: Sick puppy


NotQuiteSane
07-08-2003, 03:03 PM
I just took my puppy to the vet, he's spewing at both ends. gotta head back in an hour, hopefully he can come home with me.

damm, i'm stressing out here

NQS

rockwrangler
07-08-2003, 03:11 PM
Man that don't sound good HOPE it's not Parvo.
My Golden had 8 pup's in Jan. and one of them that we sold wound up with parvo 4 Days after he left Mom.
He made it but the VET bill's for the new owners was above $2K
and he was at the Vets for almost 2 weeks.

GOOD LUCK AND BEST WISHES!!

Edit: And I spent about $500 to have the rest that I still had Tested just in case. And they all came back CLEAN:D

NotQuiteSane
07-08-2003, 05:01 PM
Well, the doc is keeping him overnight for test and observation, she doesn't think it's parvo, but wants to be sure.

i have shit going wrong all over, i don't need this. and i can't afford a parvo bill. but i can't lose him either.

surlynkid
07-08-2003, 06:13 PM
she is not sure if it is parvo???? there is a 5 minute test. get a new vet. what color is the dog? black and tan dogs (rotts, dachsunds, dobies, etc) have a VERY hard time beating parvo.

NotQuiteSane
07-08-2003, 08:07 PM
the doc is trying to avoid blood work, she knows i can't afford it. tomorrow we discuss blood test if there's been no change.

NQS

NotQuiteSane
07-08-2003, 08:08 PM
oh, he's black with "dirty" brown on head & feet, aqnd a white cross on his chest..

NQS

WheelingPiazza
07-08-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by surlynkid
she is not sure if it is parvo???? there is a 5 minute test. get a new vet. what color is the dog? black and tan dogs (rotts, dachsunds, dobies, etc) have a VERY hard time beating parvo.


Parvo effects all dogs, regardless of color, All dogs have a tough time beating parvo but it can be done if its caught early enough.

At this stage, your only answer is blood work..

Rots, Dobies and the like dogs are more prone to get parvo because of weak immune systems from over breading. Has nothing todo with color. Also over inoculations plays a large part in the dog getting viruses as well.

Please keep us up to date..

NotQuiteSane
07-09-2003, 11:09 AM
Kernal has parvo. my vet isn't set up for parvo, due to renovations. he's being moved today to another vet.

WheelingPiazza
07-09-2003, 11:12 AM
Sorry to hear, IT does sound like you caught it early on..

Let us know what the out come is..

NotQuiteSane
07-09-2003, 02:26 PM
well, he's at the other vet's. I was told there he has an 80% chance of making it, so...

hopefully he'll be home to me in a week

found his pic:

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~nqs/images/Kernelyard.jpg

close up, trying to climb my leg:

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~nqs/images/Kernel.jpg

NQS

GRIDWNC
07-09-2003, 03:04 PM
If that little one has made it this far, you stand a good chance of beating this. Puppies tend to be less able to handle it in the early on stages. I think your chances are high. :) Good luck!

NotQuiteSane
07-10-2003, 08:15 AM
this mornings update:

Kernel continued with vommiting and the shits last night, they have him on anti-biotics and fluids.

the little bit of good news is his tempature is down to 102

NQS

rockwrangler
07-10-2003, 08:38 AM
Hope for the BEST for Him and you !!

Have you started disinfecting your yard and any where he might have been. Inside the house, your car or truck bed Ect. the bad thing about parvo is that it can linger for a very long time and when your dog comes back home from the Vet he can get it agian.
And you don't want that....

The other thing is that you should limit where you take a pup until he has all his shots. Public dog areas and some parks are not the place to take a Pup.

Make shure you pic up all the dog poop in your yard and spray the entire yard with 50% bleach/water mix and any where else he goes or has been. Or ask your vet what you should do for the dogs area to keep this from happening agian.

NotQuiteSane
07-10-2003, 08:51 AM
i haven't started disinfecting the area yet. the other pups are in a cleaned quarentined area. so far they show no symptons, but they'll be checked.

got the bleach waiting.

NQS

APRILRAZZ
07-10-2003, 09:04 AM
Good luck. Hope the littel guy pulls through:) Had a puppy a few years ago who came from the shelter with it. She was about 4 months old. took her to the vet and got her started on the meds. Caught it early so we kept her in the bathroom untill she was better. Was quiet in there and easy to clean up after.

WheelingPiazza
07-10-2003, 09:08 AM
Not only do you want to spray the yard, but also do a really good cleaning in the house, Throw all the bowls and toys away and get some stainless ones.

Clean the crates out with bleach and water..

