Has any one had problems or have herd of any problems
running a two door cherokee without doors?

RE: body twist, popping out windows,etc.

Believe it or not the doors on a unibody construction are also supports to prevent warping and twisting.
I have seen several XJ's running without doors, maybe a few extra support braces would solve the risk of not having the doors on.
I think it is pretty cool to be able to have the doors off....
Hope it works for you.

I've run with no doors on my ZJ a few times, they still go back on just fine, didn't really notice any issues with any twisting of the unibody. I do have rockrails that tie in to the "frame rails" though so I'm sure that helped out a bit. It's nice to be able to wheel with them off, especially as how it's really hard for me to stick out and see where I'm going. I definately was able to see better, but it's kind of a hassle getting the doors on and off.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pa5c5a15d012789e567dda355e5d025d0/fbe7feaf.jpg

Originally posted by pirate
Believe it or not the doors on a unibody construction are also supports to prevent warping and twisting.
I have seen several XJ's running without doors, maybe a few extra support braces would solve the risk of not having the doors on.
I think it is pretty cool to be able to have the doors off....
Hope it works for you.

I am calling Bullshit...



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Ken C

No doors + no Cage + no frame = your cool!:rolleyes:

Dude not safe....!

yes you can take the doors off, and yes if you flop you can tweek your body so the doors dont fit, but no cage wheelin is not safe, no cage no doors is even worse....

if its less safe... why do it...

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ
No doors + no Cage + no frame = your cool!:rolleyes:

Dude not safe....!

yes you can take the doors off, and yes if you flop you can tweek your body so the doors dont fit, but no cage wheelin is not safe, no cage no doors is even worse....

if its less safe... why do it...

:shaking:
I didn't take my doors off to be "cool," I took them off to see better.

Besides, I thought if I flopped with the doors off it would be safer cuz I could just hop right out of my Jeep and not get hurt! :shaking:

And who gives a damn about a cage? I've got a friggin budget boost and 32's on my Jeep, if I'm on a trail where I'm that concerned about rolling, I don't belong on the trail to begin with!

Originally posted by ItsaJeepThing95
who gives a damn about a cage?

, I don't belong on the trail to begin with!


This pretty much is a sumary of your BS :rolleyes: nobody should ever go wheeling with out a cage anywhere.

If you're running 9's and 10's (on the Colorado 10 pt system) than yeah, you probably should have a cage. I usually run 6's and 7's and ventured onto ONE 8 and that was a little out of my league. If I roll on a 6 or 7, it's my own damn fault for doing something I shouldn't be doing.

And if you can figure out how to get a cage on a ZJ, still retain the operation of all 4 doors, and have it look halfway presentable, let me know, until then :flipoff2:

I have never been anywhere that i could not open the doors. So i would say it would not matter. I take lots of pics, so i leave it articulated up and get out. I have a roll cage now. I would say it would make it very unsafe if it did ever flip without the door to suport the roof. I am planing on taking my doors off soon, but i am also going to put a cross brace on my roll bar, across where the door would be. Just incase i roll on a rock or get hit on the street.

Yeah, two little pins and a latch on each door is what keeps the entire XJ uniframe from falling apart and twisting. :rolleyes:

And while it is unsafe to wheel without a cage, take a chance you pussies.

Originally posted by BRUISER


I am calling Bullshit...
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Ken C

Bruiser is right, I have not heard of an incident where the doors wouldn't fit back on after hard wheeling. You can also search at WWW.naxja.org.

I have heard of Sammie's having broblems with tweaking the door openings and they use a frame.

Some ideas that you might consider:

Build tube doors...to replace the stockers.

Stiffen the chassis... for an idea check this site (http://www.tandjperformance.com)

Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ
if its less safe... why do it...

