whopper. Maybe it's a 70lb yearling that isn't going to provide much meat. Or, maybe it's a deer that I want for my table. I have to make that decision & a dog can't do it for me.

3 - This type of hunting IS stressful for the deer. And anyone who's familiar with proper care of meat knows that a deer that runs for 4 miles before being brought down isn't going to taste quite right. You don't run your cattle before butchering, why run your deer?

4 - I love hound hunting. I think it's far more interesting than sitting in a stand all day freezing your ass off. But, I'm just not in favor of using hounds to run deer. It's a personal preference.



TEX

[mossy oak zuk]

hey tex what kind of coon dogs do you hunt

[SanDiegoCJ]

Hey "mossy oak zuk", I bet you never thought your post would
get this much response, huh. :flipoff2:

[TEX]

Originally posted by mossy oak zuk
hey tex what kind of coon dogs do you hunt

I don't go much & Dad's sold off his stock. But, we've mainly used Walkers. Over the years, there were some blueticks & a few black&tan's, but mostly Walkers.


TEX

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by SilverZuk
You guys are sounding like a bunch of hippy liberal tree-huggin PETA sissys.

:rolleyes: and there it is...the insult that's ALWAYS used when someone cant debate the issue. like i'm going to go "oh no!! someone from the INTERNET thinks i'm a "hippy liberal tree-huggin PETA sissy" the horror!! how ever will i sleep at night?! :shaking:

yeah...we're all supposed to be "hardcore" assholes that dont give two shits about anything but wheeling, right? :rolleyes:

[Franklin]

Here in NC it is legal to use dogs in certain counties, those usually with very rural developement and or swampy land. The dogs do not attack, kill or maim the deer. They simply pressure it into moving. A buck can kill dogs, which I have seen on 2 occasions. Beagles can in no possible way catch a deer unless it is sick, wounded, ect. In some places here there is simply no way to get to the deer so you have to bring the deer out to the hunters. That said I do not like hunting w/ dogs. Deer hunting to me is more sacred than simply waiting for the dogs to run one by and blast it with a 12ga. IMO there is no sport to that. You are shooting not hunting yet I do respect the past traditions of others when THEIR situation required them to hunt in different methods than my own. Dont cry ban that paticular action cause you do not agree with it.

As for the baiting issue. I plant over 100 acres at various sites in NC simply for the overall improvement of game populations. Yes I hunt over those areas. No different than hunting on a oak ridge w/ prolific mast production. I am improving the overall health of the turkeys, deer, rabbit ect and only take what we will use in the next year. The animals have a spirit and when you kill the animal, the responsibility of full utilization of that animal is of utmost importance. There is a part of me that mourns the death of any animal I kill. If you do not think about the animal are you a hunter or simply a killer?

[mossy oak zuk]

my cousin had bkueticks as well i really used to enjoy it but i havent been in a while.no way did i think that my pic would get this much attention or people who want to shoot me!

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by Franklin

As for the baiting issue. I plant over 100 acres at various sites in NC simply for the overall improvement of game populations. Yes I hunt over those areas.

To me planting 100 acres is far different than having a tree stand set up next to an automated corn feeder.

I understand flexysammy's frustration. Deer hunting in the northeast means longs days of tracking and stealth approaching deer that are naturally foraging. It's a skillfull (and lucky) hunter who bags a deer up there.

[Franklin]

Originally posted by Joe_W


To me planting 100 acres is far different than having a tree stand set up next to an automated corn feeder.


You are simply providing more nurishment than the land can provide. I have numerous feeders set up because nothing grows in the winter other than browse which provide miniscule nutrition. Feeders and planting do the same thing. Attract deer and improve health.

[mossy oak zuk]

hey franklin doy you ever plant that bio-logic stuff

[Belly Dragger]

Sorry guys didn't read the whole shiterie here but the jest is that the dogs are used to hunt for the owner, I assume.

The picture is disturbing for sure.

But I have to side with DRM on this one. (oh dear I've lost it)

I don't see how it's any different than a bunch of housewives waiting for fresh meat the butcher is cutting up that someone else killed for them.

*different meaning in spirit, the method is obviously a bit on the inhumane side verses a quick or unknown attack/death.

[Franklin]

Originally posted by mossy oak zuk
hey franklin doy you ever plant that bio-logic stuff

I used PowerPlant http://www.whitetailinstitute.com/products/power/ It works well and grows fairly fast. MAke sure you do ph test and you will probaly need lime. I need alot because of the pines that were there before we cleared it. Mostly I plant corn, soybeans, and alfalfa. Can write off seed not PowerPlant:D

[mossy oak zuk]

i think there is 2 hickory n.c's what are you near

[Just Some Asshole]

To hell with deer, I say we start hunting humans for sport. Just think about it...


[fuzzy dream sequence]Getting up early on a Saturday morning, putting on your camo's, getting your rifle ready, going out the local prison and finding you a good spot near the gate. Suddenly you hear the doors creak open just a bit, you get out your call and sound it..."free beer and pussy, free beer and pussy". You see him stick his head out for a peek. You can tell he's a little spooked because the prison tats around his neck are quivering. He takes a few steps out into the open and cautiously looks around, sniffing for the beer and pussy. That's when you get a good look at him through your scope, OH he's a mature buck criminal, looks like he's got a good set of scars on him too, He must have been in several times. You're shaking with excitement, you take a deep breath and hold it. You take aim and squeeze the trigger!! The crack of the round goes off and your heart skips. HE'S DOWN HE'S DOWN!! You safety your rifle and run up...CAREFUL you better poke him to make sure he's dead!. YUP, He's gonna look great over the mantle this Cristmas![/fuzzy dream sequence]


NOW THAT'S HUNTIN!

[MattS]

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole
To hell with deer, I say we start hunting humans for sport. Just think about it...


[fuzzy dream sequence]Getting up early on a Saturday morning, putting on your camo's, getting your rifle ready, going out the local prison and finding you a good spot near the gate. Suddenly you hear the doors creak open just a bit, you get out your call and sound it..."free beer and pussy, free beer and pussy". You see him stick his head out for a peek. You can tell he's a little spooked because the prison tats around his neck are quivering. He takes a few steps out into the open and cautiously looks around, sniffing for the beer and pussy. That's when you get a good look at him through your scope, OH he's a mature buck criminal, looks like he's got a good set of scars on him too, He must have been in several times. You're shaking with excitement, you take a deep breath and hold it. You take aim and squeeze the trigger!! The crack of the round goes off and your heart skips. HE'S DOWN HE'S DOWN!! You safety your rifle and run up...CAREFUL you better poke him to make sure he's dead!. YUP, He's gonna look great over the mantle this Cristmas![/fuzzy dream sequence]


NOW THAT'S HUNTIN!


:eek: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[Franklin]

Originally posted by mossy oak zuk
i think there is 2 hickory n.c's what are you near

Only one I know of. About a hour nw of charlotte. Between asheville and winston on I40.

[rkcrawl]

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole
To hell with deer, I say we start hunting humans for sport. Just think about it...


[fuzzy dream sequence]Getting up early on a Saturday morning, putting on your camo's, getting your rifle ready, going out the local prison and finding you a good spot near the gate. Suddenly you hear the doors creak open just a bit, you get out your call and sound it..."free beer and pussy, free beer and pussy". You see him stick his head out for a peek. You can tell he's a little spooked because the prison tats around his neck are quivering. He takes a few steps out into the open and cautiously looks around, sniffing for the beer and pussy. That's when you get a good look at him through your scope, OH he's a mature buck criminal, looks like he's got a good set of scars on him too, He must have been in several times. You're shaking with excitement, you take a deep breath and hold it. You take aim and squeeze the trigger!! The crack of the round goes off and your heart skips. HE'S DOWN HE'S DOWN!! You safety your rifle and run up...CAREFUL you better poke him to make sure he's dead!. YUP, He's gonna look great over the mantle this Cristmas![/fuzzy dream sequence]


NOW THAT'S HUNTIN!

Exactly what this thread needed! :D :D LMAO

[DRM]

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
PS: DRM, unless your cousin was herding rabbits into a fence/corner, I am very sceptical that a human could run down a rabbit and catch it. I used to have a doberman who liked to catch rabbits, and it was all she could do to catch one - and she was Fast!

First off - you should meet this cousin :D

Secondly - we are talking the rocky terrain we have here local. It is not that big a deal to have the rabbits run and hide in shallow rock crevices and overhangs... and if you are fast enough you *can* get a hand in these shallow recesses and grab hold of a rabbit...