NotQuiteSane
07-10-2003, 03:08 PM
as of a minute ago, there was no change. he's no worse, but he's still in bad shape

NotQuiteSane
07-10-2003, 04:53 PM
sent by a freind:

Parvo FAQs

Compiled from a variety of Internet resources
by Moc Klinkam
© Moc Klinkam




Parvovirus
What are the symptoms of Parvo?
Transmission of the Parvo virus
Vaccination against Parvo
Will my dog die of Parvo?
Susceptible breeds
Preventing the spread of Parvo
How is Parvo treated?
What if I have Parvo in my home?
Online References

Parvovirus
Parvovirus is a viral disease of dogs. It affects puppies much more frequently than it affects adult dogs. The virus likes to grow in rapidly dividing cells. The intestinal lining has the biggest concentration of rapidly dividing cells in a puppy's body. The virus attacks and kills these cells, causing diarrhea (often bloody), depression and suppression of white blood cells -- which come from another group of rapidly dividing cells. In very young puppies it can infect the heart muscle and lead to "sudden" death.


Parvovirus Vaccination
Parvovirus is probably the most common viral illness of dogs at the present time. It is much more common in puppies than it is in adult dogs. It can be very hard to successfully vaccinate a puppy for this disease because the antibody protection the puppy acquires from its mother can interfere with vaccination. Many vets recommend vaccinating puppies every three to four weeks for this virus starting at 6 weeks of age and continuing until they are at least 16 weeks of age and preferably 20 weeks of age. It is possible that this vaccine confers lifelong immunity once it does work but most veterinarians continue to recommend yearly vaccination for it. It seems prudent to at least get the vaccination at one year of age. Since it is combined with the other vaccines it is often easier just to give it yearly with them.


What are the symptoms of Parvo?
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Parvo" is a virus that attacks the lining of the digestive system. It causes dogs and puppies to not be able to absorb nutrients or liquids. Puppies are especially prone to it because they have an immature immune system. When dogs and puppies contract parvo, they often have diarrhea, vomiting and lethargy. Usually they stop eating and develop a bloody, foul-smelling, liquid stool.

Symptoms usually begin with a high fever, lethargy, depression, and loss of appetite. Secondary symptoms appear as severe gastrointestinal distress, such as vomiting and bloody diarrhea. In many cases, dehydration, shock, and death follow.

Parvovirus is characterized by severe, bloody diarrhea and vomiting, high fever and lethargy. The diarrhea is particularly foul smelling and is sometimes yellow in color. Parvo can also attack a dog's heart causing congestive heart failure. This complication can occur months or years after an apparent recovery from the intestinal form of the disease. Puppies who survive parvo infection usually remain somewhat un-healthy and weak for life.


How is Parvo transmitted?
Canine parvovirus is carried by dogs. Adult dogs may be infected carriers without showing any clinical signs. Dogs with the typical diarrhea that parvovirus causes shed the virus as well. It can last a long time in the environment, perhaps as long as 9 months or longer.

Generally, it takes 7-10 days from the time of exposure for dogs and puppies to start showing symptoms and to test positive for parvo.

Parvo is highly contagious to unprotected dogs, and the virus can remain infectious in ground contaminated with fecal material for five months or more if conditions are favorable. Extremely hardy, most disinfectants cannot kill the virus, however chlorine bleach is the most effective and inexpensive agent that works, and is commonly used by veterinarians.

The ease with which infection with Parvo can occur in any unvaccinated dog must be stressed. The virus is extremely hardy in the environment. Withstanding wide temperature fluctuations and most cleaning agents. Parvo can be brought home to your dog on shoes, hands and even car tires. It can live for many months outside the animal. Any areas that are thought to be contaminated with parvo should be thoroughly washed with chlorine bleach diluted 1 ounce per quart of water.

Dogs and puppies can contract parvo even if they never leave their yards. Parvo virus, despite what you might hear, is NOT an airborne virus. It is excreted in the feces of infected dogs, and if someone -- human, dog, bird, etc. -- steps in (or otherwise comes in contact with) the excrement, the possibility for contamination is great. Some people speculate that birds invading a dog's food dish can deposit the parvovirus there. If you think you may have come in contact with parvovirus, a strong solution of bleach and water does kill the virus, so you can wash your shoes and clothes, even your hands with it, to reduce the risk of infecting your dog.

Rest assured that parvovirus is specific to dogs alone and cannot be transmitted to humans or other pets of a different species, such as cats.


How is Parvo treated?
Without intense treatment, the victims of parvo die of dehydration. Treatment generally consists of IV or sub-cutaneous fluids and antibiotics. There is no cure. Veterinarians can only treat the symptoms palliatively, and try to keep the dog alive by preventing dehydration and loss of proteins. As there is no cure for any virus, treatment for parvo is mostly that of supporting the different systems in the body during the course of the disease. This includes giving fluids, regulating electrolyte levels, controlling body temperature and giving blood transfusions when necessary.