Pucker Factor My friend... hehe

isnt running an XJ with no doors..just admiting you bought the wrong Jeep?:flipoff2:

My brother has been running no doors on his cherokee for probably over a year now and done some pretty hard core wheeling with no effects what so ever. Here is a pic with tube doors on. Sorry for the poser and out of date pics but all i have right now. More pictures are HERE (http://community.webshots.com/user/jeepin4jesus11)

http://carolinarockshop.com/art/XJTD/wholejeep.jpg

http://carolinarockshop.com/art/XJTD/jeepside.jpg

Believe it or not the doors on a unibody construction are also supports to prevent warping and twisting

I'm calling bullshit too.


dude, this just aint so on a cherokee.......

if you ever cut into your jeep with a sawzall and some other nazi war doctor tools, you will see for yourself first hand why doors don't add shit to the strength of an xj........

additionally, I think its stupid to wheel hardcore in an xj without an adequate cage.......and this little opinion comes from first-hand experience...........i'm not making shit up.

Originally posted by Beezil


I'm calling bullshit too.


dude, this just aint so on a cherokee.......

if you ever cut into your jeep with a sawzall and some other nazi war doctor tools, you will see for yourself first hand why doors don't add shit to the strength of an xj........

additionally, I think its stupid to wheel hardcore in an xj without an adequate cage.......and this little opinion comes from first-hand experience...........i'm not making shit up.

Listen to him ;) :p

*!*

Im calling bullshit on this whole thread

How does one take doors off a unibody? Any sawzall involved? I don't own a LWB, but would be curoius as to what needs to be done to take em off....

Originally posted by Otto Man
How does one take doors off a unibody? Any sawzall involved? I don't own a LWB, but would be curoius as to what needs to be done to take em off....

Pull the pins and disconnect the wires for the power locks, windows etc..., then unbolt the torx bolts. Its easy :flipoff2:

this thread totally sucks! who the hell cares, if he wants to take his doors off let him. i honestly don't believe that doors add structural integrity, but they do make it safer... in some cases. i'll explain, in some rollovers, doors could save your life, but in some rollovers (violent ones), it is not going to matter... you're dead. like the dude with the zj said, if you don't run trails where you need a cage, why have one. that is true in a way, but you won't know what trails you should and shouldn't run until you roll and crack your noggin open or kill your loved ones. it all just depends on what matters to you. i suggest a cage, even though i don't have one, but i'm not going to wheel my jeep till i have my cage. my life is more important than the money and time it takes to build a cage.
just thoughts,
nate

flexyutxj,

I can back you up about the "little safer" thing......at least, I can say, that SOMETHING needs to go in the opening.....we were over n attica, and one of the guys in our club was running purgatory, and rolled off of an obstacle and into a smallish boulder on the passenger side......luckily, for his passenger, the driver was smart enough to construct a tube that went diagonally across the opening (where the doors once were) or else, that passenger would have a shattered hip.......

I agree with the last stuff said. No dors would allow rocks or what not to enter the cab.

I doubt the doors will add that much more strength in a roll since they are not structurly part of the unibody. A window frame will not provide much resitance to keep the roof from collapsing.

beez, i totally agree with the bar accross the opening. just think if you rolled on your side and a huge old rock fit perfectly into the opening. that would suck balls to be crushed by the weight of your own jeep. but, i think that a bar or two would do the job better than the stock doors. if you rolled over on a rock like that with no cage and your doors on, you just might be eating the door-paneling for lunch. i know that i put a lot of the weight of my jeep on my driverside door when i was sliding into this barricade, and i dented it in sooooo far and i barely even touched it. it wasn't like i slammed into it, it was more like it slowly crushed the door.
-nate

I stand corrected on the integrity of the door strength to the unibody.
I bow to the knowledge placed forth on this thread.

My lords....

I'll be waiting in the car in case anyone needs to go to 7-Eleven.

Originally posted by pirate
I'll be waiting in the car in case anyone needs to go to 7-Eleven.

will you take me to the mall or harmons. you can fit groceries in the back right?
haha good job at swallowing your pride. good man.

-nate

Ive been running mine w/o doors or a hatch for a whille now no problems :p Easy way to remove doors saw-zaw. Easy way to remove hatch saw-zaw. If you wheel an XJ hard your uni-body is allready bent so just go ahead and do it :flipoff2: and dude build a cage, who cares if you run easy trails! You will be the guy that was going down the small hill but his brakes went out, or his tire blew out, and he rolled didnt have a cage and died :( dont be that guy!!!!!!!!!!!!

good point man.
when i was taking my doors off, i tried to use a torx bit on the hinges, and it stripped one so i got out my angle grinder and off they went. same thing with the hatch.
haha