Front articulation [Archive]

erez

07-05-2003, 05:55 AM

In the rear of the truck we have achieved great results and it is now time to work on the front.

Since we are not allowed more than 2-3" lift in Israel, I don't see why I should change the front radius arms (I'm going to change the bushings to 1 shell bushings and not 2 like all the landrovers in Israel).

I raised the upper tower (I built a new one) by 4" and built a hollow cone that makes the spring return to its base (remember that I am not allowed to use a longer spring).

http://imgsrv.pic4u.co.il/c1bcd76fd2e823643b44f7b3d9730060020000.aspx

http://imgsrv.pic4u.co.il/c1bcd7c2bcb7a224034de9bb205fcc70020000.aspx

The results so far are not too bad, I used a 14" fox shock - do you think it would be more efficient to take the shock out of the spring, or does it not present a problem with this level of articulation?

Sam, what's up with your holey bushings? Are they out for sale already?

Thanks,

Erez

Serious One

07-05-2003, 09:40 AM

Hey Erez, lookin' good buddy!

One of the things I have been thinking about for front travel is to remove the shock outside of the spring, mounting it *behind* the spring. I have done this on my 80-inch coil sprung LR and it works quite effectively.

I was looking at it yesterday actually, playing with some LWB RR front shock towers. The LWB RR was air sprung, so the shocks were mounted in a different location than stock. In the LWB RR the shocks are mounted in front of the axle, but I think that we can effectively use a shorter travel shock to the same benefit if we mount it behind the axle.

One of the problems is the inner wheel well. It has those dimples that protrude outwards into the wheel well, reducing the usable space. I am thinking of removing my wheel wells and pounding out the rear most dimple with a sledge hammer and perhaps even cutting part of it out. We'll see where this all takes me.

In my case I am not necessarily looking for extreme travel, but rather am preparing the front suspension to conversion to air springs.

I am currently running the 2nd stiffest spring OME offers and they have sagged considerably since installation less than 3 weeks ago. On a recent trip I watched with great interest a custom Jeep (the Brute) go through all ranges of articulation. After being with the truck for 6 days and several hundred miles, I am definitely impressed with how his system works, and am finally getting around to seeing how well it can work in my CrewCab.

Take a look at the space behind the spring and tell me your thoughts on mounting the shock behind it.

Oh yeah, get the truck down off of that Hi-Lift before someone loses an eye. That kind of stuff scares the piss out of me. :eek:

Nice work.

Michael

PS You might want to play with drilling the bushings, I don't think Sam is quite ready for worldwide distribution (although we're all waiting patiently right???)


Pirate4x4.Com > Brand Specific Tech > Land Rover > Front articulation PDA : Front articulation erez 07-05-2003, 05:55 AM In the rear of the truck we have achieved great results and it is now time to work on the front. Since we are not allowed more than 2-3" lift in Israel, I don't see why I should change the front radius arms (I'm going to change the bushings to 1 shell bushings and not 2 like all the landrovers in Israel). I raised the upper tower (I built a new one) by 4" and built a hollow cone that makes the spring return to its base (remember that I am not allowed to use a longer spring). http://imgsrv.pic4u.co.il/c1bcd76fd2e823643b44f7b3d9730060020000.aspx http://imgsrv.pic4u.co.il/c1bcd7c2bcb7a224034de9bb205fcc70020000.aspx The results so far are not too bad, I used a 14" fox shock - do you think it would be more efficient to take the shock out of the spring, or does it not present a problem with this level of articulation? Sam, what's up with your holey bushings? Are they out for sale already? Thanks, Erez Serious One 07-05-2003, 09:40 AM Hey Erez, lookin' good buddy! One of the things I have been thinking about for front travel is to remove the shock outside of the spring, mounting it behind the spring. I have done this on my 80-inch coil sprung LR and it works quite effectively. I was looking at it yesterday actually, playing with some LWB RR front shock towers. The LWB RR was air sprung, so the shocks were mounted in a different location than stock. In the LWB RR the shocks are mounted in front of the axle, but I think that we can effectively use a shorter travel shock to the same benefit if we mount it behind the axle. One of the problems is the inner wheel well. It has those dimples that protrude outwards into the wheel well, reducing the usable space. I am thinking of removing my wheel wells and pounding out the rear most dimple with a sledge hammer and perhaps even cutting part of it out. We'll see where this all takes me. In my case I am not necessarily looking for extreme travel, but rather am preparing the front suspension to conversion to air springs. I am currently running the 2nd stiffest spring OME offers and they have sagged considerably since installation less than 3 weeks ago. On a recent trip I watched with great interest a custom Jeep (the Brute) go through all ranges of articulation. After being with the truck for 6 days and several hundred miles, I am definitely impressed with how his system works, and am finally getting around to seeing how well it can work in my CrewCab. Take a look at the space behind the spring and tell me your thoughts on mounting the shock behind it. Oh yeah, get the truck down off of that Hi-Lift before someone loses an eye. That kind of stuff scares the piss out of me. :eek: Nice work. Michael PS You might want to play with drilling the bushings, I don't think Sam is quite ready for worldwide distribution (although we're all waiting patiently right???)