Dogs who have survived parvo can get it again. In the case of some puppies, a puppy testing negative for Parvo one day could succumb to the virus within a matter of days. It strikes fast and without mercy. Dr. Cathy Priddle has warned that sulfa drugs have been known to cause dehydration in dogs, suggesting that animals infected with parvovirus should not be given sulfa drugs.

You may also consult a homeopathic or naturopathic veterinarian for alternative Parvo treatments. There are some natural and homeopathic treatments for Parvo on the retail market. Amber Technology offers Parvaid, an all natural herbal formula that the manufacturer claims has helped some animals overcome Parvo.

Will my dog die if he gets Parvo?
This is a very serious disease. Some puppies infected with parvovirus will die despite prompt and adequate treatment. While no extremely accurate statistics are available, a good guess is probably that 80% of puppies treated for parvovirus will live. Without treatment, probably 80% or more of the infected puppies would die.

Due to the high death rate, parvovirus gets a lot of free publicity. Many people just assume that any case of diarrhea in a dog is from parvovirus. This is not true. There are a lot of other diseases and disorders that lead to diarrhea. If you have a puppy, don't take any chances. Have your puppy examined by your vet if diarrhea is a factor in any disease. It is better to be safe than to be sorry.

If your dog becomes infected with parvovirus, he has about a 50-50 chance of survival. If he makes it through the first three to four days, he will usually make a rapid recovery, and be back on his feet within a week. It is vital, however, that he receives supportive therapy immediately. It must be stressed that this is not a bad case of doggy flu; without medical treatment, most puppies die.


Are some breeds more susceptible than others?
For some reason, Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, and other black and tan breeds are especially prone to Parvo, and seem to succumb to parvo faster and with less chance of recovery than any other breed. If you have one of these breeds, it's even more important to make certain your puppy or dog gets immunized properly. But these breeds are not alone -- the Parvovirus can affect all breeds.


How do I prevent the spread of Parvo?
The surest way to avoid parvo infection in your dog is to adhere to the recommended vaccination schedule which begins when puppies are 6-8 weeks of age. Puppies should not be allowed to socialize with other dogs or frequent areas where other dogs have been until 2 weeks after they have had their last vaccination. Immunization for parvo is usually included in your dog's distemper vaccine. This shot gives protection against several potentially fatal canine diseases all at the same time.

If your pet becomes infected, please keep in mind that dogs with parvo shed the virus in their feces and are extremely contagious to other dogs. Follow these recommendations to help prevent the spread of this disease.


Keep the infected dog isolated from all other dogs for at least one month after full recovery.

Clean up all the dog's stools in your yard.

Use a 1:30 ratio of chlorine bleach and water to clean food and water bowls (4 oz. in 1 gallon of water). Wash any bedding the dog has been in contact with in this same bleach solution and hot water. You should also try to disinfect any other areas that the dog has been, like linoleum, concrete kennels, crates, etc.

If you have any other dogs that are two years old or younger, or who have never been vaccinated for parvo, please bring them in for a booster as soon as possible.

Be sure to feed your dog a bland diet, such as Canine Prescription i/d, until he is fully recovered. When switching back to his normal diet, mix the regular food with the i/d for 2-3 days to help your pet gradually adjust to the change.


What If I've got Parvo in my home?
If you have had parvo in your home, use a strong bleach/water solution to kill it. Soak the yard with it -- better to kill the grass than your next dog! Be careful using it on carpets and fabrics, though. Parvo can live up to 6 months or so in your home or yard. Before you bring home another dog, be sure it has a strong immunity to parvo. You can have a veterinarian draw blood and run a titre to find out how well your prospective dog will fare in a parvo-infected environment. Adult dogs generally have a higher resistance than puppies do, but they need to be kept current on their vaccines. If in doubt, have your vet do the titre.



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Recommended reading:


What You Should Know About Canine Parvovirus Infection
Online resources included in this compilation:


Encyclopedia of Canine Veterinary Medical Information
Encyclopedia of Canine Veterinary Medical Information
Electronic Library Encyclopedia
Puppies Need Extra Protection Against Canine Parvovirus

k5kc
07-10-2003, 05:42 PM
my other part-time job, i am a kennel manager/vet assistent and we deal with PARVO a lot. we have a section on the other side of the office that is always sanitzed for the "special" dogs. we have to bleach down before entering and after leaving, good thing he is a pup, because most dogs 3 years and older don't make it.

Side story: i have adopted three dog, and one is the luckiest dog alive, he has survived 2 car crashes breaking his hips and legs, one fire with 2nd degree burns, and recently eat 65 advil pills, where he was in critical condition with a 30% chance to live. recent owner couldn't pay bills, so i adopted him while we put him through emergency surgery. today he looks perfectly normal, and supriseingly he can run very fast.

hope your pup is ok and don't wait to start bleaching, better know than possibly transffering it.

