: hummer wheels with full width axles


redruM
11-28-2001, 09:33 AM
anybody running full width axles and hummer wheels if so what tires and how wide is your axle, truck?

i am doing 71" dana 60's and want to run hummer wheels but am concerned about the width

Brian

Keith Strong
11-28-2001, 01:11 PM
What the hell did you get 71 inch 60's off?

redruM
11-28-2001, 08:39 PM
1998 Dodge 1 ton front 71" wms-wms front
1987 Ford E300 van 67" + 2" wheel spacers wms-wms rear

Brian

Keith Strong
11-29-2001, 07:28 AM
DAMN! Now thats full F'ing width :eek: I have a F250 D44 front (68 or 69 I think) with 15.10 wheels and 4.25 BS....My chit is wide, but it works killer on the trail. Sorry, dont know much about hummer wheels :(

ChrisPy
11-29-2001, 07:34 AM
only issue with hummer wheels is that they interfere with the steering arms. these can be "adjusted" by a competent welder.

BadAZYj
11-29-2001, 02:18 PM
So do hummer wheels clear the brakes?:confused:

Rock Taxi
11-29-2001, 02:43 PM
Yup, they clear the brakes just fine on a K30 front end......barely.

Ed

BadAZYj
11-29-2001, 03:00 PM
Thanks Rock taxi, Anyone know if they clear a Ford RC 60 brakes?:confused:

PYRO
11-30-2001, 05:36 PM
I needed to use 1" spacers to clear the brakes with a chevy d60, I think(?) ford calipers are bigger. With the 1" spacer, the wheel's inside bead is touching the stock steering arm, I cut the stock arms off and used Ants steering arms that move the tierod behind the axle and over the springs, do to the inward angle of these arms(keeping the correct Ackerman angle) , these arms clear the wheels.

PYRO
11-30-2001, 05:44 PM
One other thing, With this deep of backspacing, the scrub radius is really screwed up and the taller the tire the worse it gets. For a trail rig it's not that big a deal but If your going to do any street driving, you'll go through front tires fast.

BadAZYj
11-30-2001, 08:43 PM
What is a scrub radius? and how fast of wear are we talking? On average I put 150 street miles a week on my rig. How long do you suppose 38" TSL's would last? I know not very long but how much is it worsened by the scrub radius:question: Thanks:beer:

PYRO
11-30-2001, 11:51 PM
(taken from other sites)
Scrub radius is the distance at the road surface between the tire line and the SAI line extended downward through the steering axis. The line through the steering axis creates a pivot point around which the tire turns( an imaginary line down the center of the width of the tire and the imaginary line down the throught the King pins or ball joints). If these lines intersect at the road surface, a zero scrub radius would be present. When the intersection is below the surface of the road, this is positive scrub radius. Conversely, when the lines intersect above the road, negative scrub radius is present. The point where the steering axis (sai) line contacts the road is the fulcrum pivot point on which the tire is turned.
Squirm occurs when the scrub radius is at zero. When the pivot point is in the exact center of the tire footprint, this causes scrubbing action in opposite directions when the wheels are turned. Tire wear and some instability in corners is the result.
Negative scrub radius decreases torque steer. Suspensions usually have a slight positive scrub radius. The greater the scrub radius (positive or negative), the greater the steering effort and the more road shock and pivot binding that takes place. When the vehicle has been modified with offset wheels, larger tires, height adjustments and side to side camber differences, the scrub radius will be changed and the handling and stability of the vehicle will be affected.