Not that I think *I* could pull it off - but it is something I have seen *him* do with my own 2 eyes :eek: :laughing:

[DRM]

Originally posted by mudmaid


:rolleyes: and there it is...the insult that's ALWAYS used when someone cant debate the issue. like i'm going to go "oh no!! someone from the INTERNET thinks i'm a "hippy liberal tree-huggin PETA sissy" the horror!! how ever will i sleep at night?! :shaking:

yeah...we're all supposed to be "hardcore" assholes that dont give two shits about anything but wheeling, right? :rolleyes:

Give it a rest Mudmaid... I have flat out SHUT DOWN every "Debate" issue you have tried to bring up with this topic, leaving you with ONLY your "feelings" on the mattter. Not that your feelinsg on this are not valid for your own reasons, but don't try to act like you have proven some point based on hard facts and reasoning...


So far - the BEST arguement against hunting deer with dogs is what it may do to the meat... everything else I have seen posted here is little more than personal preference on the matter...

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by DRM


Give it a rest Mudmaid... I have flat out SHUT DOWN every "Debate" issue you have tried to bring up with this topic,

and your point? i never "debated" with you... so? :confused:

david, you dont intimate me, and i said early on i wasnt leaving this thread so deal with it.

as for JSA's nice fuzzy dream on human hunting...i'd be the first in line to buy my permit :flipoff2:

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally posted by DRM


Give it a rest Mudmaid... I have flat out SHUT DOWN every "Debate" issue you have tried to bring up with this topic, leaving you with ONLY your "feelings" on the mattter. Not that your feelinsg on this are not valid for your own reasons, but don't try to act like you have proven some point based on hard facts and reasoning...


So far - the BEST arguement against hunting deer with dogs is what it may do to the meat... everything else I have seen posted here is little more than personal preference on the matter...


Geeeesh, your ego just expanded some more, and that's something I never thought would be possible. :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

[Moose]

Mossy Oak Zuk

If it won't get you in to much trouble do you have any pictures that you can post of the black and tan dog in the back of the first picture. He looks a lot like my dog and I am trying to figure out what type of hound he is thanks.

Moose

[GRIDWNC]

So did we decide if it's legal, moral, and ethical to go on a Canned Snipe hunt with corked bats on the two days that the season is open?:confused: :flipoff2:

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC
So did we decide if it's legal, moral, and ethical to go on a Canned Snipe hunt with corked bats on the two days that the season is open?:confused: :flipoff2:

um... i think as long as you spray yourself with some snipe urine and wear a snipe coat it's legal, moral, and ethical. :flipoff2: ;)

[Just Some Asshole]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC
So did we decide if it's legal, moral, and ethical to go on a Canned Snipe hunt with corked bats on the two days that the season is open?:confused: :flipoff2:

Absoloutly, but since I won't poach, I have to switch over to smurf hunting in August and snarf hunting in February. Gotta keep small animal meat on the table ya know.:flipoff2:

[DRM]

Originally posted by mudmaid
and your point? i never "debated" with you... so? :confused:

david, you dont intimate me, and i said early on i wasnt leaving this thread so deal with it.

My "point" is simple...

You came in here with a purely emotional response, that lacks any kind of factual basis. Period.

YOU are the one that seems to have a problem "dealing with it", I am doing just fine :D

[DRM]

Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ



Geeeesh, your ego just expanded some more, and that's something I never thought would be possible. :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:


My ego?

Thanks for contributing to the thread Gary... you have nothign to offer excepty a dig on me - figures :shaking:


As usual - some of you can't back up your arguement, so you start in on me :laughing:

[FLEXYSAMMY]

Ok is it me or is DRM realyy fucked up? :flipoff2:

[DRM]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
Ok is it me or is DRM realyy fucked up? :flipoff2:


Doing just fine, but thanks for caring ;)

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by mudmaid


um... i think as long as you spray yourself with some snipe urine and wear a snipe coat it's legal, moral, and ethical. :flipoff2: ;)


Hmmmm, how many snipes would it take to get an ounce of urine? Does it have to be male/female urine? :confused:Is it a "rut" urine? Maybe I can get my cousin to bottle some of it up from the Snipe Mill and send it out! :D :p

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


Absoloutly, but since I won't poach, I have to switch over to smurf hunting in August and snarf hunting in February. Gotta keep small animal meat on the table ya know.:flipoff2:

I thought you went "snatch" hunting in February?:confused: :flipoff2:

[mudmaid]

Originally posted by DRM


My "point" is simple...

You came in here with a purely emotional response, that lacks any kind of factual basis. Period.

YOU are the one that seems to have a problem "dealing with it", I am doing just fine :D

:laughing: you are absoultely correct, my responses are based strictly on emotions. i dont need to have "factual basis" to say something isnt right *IMO*. ever heard the saying "that's just the way it is"? you and i both know that i dont have an argument. i just know *IMO* that the picture sucked, and in the heat of the moment i would have killed those dogs and shot at the owner. i realize my emotional weakness, that's why i dont go into the wilderness with a gun. :flipoff2:

have you ever considered becoming a life coach? :p :D

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally posted by DRM



My ego?

Thanks for contributing to the thread Gary... you have nothign to offer excepty a dig on me - figures :shaking:


As usual - some of you can't back up your arguement, so you start in on me :laughing:


No, it's just that you were acting like a total pompous ass and
I decided to call you on it. Don't like it................. TOUGH SH!T.:p

[TIE1ON]

Wow! That picture sucks!

[Franklin]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC


I thought you went "snatch" hunting in February?:confused: :flipoff2:

My favorite year round sport:)

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
Ok is it me or is DRM realyy fucked up? :flipoff2:

Well the fact that when he saw you misspell "baiting " and immediately came up with batting=comforters seemed rather :rainbow: to me but I guess thats what he and all the ladies at work discuss during the day. Maybe next week he'll show us his needlepoint :D

[LAME]

Is it unethical to go deer hunting with a 1 ton 4x4 and a brush guard?

:flipoff2:

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by LAME
Is it unethical to go deer hunting with a 1 ton 4x4 and a brush guard?

:flipoff2:


road kill is legal here:D

[Entropy]

Originally posted by LAME
Is it unethical to go deer hunting with a 1 ton 4x4 and a brush guard?

:flipoff2:

I think you gotta get a tag for roadkill deer in Illinois...

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC



Hmmmm, how many snipes would it take to get an ounce of urine? Does it have to be male/female urine? :confused:Is it a "rut" urine? Maybe I can get my cousin to bottle some of it up from the Snipe Mill and send it out! :D :p

what is the limit on snipe:confused: as many as one can fit in a bag?

[Joe_W]

Originally posted by TN TJ



road kill is legal here:D

Driving to TPP Friday we passed a roadkill deer that had obviousley been sliced in half...things that make you go "hmmmmm"

In Pa roadkill was sought after, if you took too long getting your pickup after hitting a deer in your car someone else would have grabbed it from you :)

[Moose]

Originally posted by LAME
Is it unethical to go deer hunting with a 1 ton 4x4 and a brush guard?

:flipoff2:

My fiance did it in a MR2, it has those flip up lights, the thing knocked the light backwards, guess who got to scoop out deer guts when he fixed it....

That was morally wrong, even if it was in season.

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by TN TJ


what is the limit on snipe:confused: as many as one can fit in a bag?

How big of a bag can you use? Does it HAVE to be a PAPER bag? Can you use instead a "sack"? Maybe a "Nut Sack" to BAIT them with before you swing your BAT?:confused: :flipoff2:

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by Moose


My fiance did it in a MR2,
That was morally wrong, even if it was in season.

ya but it was tenderized :flipoff2:

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by GRIDWNC


How big of a bag can you use? Does it HAVE to be a PAPER bag? Can you use instead a "sack"? Maybe a "Nut Sack" to BAIT them with before you swing your BAT?:confused: :flipoff2:

lets ask DRM he has the manual :D

[Just Some Asshole]

Originally posted by TN TJ


lets ask DRM he has the manual :D

Are you crazy???

Asking DRM a question is like asking an old person if they feel OK, you might get an answer but you'll regret it!:flipoff2:

[Franklin]

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


Asking DRM a question is like asking an old person if they feel OK, you might get an answer but you'll regret it!:flipoff2:

Anybody need a quote for a sig?

[TN TJ]

Originally posted by Just Some Asshole


Are you crazy???

Asking DRM a question is like asking an old person if they feel OK, you might get an answer but you'll regret it!:flipoff2:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[MattS]

Originally posted by Franklin
Anybody need a quote for a sig?

I'll take it! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[rkcrawl]

Originally posted by MattS


I'll take it! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Damnit! :laughing: Too slow again! :flipoff2:

[1RUSTYRIG]

Originally posted by ForestCam

Remember the DC sniper? They say that a few of the victims would have lived if they'd been using steel NATO rounds instead of copper jacketed lead hunting rounds since NATO rounds don't mushroom and they'll go right through you because for people that's more HUMANE but for an animal it's more HUMANE to try to kill with the first shot.


Sorry to rain on your parade, but military rounds are jacketed in steel and done so to penetrate body armor...No one gives two shits if it's humane when it's combat. If that were the case, they would never have allowed the claymore mine to come into existance.

[Sully]

Also the bullshit that was printed about the NATO rounds was that the jacketed rounds would "go clean through a person, and wound them, removing them from combat, but not killing them."

That is pure fiction, probably made up by that asshole NY Times reporter who fabricated all the other details in his stories about the sniper case.

[Sully]

And as for this thread... Here is my official two cents:

[GRIDWNC]

ahhhh return of the radioactive bacon!!!:D

Hey if a snipe were to eat the radioactive bacon would it then glow in the dark and be easier to hunt? Would that in turn be another form of baiting?:flipoff2:

[1RUSTYRIG]

Didn't everyone here read "Where the Red Fern Grows" when they were in grade school? Did anyone bitch about all the raccoons getting tossed by the dogs? I know I didn't....

[Moby]

Oh no! Snoopy is biting Bambie. Go get Lassie; he will know what to do.
You saw one blurry pic and wanted to “shoot the owner”
Buncha fags.

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by Moby
Oh no! Snoopy is biting Bambie. Go get Lassie; he will know what to do.
You saw one blurry pic and wanted to “shoot the owner”
Buncha fags.

Shad up Newbie!!!:flipoff2:

[Moby]

Oh no! now the green M&M is attacking me. Get Snoopy!

:flipoff2: ;)

[Entropy]

Originally posted by Moby
Oh no! Snoopy is biting Bambie. Go get Lassie; he will know what to do.
You saw one blurry pic and wanted to “shoot the owner”
Buncha fags.

Nu-uh! YOU'RE the fag.

Faggit

Queer

Homo

Queerbait

Buttlicker

:p

[Sully]

Originally posted by Moby
Oh no! Snoopy is biting Bambie. Go get Lassie; he will know what to do.
You saw one blurry pic and wanted to “shoot the owner”
Buncha fags.

STFU moron.

[GRIDWNC]

Originally posted by Moby
Oh no! now the green M&M is attacking me. Get Snoopy!

:flipoff2: ;)

I'd tell you to go Fawk yourself but inbreeding is illegal.:flipoff2:

[Haole]

Originally posted by DRM

I guess it is similarly unsportsmanlike for me to go to a catfish farm (small pond, LOTS of hungry fish) and catch some fish for a fish fry we have coming up? ;)

Nahh, I'd call that the way to catch fish for people who don't know what the hell there doing method.

[Haole]

Originally posted by DRM


FlexySamy - try reading the whole thread before you reply next time :laughing:

And what is this deer bating? How do you get close enough for a good swing? Do you swing low, or up like you are trying to put it over the fence? ;) :p

Don't know about deer, but been batting rabbits.

When I was a young 'un, my uncle took us rabbit hunting with bats. He walked up one fence line and my sis and I walked up the other one. About half way up the (500 ft) driveway we heard this whack and Uncle Mike yelled "Got one!"

I thought this was the coolest thing, so I told my buddy who got one too. Found out years later that my uncle found some fresh road kill and hid it on the fence line.

[Haole]

Originally posted by DRM



My ego?

Thanks for contributing to the thread Gary... you have nothign to offer excepty a dig on me - figures :shaking:


As usual - some of you can't back up your arguement, so you start in on me :laughing:

Getting a little defensive? By claiming to singlehandedly debunk the opposition, it certainly was a rather egocentric statement.

[DRM]

Originally posted by eurobob
Don't know about deer, but been batting rabbits.

When I was a young 'un, my uncle took us rabbit hunting with bats. He walked up one fence line and my sis and I walked up the other one. About half way up the (500 ft) driveway we heard this whack and Uncle Mike yelled "Got one!"

I thought this was the coolest thing, so I told my buddy who got one too. Found out years later that my uncle found some fresh road kill and hid it on the fence line.


So did he wear a gauntlet style glove and have the bat wear a hood like when they train falcons? Cause that is cool :)

And how does the bat retrieve the rabbit? Unless he is importing those huge vampire breeds, or maybe the fruit ones...

[DRM]

Originally posted by eurobob


Getting a little defensive? By claiming to singlehandedly debunk the opposition, it certainly was a rather egocentric statement.

Your arguement so poor you have to resort to it now too? :p

[DRM]

Originally posted by eurobob


Nahh, I'd call that the way to catch fish for people who don't know what the hell there doing method.


Funny... I call it a lot more fun way to gather 2 coolers full of catfish than buying it at the store, or having to spend several days/nights fishing natural waters :p

Besides - the kids love it :D