NotQuiteSane
07-11-2003, 08:31 AM
just called, the doc hadn't taken vitals yet. but she said he did not vomit or have the runs last night. his outward apperance is still year bad, but this is a good sign

NQS

Keith Strong
07-11-2003, 11:12 AM
:fingerscrossed: I hope all is ok.....she is CUUUUTE!

NotQuiteSane
07-11-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Keith Strong
:fingerscrossed: I hope all is ok.....she is CUUUUTE!

he only vomited a little today, and no runs. doc says he looks a bit more cheerful too, but he's not in the clear yet

NQS

Bill Collins
07-11-2003, 09:09 PM
you can save a pup from parvo cheaply most of the time at home,it takes pedalite for babies and giving it to them every 30min.until they come out of it,if it comes back up give some right again,you can inject it too and it keeps them hydrated.i have saved some and lost some like this.

also this is info i learned from my vet.and he is a breeder and trainer of world champion coon hounds...

NotQuiteSane
07-12-2003, 09:43 AM
Kernel had no problems overnight, he ate some food this morning and is looking cheerful. If he can keep it down, i may get to take him home tonight

NQS

Kitty Cat
07-12-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
Kernel had no problems overnight, he ate some food this morning and is looking cheerful. If he can keep it down, i may get to take him home tonight

NQS

Thats good news I'll keep my fingers crossed that you will be able to take puppy home today :)

does puppy have a name?

YellowSub1962
07-12-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Kitty Cat

does puppy have a name?


Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
Kernel had no problems overnight, he ate some food this morning and is looking cheerful. If he can keep it down, i may get to take him home tonight



:usa:

NotQuiteSane
07-12-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Kitty Cat


Thats good news I'll keep my fingers crossed that you will be able to take puppy home today :)

does puppy have a name?


"Kernel"

he's the puppy kernel 0.4.12 :D

tommow the .13 patch will be intro'd :flipoff2:

Kitty Cat
07-12-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane





he's the puppy kernel 0.4.12 :D

tommow the .13 patch will be intro'd :flipoff2:

I have no clue what this means.

NotQuiteSane
07-12-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Kitty Cat


I have no clue what this means.

he's 4 months, 12 days old.

his name is a computer term.

if you were a geek, you'd get the joke

NotQuiteSane
07-12-2003, 11:44 AM
great news. my little guy is coming home

Kitty Cat
07-12-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
great news. my little guy is coming home


:bounce: WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LandCroozer
07-12-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
great news. my little guy is coming home

:bounce:

-t

NotQuiteSane
07-12-2003, 10:13 PM
Kernel is in my lap as i type this. he's acting tired, but he does respond to stimuli. he ate some more food and drank about a cup of water, with another half cup in his bowl no notgiceable troubles so far.

i need to buy some shampoo to give him a bath, any suggestions? poor guy stinks.

GRIDWNC
07-12-2003, 11:04 PM
:bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce2: :D :D :D :D

I'm jealous, but very happy for you. Damn you for bringin tears to my eyes. Wish I had that luck when my dog was sick.

This is good news!!:)

NotQuiteSane
07-13-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by GRIDWNC
Wish I had that luck when my dog was sick.

I wish we all had that luck. no matter how much i dislike a person, I won't wish ill will on their pets.

if a pet is bad it's the fault of the owner, not the pet.

btw, Kernel is parked under the desk now, sleeping. we wel ou earlier and he had about 4 feet of line to run around from the front porch. i'm not taking him further until i'm sure he's ok

NQS

APRILRAZZ
07-13-2003, 12:20 PM
:bounce: :bounce2:
Great news!!

rockwrangler
07-13-2003, 01:23 PM
:bounce2: :bounce: Very Glad to here he is home and getting better Hope he lives to a ripe old age!!!
CONGRADS!!!

Curtis
07-13-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by NotQuiteSane
Kernel is in my lap as i type this. he's acting tired, but he does respond to stimuli. he ate some more food and drank about a cup of water, with another half cup in his bowl no notgiceable troubles so far.

i need to buy some shampoo to give him a bath, any suggestions? poor guy stinks.

Good to hear he's home. Get some Johnson & Johnson's Baby Shampoo to wash him.

YellowSub1962
07-13-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Curtis


Good to hear he's home. Get some Johnson & Johnson's Baby Shampoo to wash him.


thats ok in a pinch, like if you can't get to the store and have it already, but if you have to go out you might as well buy something made for a dog so the PH balance is right...and make sure its a "puppy" shampoo so it's not too strong...


:usa: